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by Abraham
Tue 17 Oct, 2017 5:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

I'll go back and look at Geo's posts to clarify. I know that I never said that it specified any weapon. And yes, you're correct that the Supreme Court has confirmed a number of times in the last 30 years that it applies to modern weapons. Again I haven't disputed that, I said that it hasn't always ...
by Abraham
Tue 17 Oct, 2017 5:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

Geo. wrote:
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 9:01 am
Somehow I don't think those who wrote that constitution had high powered automatic weapons in mind...
Geo. wrote:
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 11:25 am
Or everyone gets a Musket..only fair..
This is what i was responding to ... and then CB started getting worked up over something else on a different tangent.
by Abraham
Tue 17 Oct, 2017 3:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

No one to the best of my knowledge in this thread said that the Second Amendment was written explicitly with muskets in mind. Yes they did. That's why we were having this specific discussion. It was a reference point, not a fact (y'know, like stating that Gatling Guns were invented 80 years before ...
by Abraham
Tue 17 Oct, 2017 1:34 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

I got 7 different responses overnight about the Musket/2nd Amendment issue, and i don't really want to start 7 different conversation on the same issue. So i am not trying to be rude by not replying to everyone individually, just that running 7 discussions on the same topic is not going to very pro...
by Abraham
Tue 17 Oct, 2017 12:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

Yes to all of the above. If you can successfully do it for fertilizer, you can do it with stockpiled weapons. Here in Kansas alone I am aware of at least three potential terror attacks foiled over the last couple of years by the tracking of fertilizer sales. Horses for courses. Its not as simple as...
by Abraham
Tue 17 Oct, 2017 12:31 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

I got 7 different responses overnight about the Musket/2nd Amendment issue, and i don't really want to start 7 different conversation on the same issue. So i am not trying to be rude by not replying to everyone individually, just that running 7 discussions on the same topic is not going to very prod...
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 6:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

A little research would have told you that the gatling gun was NOT in existence when the 2nd ammendment was introduced in 1791 the inventor wasnt even born till 1818.He must have been truly brilliant to design and build something 27 years before he was born. Well google tells me the Gatlin Gun was ...
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 5:27 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

I don't think a Gatling Gun would have been so easy to sneak into the 32nd floor of the Mandalay somehow, or any of the other mass shooting events that have taken place. And I'm sure that was put into service during the Civil War. Imagine old mate strolling into the Orlando gay club "just keep danc...
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

I don't think a Gatling Gun would have been so easy to sneak into the 32nd floor of the Mandalay somehow, or any of the other mass shooting events that have taken place. And I'm sure that was put into service during the Civil War. Imagine old mate strolling into the Orlando gay club "just keep danc...
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 2:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

A little research would have told you that the gatling gun was NOT in existence when the 2nd ammendment was introduced in 1791 the inventor wasnt even born till 1818.He must have been truly brilliant to design and build something 27 years before he was born. Well google tells me the Gatlin Gun was ...
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 1:03 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

Individual "gun proponents" may not take these positions, but the gun lobby groups, most notably the NRA do and profess to speak on behalf of gun owners. Thanks scoop. Well stop saying that "gun proponents" don't say this or that or believe this or that because the organisations that say they speak...
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 1:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

Having tighter gun registration would have helped police identify some one possibly slipping over the edge. 33 purchases of semi automatic weapons in a 12 month period is extraordinary by any standard. Ok, say he had to register these guns with the feds, then what next? They turn up to his house an...
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 12:48 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

cochise wrote:
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 12:41 pm
Individual "gun proponents" may not take these positions, but the gun lobby groups, most notably the NRA do and profess to speak on behalf of gun owners.
Thanks scoop.
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 12:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

Somehow I don't think those who wrote that constitution had high powered automatic weapons in mind... Actually they did. Its a fallacy that only muskets and single shot rifles were in circulation at the time the constitution was written. Rapid fire assault weapons (belton flintlock and gatling gun,...
by Abraham
Mon 16 Oct, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

These generalisations: Gun proponents are all about what wont work without ever offering solutions. Gun proponents agree mental stability can be a major factor in many of these mass shootings, yet fought any legislation to stop access by mental disturbed people to guns Gun proponents agree that cri...
by Abraham
Fri 13 Oct, 2017 2:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

I am a gun proponent, and i don't think i am guilty of any of the above. So not sure why a post full of generalisations was directed at me. What generalization are you talking about? All four of the examples I gave were stopped at the legislative stage by the pro gun lobby over the last 10 years. T...
by Abraham
Fri 13 Oct, 2017 12:55 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

I occasionally go hunting, a semi-auto is simply overkill. Sometimes its overkill, and sometimes its the right tool for the job. If your trophy hunting, or popping off rabbits for fun, its definitely not necessary. However if your trying to eradicate pests at a rapid rate, its a better option than ...
by Abraham
Fri 13 Oct, 2017 12:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: America - Gun Control
Replies: 400
Views: 4079

Re: America - Gun Control

You don't NEED a gun to hunt, period. But that's just being stupid. I'm getting the distinct feeling that you don't like me for some reason MG. What's hurt your feelings? I have no personal opinion of you either way. I dont debate people I debate issues. Gun proponents are all about what wont work ...

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