Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Tom Shines said:
Cant read the article … the timing of this seems unusual .. wouldn’t they want to get a look at him first ? unless another club has made him an offer
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The Wests Tigers have offered Adam Doueihi a one-year extension at minimum wage as the utility moves closer to a return from injury over the next six weeks.

Tigers chief executive Shane Richardson last week tabled Doueihi an offer for about $150,000 for next season.

Doueihi, who is coming off three ACL injuries, has opted against taking up the Tigers’ offer and will instead try to prove he is worth more than the club are willing to offer through his performances in the back half of the year.

He recently flew to Melbourne and was granted clearance to begin full contact training with an eye to returning in round 16-17.
 
magpies forever said:
He won't come. Is yet another player from successful club and career that only wants easy life and success. It annoys me that you rarely see giving back to the lesser teams as good players start to peak and be replaced in glamour clubs and don't think / want to help the lesser clubs. Easy life.
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Why is there a requirement that you give back to lesser clubs in the twilight of your career ? Those clubs would cut you just as quickly as glamour clubs if someone else came along. They are professional sportsmen.
 
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AceofSpades said:
So do we get rid of our Juniors and shy away from development in order to win now?
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No, we do have some good juniors coming through but some will just not make it IMO.
Benji and company to make the call on who we get and who we release.
And they seem to be making some good logical choices on where we need to be IMO.
 
Tom Shines said:
I have said recently this attacking style they play is relatively easy to gameplan against … particularly when the Tigers have a number of players with poor discipline and respond to the “niggle”…

Just give them nothing back and eventually they will make mistakes and lose their cool …they are a team that can’t win this grinding style …
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I heard some of the comments from the Knights coach before the last game that the Tigers attack differently to most of the other sides, with lots of shape and lots of passes. I thought that was a weird comment but he clearly knows a hell of a lot more about it than me
 
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teddy23 said:
I think it’s a fair deal it’s a 1 year contract. He has the ability to showcase whether or not he’s worth more and get his market value up the following year. If he comes back both this (good coin) and next year and plays good football following 2025 who’s to say he can’t command 600-700k at another club.
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Of course its fair. He has sat out most of this season (and last) on $600k plus. We haven't received anywhere near fair value from Adam.
 
rozelle_rudy said:
Full article:

The Wests Tigers have offered Adam Doueihi a one-year extension at minimum wage as the utility moves closer to a return from injury over the next six weeks.

Tigers chief executive Shane Richardson last week tabled Doueihi an offer for about $150,000 for next season.

Doueihi, who is coming off three ACL injuries, has opted against taking up the Tigers’ offer and will instead try to prove he is worth more than the club are willing to offer through his performances in the back half of the year.

He recently flew to Melbourne and was granted clearance to begin full contact training with an eye to returning in round 16-17.
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Tell him to piss off now. He’s probably been copping 700k to do nothing and obviously thinks he owes the club nothing. Play on 150k next year so the club can actually improve the squad. Just downgraded him to Muppet.
 
Wearyfan22 said:
I heard some of the comments from the Knights coach before the last game that the Tigers attack differently to most of the other sides, with lots of shape and lots of passes. I thought that was a weird comment but he clearly knows a hell of a lot more about it than me
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Who knows what the the Knights coach motives are for that comment.. he can’t be praising a team that only scores 14 points a game
 
Buttface said:
“a much higher ceiling” ?
Naden’s last game was straight out of the Douhie handbook, 5 missed tackles, couple of errors, and look good with the ball in hand but get bundled into touch at least once.
Although Faataape may not be as flashy with the ball in hand, I’d argue his D makes the other two look like lazy bums. I know who I’d keep if I had to pick one.
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That is exactly the position we're in.

We cannot re-sign both Faatape and Doueihi, whilst also maintaining the contracts of Toa, Naden and Kepaoa. All 5 are fringe first graders. We only have 2 spots left and are in desperate need of another NRL calibre outside back, another second rower, probably another prop...

We just can't afford to have so many players in a top 30 who are backups, as well as kids who actually are our backups.

Realistically heading into 2025 we can keep no more than 1-2 of Naden, Toa, Staines, Kepaoa, Faatape and Doueihi. That's if we want to be competitive.

I would much rather see all 5 leave and have a crack with new players who might be NRL standard. All of the above are not.
 
balmain boy said:
That is exactly the position we're in.

We cannot re-sign both Faatape and Doueihi, whilst also maintaining the contracts of Toa, Naden and Kepaoa. All 5 are fringe first graders. We only have 2 spots left and are in desperate need of another NRL calibre outside back, another second rower, probably another prop...

We just can't afford to have so many players in a top 30 who are backups, as well as kids who actually are our backups.

Realistically heading into 2025 we can keep no more than 1-2 of Naden, Toa, Staines, Kepaoa, Faatape and Doueihi. That's if we want to be competitive.

I would much rather see all 5 leave and have a crack with new players who might be NRL standard. All of the above are not.
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I agree … who is off contract ? Faatape , Douehi and AJ… I wouldnt be re-signing any of them at the moment unless there is a big turnaround in form through the end of this year .,,

Toa and Naden should be out the door with them …at the very least they need to be deep depth only ... Not automatically picked when they are fit …
 
balmain boy said:
That is exactly the position we're in.

We cannot re-sign both Faatape and Doueihi, whilst also maintaining the contracts of Toa, Naden and Kepaoa. All 5 are fringe first graders. We only have 2 spots left and are in desperate need of another NRL calibre outside back, another second rower, probably another prop...

We just can't afford to have so many players in a top 30 who are backups, as well as kids who actually are our backups.

Realistically heading into 2025 we can keep no more than 1-2 of Naden, Toa, Staines, Kepaoa, Faatape and Doueihi. That's if we want to be competitive.

I would much rather see all 5 leave and have a crack with new players who might be NRL standard. All of the above are not.
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If it’s 2 of them only
Faatape needs another crack , and was going ok
Staines , was going well got a very serious injury , another crack
Adam is injury prone , Naden Useless , Kepaoa I’m mixed on him.
Toa , is very hot and cold , moveon
 
jirskyr said:
I think you are overly negative about Doueihi for some reason.

2025 is not very far away. I assume the club has some decent idea of who might be available to buy between now and the next pre-season. I assume the club knows how much money they have left.

So you can put a minimum-wage offer to a nobody like Naden or Faataape, and I'm fine with that, but I think there is equal risk making that lowball offer to an injury-prone player with a much higher ceiling.
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I wouldn't say negative, just realistic. He's been the most overpaid bludger in the game for the past few years. Raking in almost 3 million for a few games where he was largely below average.

Unless we are releasing 4-5 players currently under contract for 2025 there is no room for a player most likely to spend the next few years toiling away in state cup at best, if not retiring.

He has no position either. No longer a 5/8, he sucked when he was previously at centre, one great game and lots of other shockers. His speed and movement will only have worsened after 3 ACL's too. His effort, concentration levels, decision making and work rate have been his major faults throughout his career, along with a lack of pace and poor defensive technique. That's a huge project that we want to try and fix in order to squeeze him into a new position. Given our track record with project players, his injury history, his poor attitude, i just don't think he'll ever be a successful professional footy player again. And definitely not with us.

The fact he's leaked his low ball offer will only anger Richo too, putting him deeper into the bad books. I'd say we've already agreed he's not worth the trouble but out of loyalty and hope offered him a one year deal to try extract some value out of a player who's drained our bank account and given nothing in return for years.

Successful clubs with lots of quality already in them like the Panthers, Roosters, Storm etc can take the gamble on him for minimum wage, if it doesn't work out it's no loss for them. For us re-signing him probably means either we're stuck with the same backs or forwards for next season, which is horrifying.
 
The offer to Doueihi is more than fair we've nursed him through 2 of his 3 ACL's so its reasonable to say we haven't gotten our moneys worth out of his current deal.
A 1 yr minimum offer to prove his fitness and to possibly obtain a better deal, personally i would have shook his hand and said thank you for keeping the rehab team busy. We need to move on he needs to move on, if he thinks he's worth more or someone is willing to take the risk on him then so be it. I think going to Rugby or England is probably a better fit for him than the NRL rigors.
 
Wearyfan22 said:
I heard some of the comments from the Knights coach before the last game that the Tigers attack differently to most of the other sides, with lots of shape and lots of passes. I thought that was a weird comment but he clearly knows a hell of a lot more about it than me
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Coaches watch game tape. We pass a lot and with depth. Benji clearly has got a plan which the players have to adapt or be replaced. It’s going to be a long season it’s what Ciraldo did with the dogs defence last year. I believe he’s in the right track with Luai coming.
 
balmain boy said:
I wouldn't say negative, just realistic. He's been the most overpaid bludger in the game for the past few years. Raking in almost 3 million for a few games where he was largely below average.

Unless we are releasing 4-5 players currently under contract for 2025 there is no room for a player most likely to spend the next few years toiling away in state cup at best, if not retiring.

He has no position either. No longer a 5/8, he sucked when he was previously at centre, one great game and lots of other shockers. His speed and movement will only have worsened after 3 ACL's too. His effort, concentration levels, decision making and work rate have been his major faults throughout his career, along with a lack of pace and poor defensive technique. That's a huge project that we want to try and fix in order to squeeze him into a new position. Given our track record with project players, his injury history, his poor attitude, i just don't think he'll ever be a successful professional footy player again. And definitely not with us.

The fact he's leaked his low ball offer will only anger Richo too, putting him deeper into the bad books. I'd say we've already agreed he's not worth the trouble but out of loyalty and hope offered him a one year deal to try extract some value out of a player who's drained our bank account and given nothing in return for years.
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Someone was saying that he doesn’t have an agent ...so he has leaked the story himself then ? I wonder if they have even made him a formal offer at this stage ? I would doubt it,, considering he is still likely months away from NRL…

I do disagree with you about his position…I think he is a 6 and it’s the only position he could play NRL… another reason why he should move on himself as no vacancy here for him
 
Rusted on Wests Tigers fans that have been keeping a close eye on the junior reps would’ve been excited to see Jordan Miller get his first start in NSW Cup on the weekend. The 19-year-old prop, who stands at 192cm tall and weighs 130kg, was a part of the Magpies’ Harold Matthews premiership-winning team in 2022 — and was the club’s Player of the Year that season.

He moved into the Top 30 this season and has been eased into NSW Cup after starting the year in SG Ball.

Miller had easily his best performance to date which included a try, a linebreak, three tackle busts and 124 running metres, as well as 24 tackles — no misses. He also punched out his highest minutes of the season (35), which is the key area he’s been working on.
 
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