Well done Tim Moltzen.

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Well done Tim Moltzen.

Post by Guest » Thu 28 Mar, 2013 11:35 pm

Allan Towle wrote:
innsaneink wrote:LOL...he was hooked
Which says more about how Potter coached tonight as Moltzen was dangerous tonight and safe at the back.
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Post by tig_prmz » Thu 28 Mar, 2013 11:36 pm

quite impressed with how he is improving.. certainly making sure he doesnt get dropped.
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Post by Irvine » Thu 28 Mar, 2013 11:40 pm

Another good game from Moltzen he is a good defender always has been.
I think Miller has had a descent go its time to give Tedesco a go. Moltzen to halfback.
Tedesco playing out of position wasn't fair. Give Tedesco 4 games at fullback lets see if he is better than Miller.

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Post by Demonborger » Thu 28 Mar, 2013 11:46 pm

Teddy to 1
Moltzen to centre
Lawrence to wing
Miller to state cup
Masada to released
Brooks to 7
Sirro to bench

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Post by Irvine » Thu 28 Mar, 2013 11:49 pm

Good idea to bring Sirro in at least he can tackle.


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Post by TIGER » Thu 28 Mar, 2013 11:49 pm

I've said it many times before but I believe he is our best attacking weapon by far! we need more plays set up for him, he's one of very few who can beat players with footwork and speed. Fullback is a very very tough position to learn and become good at, it was always going to take time and I think he was and still is unfairly treated on these forums.

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Post by Demonborger » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 12:01 am

Moltzen for all his faults with defusing kicks was always a reasonable 1v1 defender and had the ability to beat players inside the 20. Without him we'd of scored a lot less tries last year.

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Post by RatedRKO » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 12:50 am

Played well tonight, can't really fault him.

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Post by bonstonker » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 3:39 am

innsaneink wrote:LOL...he was hooked
injured his hand.

as for moltzen his game was fine.
tedesco disappointing.can't drop easy kicks like that and be a top line fullback.

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Post by Tbone » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 4:11 am

My indifference to molten stems from his off field antics of 2011 and his lack of gonads when returning the ball. But he had a very good game tonight. I've been most impressed by his defensive efforts this year. He has made some excellent takes off very difficult bombs so far. Saved a try tonight and one against parra too.

That easy drop by tedesco would be eating him up that's for sure. Hate to see a bloke with such bad luck with injury make a good comeback only to let himself down when given a chance. Unfair to judge much of the rest of his game at wing. I hope he gets another shot soon.

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Post by smeghead » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 8:47 am

He was safe under the high ball which was good.

The problem I have with him remains the same. He does not want to run the ball with any vigor if their is fear of being tackled. He supported Woods which was what he should be doing but rather then back himself and challenge the fullback he pikes it and starts crabbing sideways which sacrifices momentum and a quick PTB.

He looks like he wants to melt into the ground rather then return a kick properly.

Every single set when Moltzen receives the ball and there is not a winger right next to him we get buried for 3 tackles because he runs with zero conviction and purpose. Every set starts from the momentum of your back three and his playmaking provides almost less then zero of that.

I want to see what everyone else does who says how great he is playing but I just don't. I look at every other fullback in the competition and what they provide and Tim Moltzen ranks a distant last on that list
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Post by hybrid_tiger » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 9:02 am

smeghead wrote:He was safe under the high ball which was good.

The problem I have with him remains the same. He does not want to run the ball with any vigor if their is fear of being tackled. He supported Woods which was what he should be doing but rather then back himself and challenge the fullback he pikes it and starts crabbing sideways which sacrifices momentum and a quick PTB.

He looks like he wants to melt into the ground rather then return a kick properly.

Every single set when Moltzen receives the ball and there is not a winger right next to him we get buried for 3 tackles because he runs with zero conviction and purpose. Every set starts from the momentum of your back three and his playmaking provides almost less then zero of that.

I want to see what everyone else does who says how great he is playing but I just don't. I look at every other fullback in the competition and what they provide and Tim Moltzen ranks a distant last on that list
As usual, spot on. At least he did return the ball last night though.

I find it interesting that he plays pretty well when Tedesco comes into the side, maybe he realises his position is under threat? This is what you want, players playing for their spots.

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Post by innsaneink » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 9:27 am

smeghead wrote:He was safe under the high ball which was good.

The problem I have with him remains the same. He does not want to run the ball with any vigor if their is fear of being tackled. He supported Woods which was what he should be doing but rather then back himself and challenge the fullback he pikes it and starts crabbing sideways which sacrifices momentum and a quick PTB.

He looks like he wants to melt into the ground rather then return a kick properly.

Every single set when Moltzen receives the ball and there is not a winger right next to him we get buried for 3 tackles because he runs with zero conviction and purpose. Every set starts from the momentum of your back three and his playmaking provides almost less then zero of that.


I want to see what everyone else does who says how great he is playing but I just don't. I look at every other fullback in the competition and what they provide and Tim Moltzen ranks a distant last on that list
My main gripe too, along with not getting involved enough.

The first deep kick he had to field at 24 min mark or so he had miles of open paddock in front of him yet he still farted around looking for his winger, realised koro wasnt there and teddy out of position....he may have gained another 10-15m if he put his head down

As it eventuates that set we kick it dead on the 4th as were going nowhere, give away a penaty and then concede the first try....his kick return was negative and negative play and points against ensued

if doing the things i see other fullbacks do every week are worthy of praise then OK....he doesnt do it for me

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Post by smeghead » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 9:31 am

Agree on the not getting involved enough as well Ink but I don't know whether that comes down to planned structure.

For example the bodies in motion sweep play is most effective when you have the fullback as a floater who can create an extra man or drop in as a playmaker. But we don't do that. Cannot lay that on him though as I don't know the gameplans and structures
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Post by X-Pac » Fri 29 Mar, 2013 9:41 am

i agree if your fullback isnt willing to run the ball your gonna give a extra 3-4 secs for the defense to catch up and put more pressure on the team which is part of the reason we always struggle to get a adv
we need a fullback whos gonna be a threat and can break the line from the back(cmon even joel caine used to break the line from the back every now and than)

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