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by goldcoast tiger
Sun 23 Sep, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I’m struggling to work out the truth from the lies in this situation, Ivan was seen as the saviour for WT when he was appointed,so far nothing has changed in real time, we have two good signings from roosters, Ivan has said he is staying for two more years minimum, I believe that he is a man of int...
by goldcoast tiger
Sun 23 Sep, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Hooper giving it to Ivan Cleary on MMM. Said he has lost respect for Ivan. Said Tigers supporters all bought into the rebuild theme and now Cleary acting hypocritically (my word not his). Said he’d be happy for Cleary to go now. Great to hear someone stand up for our club. I know there are many dif...
by goldcoast tiger
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I actually think that its a really dumb move by the club to make this sort of ultimatum to Cleary - either sign an extension of we will give you the boot. What if he signs the extension, and we run dead last for the next two years? Do we just say oh well, it didnt work out, here's a suitcase full o...
by goldcoast tiger
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 1:35 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

You can not compare players to coaches. Players get dropped, one of the hazards of their job. Name a coach whose ever been demoted to coach reserve grade? Name a coach who signed to coach a rival team while still having 2 years left on his contract? The point is any employee can be demoted. So no c...
by goldcoast tiger
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 6:44 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Job descriptions would be included in his contract, some thing along the lines of 'NRL coach Wests Tigers' Punting him to reserve grade assistant isnt an option....LOL, or even illegal So hold on, no worker can ever be demoted??? It’s an option for every employee to be demoted by his employer. The ...
by goldcoast tiger
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 6:30 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

At the moment I'm sure the club is looking at this issue from all angles, including the legal situation of the various scenarios. Having sacked a coach 18 months ago and having to pay him out, to sack another coach would be a heavy financial burden if they had to pay him out plus pay another senior...
by goldcoast tiger
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:49 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I just cant see this being put to bed on our end. I dont think the media will let this rest until Penrith name a high profile coach to replace Ciraldo. While ever Ciraldo is coaching Penrith there will be speculation. As I said before, it’s not as simple as telling Ivan that he has to sign an exten...
by goldcoast tiger
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Exactly what I heard and posted earlier. I am curious which signing did not happen as a result. It will cost us more if it’s not put to bed quickly. I just cant see this being put to bed on our end. I dont think the media will let this rest until Penrith name a high profile coach to replace Ciraldo...
by goldcoast tiger
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:36 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Just cut ties. Sign Madge and get on with bolstering our side. And then get ready for round one next year when the NRL will match us up with the Cleary’s. And have Mahe run at Nathan all day. If Mahe is in our starting line up next year then we’ve failed miserably on the recruitment front. You’re n...
by goldcoast tiger
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Simply if Ivan does not agree to extend his current deal with the club he WILL NOT be the head coach for 2019. Everything should be finalized one way or the other prior to pre-season, but this is affecting recruitment big time & has already cost us one signing. Exactly what I heard and posted earli...
by goldcoast tiger
Thu 20 Sep, 2018 9:17 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Maybe the POM can confirm but I’m hearing WT management will sit down with Cleary in the next 2 weeks to table an extension to his contract. If he refuses and commits to the Panthers in 2021 they will sign Maguire and only release Cleary under their own terms. Tigers prepared to let Cleary sit on t...
by goldcoast tiger
Wed 19 Sep, 2018 11:19 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Get rid of him now! Not the time to dig the heels in to save face, from a recruitment perspective we will ‘drift’ for 2 years if the likely scenario plays out. But make him face the fans before he heads out to Gus’s wonderland on the banks of the Nepean. I’ve lost all respect for Ivan over this. I ...
by goldcoast tiger
Wed 19 Sep, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Surely if he is meeting with another club and there is any discussion around moving on earlier he is in breach of contract. If he confirms a move and attempts to talk to players around improving or their future (as a coach would) he is acting on behalf of another club and breaking recruitment rules...
by goldcoast tiger
Wed 19 Sep, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

I think 'Nathan calling the shots' is a bit simplistic. Nathan and Ivan live in the same house. They don't have to have clandestine latte's together. Unless I'm way wrong, they are playing this together to a plan. Of course they would be planning this together to get the best outcome for both of th...
by goldcoast tiger
Wed 19 Sep, 2018 8:47 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

News on Nathan’s contact extension a few days after the Panthers 2018 season finishing, and speculative news from multiple media sources (Fox Sports/SMH) that Ivan is negotiating to coach Penrith from 2021 suggests that an understanding of intent from both Cleary’s could of been unofficially resolv...
by goldcoast tiger
Wed 19 Sep, 2018 8:30 pm
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Nathan Cleary
Replies: 1889
Views: 101125

Re: Nathan Cleary

Yep, premature to extend before even making the finals. 2 years is a long time. Hypothetically speaking we could be pushing for a premiership in two years time. No guarantees Penrith will, what does Ivan want more, to coach his son or be a premiership winning coach? Yep, It’s a no brainer. If we tr...
by goldcoast tiger
Wed 19 Sep, 2018 8:27 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Wed 19 Sep, 2018 6:48 am
Christ, we can’t have Cleary running off with all our secrets. Other clubs might finally learn the secret about how to miss the finals for 7 consecutive seasons.

Lol
No! That’s secret is taken care of , it’s locked away in a Swiss bank under armed guard, we’ll never lose that
Lol
by goldcoast tiger
Wed 19 Sep, 2018 8:15 am
Forum: Player Contract Rumours & Discussion
Topic: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
Replies: 4104
Views: 127117

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Fox sports reporting Ivan Cleary in deep negotiations to sign with Penrith a 3 year contract from 2021. I don’t know how people think his position is tenable here. The fact he continues to meet with panthers while employed by us shows he has absolutely no integrity. How can we have a coach that is ...