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by goldcoast tiger
Tue 25 Sep, 2018 9:07 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I wouldn't demote Ivan, I would keep him as head coach and employ Madge in an advisory role (like Brain Smith when Potter was coach). I wonder if Nathan have a clause in his contract to move to where his father is coaching? And pay for two “Coaches”?? That’s about as useful as trying to force Ivan ...
by goldcoast tiger
Tue 25 Sep, 2018 7:36 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

How does those who say that he has to sign an extension (or not be the Coach )get around the legality bits , such as he CANNOT be forced to sign an extension , and especially under duress, which involve threats of removing him from coaching, Where is the hard evidence of any wrongdoing. If he wants...
by goldcoast tiger
Tue 25 Sep, 2018 7:19 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I’m waiting for someone to dispute my idea of coming to an agreement for the coming season that the tigers and Ivan part way at the end of 2019. I believe that is the best outcome for all. It’s like meeting at an even price point when buying real estate. If we can't get Madge or option 2 that will ...
by goldcoast tiger
Tue 25 Sep, 2018 7:17 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I’m waiting for someone to dispute my idea of coming to an agreement for the coming season that the tigers and Ivan part way at the end of 2019. I believe that is the best outcome for all. It’s like meeting at an even price point when buying real estate. If we can't get Madge or option 2 that will ...
by goldcoast tiger
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

The trouble is we can’t win
by goldcoast tiger
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Sorry Willow I didn’t see your post before posting,
by goldcoast tiger
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 8:10 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

How does those who say that he has to sign an extension (or not be the Coach )get around the legality bits , such as he CANNOT be forced to sign an extension , and especially under duress, which involve threats of removing him from coaching, Where is the hard evidence of any wrongdoing. If he wants ...
by goldcoast tiger
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 5:55 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Missed it by that much. Context is everything. Read it again. In the conversation, Pascoe is referring to his relationship with Cleary when he says "he compromised that". So Pascoe never says Cleary compromised his position at the tigers, even if it does suit certain agendas on this forum. Exactly ...
by goldcoast tiger
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 5:33 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Youre concerned? Signings made months apart, with an apparent view im assuming to Cleary taking them to Penrith with him in two years time...all designed to fit the balance of that squad and their cap without knowing who is recruited, released & retired in the meantime??? That would be some feat! :...
by goldcoast tiger
Sun 23 Sep, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I’m struggling to work out the truth from the lies in this situation, Ivan was seen as the saviour for WT when he was appointed,so far nothing has changed in real time, we have two good signings from roosters, Ivan has said he is staying for two more years minimum, I believe that he is a man of int...
by goldcoast tiger
Sun 23 Sep, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Hooper giving it to Ivan Cleary on MMM. Said he has lost respect for Ivan. Said Tigers supporters all bought into the rebuild theme and now Cleary acting hypocritically (my word not his). Said he’d be happy for Cleary to go now. Great to hear someone stand up for our club. I know there are many dif...
by goldcoast tiger
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I actually think that its a really dumb move by the club to make this sort of ultimatum to Cleary - either sign an extension of we will give you the boot. What if he signs the extension, and we run dead last for the next two years? Do we just say oh well, it didnt work out, here's a suitcase full o...
by goldcoast tiger
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 1:35 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

You can not compare players to coaches. Players get dropped, one of the hazards of their job. Name a coach whose ever been demoted to coach reserve grade? Name a coach who signed to coach a rival team while still having 2 years left on his contract? The point is any employee can be demoted. So no c...
by goldcoast tiger
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 6:44 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Job descriptions would be included in his contract, some thing along the lines of 'NRL coach Wests Tigers' Punting him to reserve grade assistant isnt an option....LOL, or even illegal So hold on, no worker can ever be demoted??? It’s an option for every employee to be demoted by his employer. The ...
by goldcoast tiger
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 6:30 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

At the moment I'm sure the club is looking at this issue from all angles, including the legal situation of the various scenarios. Having sacked a coach 18 months ago and having to pay him out, to sack another coach would be a heavy financial burden if they had to pay him out plus pay another senior...
by goldcoast tiger
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I just cant see this being put to bed on our end. I dont think the media will let this rest until Penrith name a high profile coach to replace Ciraldo. While ever Ciraldo is coaching Penrith there will be speculation. As I said before, it’s not as simple as telling Ivan that he has to sign an exten...
by goldcoast tiger
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Exactly what I heard and posted earlier. I am curious which signing did not happen as a result. It will cost us more if it’s not put to bed quickly. I just cant see this being put to bed on our end. I dont think the media will let this rest until Penrith name a high profile coach to replace Ciraldo...
by goldcoast tiger
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:36 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4232
Views: 130342

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Just cut ties. Sign Madge and get on with bolstering our side. And then get ready for round one next year when the NRL will match us up with the Cleary’s. And have Mahe run at Nathan all day. If Mahe is in our starting line up next year then we’ve failed miserably on the recruitment front. You’re n...