Why can't NSW stop momentum when they tackle?

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Why can't NSW stop momentum when they tackle?

Post by colmcd » Thu 07 Jun, 2018 6:30 am

It was good to see Game 1 and good to see the Blues get a win.

But one thing I noticed. Nearly every time I saw NSW get tackled, they made contact and they player virtually stopped. Only Jake Trebvovovic seemed to make a little dent.
While when Queensland hit the NSW defensive line. Once the players made contact, they kept going for another step, then they usually fell forward.

It wasn't just tonight's game. Game 2 and 3 last series I noticed the same thing. Queensland were making meters and not being stopped once tackled. NSW gets tackled and stops.

I think it's in the training and I have seen Melbourne make meters once tackled but stop the other team. Has anyone else noticed this too?


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Post by Byron Bay Fan » Thu 07 Jun, 2018 6:38 am

Gould made the point of the Qld dump-'em-hard defence that should be played but it didn't win the game for them. It only made NSW players run faster so they would not be caught and dumped.
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Post by steve-o » Thu 07 Jun, 2018 6:44 am

Qld made an effort to be more dominant in defense, which is why NSW struggled to get out of there own half. But then this caused the Qlders to run out of gas quicker, resulting in more missed tackles, and line breaks for NSW. This tactic will likely work better for Qld at ANZ, as they'll be playing on a dewy surface which will result in the game being more of a grind. But game 3 at Suncorp should be another fast surface, so that will favour the Blues (assuming the teams go in with the same tactics).
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Post by The Patriot » Thu 07 Jun, 2018 6:58 am

Post contact metres.

Fafita is the best obviously but kind of feel Fitler just went for hard running players who can get quick play the ball.
Its an opinion!

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Post by colmcd » Sun 10 Jun, 2018 9:45 am

steve-o wrote:
Thu 07 Jun, 2018 6:44 am
Qld made an effort to be more dominant in defense, which is why NSW struggled to get out of there own half. But then this caused the Qlders to run out of gas quicker, resulting in more missed tackles, and line breaks for NSW. This tactic will likely work better for Qld at ANZ, as they'll be playing on a dewy surface which will result in the game being more of a grind. But game 3 at Suncorp should be another fast surface, so that will favour the Blues (assuming the teams go in with the same tactics).
Weird you say that.

Because ANZ is the win NSW will need and the home crowd will be in their favor.
While Suncorp is always the tough match.
Was it ANZ that Fifita refused to play at or Suncorp?

Anyway those big forwards in Woods, Fifita and Jackson are out. I can see Klemmer getting kicked for Ryan James, which should be interesting.


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Post by steve-o » Sun 10 Jun, 2018 9:54 am

colmcd wrote:
Sun 10 Jun, 2018 9:45 am
steve-o wrote:
Thu 07 Jun, 2018 6:44 am
Qld made an effort to be more dominant in defense, which is why NSW struggled to get out of there own half. But then this caused the Qlders to run out of gas quicker, resulting in more missed tackles, and line breaks for NSW. This tactic will likely work better for Qld at ANZ, as they'll be playing on a dewy surface which will result in the game being more of a grind. But game 3 at Suncorp should be another fast surface, so that will favour the Blues (assuming the teams go in with the same tactics).
Weird you say that.

Because ANZ is the win NSW will need and the home crowd will be in their favor.
While Suncorp is always the tough match.
Was it ANZ that Fifita refused to play at or Suncorp?

Anyway those big forwards in Woods, Fifita and Jackson are out. I can see Klemmer getting kicked for Ryan James, which should be interesting.
Yeah I mean obviously the home teams have an advantage at their respective venues, but if we imagined that the two venues were neutral, the conditions at Suncorp suit the Blues more than the conditions at ANZ. I don’t think Klemmer will be dropped after his performance in game 1. If any prop was to be dropped for James, I think it’ll be Paul Vaughan
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Post by colmcd » Tue 19 Jun, 2018 9:47 pm

steve-o wrote:
Sun 10 Jun, 2018 9:54 am
colmcd wrote:
Sun 10 Jun, 2018 9:45 am
steve-o wrote:
Thu 07 Jun, 2018 6:44 am
Qld made an effort to be more dominant in defense, which is why NSW struggled to get out of there own half. But then this caused the Qlders to run out of gas quicker, resulting in more missed tackles, and line breaks for NSW. This tactic will likely work better for Qld at ANZ, as they'll be playing on a dewy surface which will result in the game being more of a grind. But game 3 at Suncorp should be another fast surface, so that will favour the Blues (assuming the teams go in with the same tactics).
Weird you say that.

Because ANZ is the win NSW will need and the home crowd will be in their favor.
While Suncorp is always the tough match.
Was it ANZ that Fifita refused to play at or Suncorp?

Anyway those big forwards in Woods, Fifita and Jackson are out. I can see Klemmer getting kicked for Ryan James, which should be interesting.
Yeah I mean obviously the home teams have an advantage at their respective venues, but if we imagined that the two venues were neutral, the conditions at Suncorp suit the Blues more than the conditions at ANZ. I don’t think Klemmer will be dropped after his performance in game 1. If any prop was to be dropped for James, I think it’ll be Paul Vaughan
Its weird, NSW have gone from massive changes each game too superloyal.
We can CHANGE 1 FORWARD, it's great to let people play together but it should not be a privileged or having selection have players feel safe. Bring Prior and James in while telling someone else to walk.

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