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Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:54 pm
by Cairnstigers
hobbo wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:32 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:30 pm
I think Woods would have to ask Ivan nicely if he can come back if we are to see him at the Tigers again

We only want players who want to play for the club and the team
That was Aaron before he left

He would no doubt be regretting the day he left the Tigers
Look at the mess he has got himself in
Swallow some pride Aaron
Give Ivan a call
Work something out
Come back home to where you belong
Bring $300000 a year from the dogs and we will give you $500000
You get your $800000 a year and get to play in the best forward rotation in the NRL
He did ask Ivan if he could come back
Ivan said no !

That’s the story I heard .
If Woods offered to play for $100000 a year Ivan would jump at the chance
If what you say is true it must be a $ issue
If Aaron is money motivated then good luck to him
It didn't get him far last time

Does he want a big pack around him and to finally work as a team
Or
Take another road
Sharks with no Gallen or Lewis and possibly Homes
The expectation on Aaron would be huge again
Or
Roosters with Cronk gone in a year
JWH losing his impact
Napa on the outer
And very high expectations

Dont make the same mistake

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:59 pm
by GNR4LIFE
Cairnstigers wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:54 pm
hobbo wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:32 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:30 pm
I think Woods would have to ask Ivan nicely if he can come back if we are to see him at the Tigers again

We only want players who want to play for the club and the team
That was Aaron before he left

He would no doubt be regretting the day he left the Tigers
Look at the mess he has got himself in
Swallow some pride Aaron
Give Ivan a call
Work something out
Come back home to where you belong
Bring $300000 a year from the dogs and we will give you $500000
You get your $800000 a year and get to play in the best forward rotation in the NRL
He did ask Ivan if he could come back
Ivan said no !

That’s the story I heard .
If Woods offered to play for $100000 a year Ivan would jump at the chance
If what you say is true it must be a $ issue
If Aaron is money motivated then good luck to him
It didn't get him far last time

Does he want a big pack around him and to finally work as a team
Or
Take another road
Sharks with no Gallen or Lewis and possibly Homes
The expectation on Aaron would be huge again
Or
Roosters with Cronk gone in a year
JWH losing his impact
Napa on the outer
And very high expectations

Dont make the same mistake
Why are you so convinced that

A - It’s a money issue.

And

B - Woods is in position of strength to be the one who decides whether he comes back.

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:06 pm
by hobbo
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:59 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:54 pm
hobbo wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:32 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:30 pm
I think Woods would have to ask Ivan nicely if he can come back if we are to see him at the Tigers again

We only want players who want to play for the club and the team
That was Aaron before he left

He would no doubt be regretting the day he left the Tigers
Look at the mess he has got himself in
Swallow some pride Aaron
Give Ivan a call
Work something out
Come back home to where you belong
Bring $300000 a year from the dogs and we will give you $500000
You get your $800000 a year and get to play in the best forward rotation in the NRL
He did ask Ivan if he could come back
Ivan said no !

That’s the story I heard .
If Woods offered to play for $100000 a year Ivan would jump at the chance
If what you say is true it must be a $ issue
If Aaron is money motivated then good luck to him
It didn't get him far last time

Does he want a big pack around him and to finally work as a team
Or
Take another road
Sharks with no Gallen or Lewis and possibly Homes
The expectation on Aaron would be huge again
Or
Roosters with Cronk gone in a year
JWH losing his impact
Napa on the outer
And very high expectations

Dont make the same mistake
Why are you so convinced that

A - It’s a money issue.

And

B - Woods is in position of strength to be the one who decides whether he comes back.
Woods dug himself a massive hole and I very much doubt Ivan would or will throw woods down a rope ladder

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:11 pm
by TigerTiger
Woods may not be totally driven by money, but I can't see him leaving the Dogs and forgoing a million dollars over a four year period to play with another club. He'll stay a Dog, they are stuck with him.

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:18 pm
by Tiger Steve
I’ve said before I’m just an average supporter and definitely am not arrogant enough to think I have a smoking gun BUT I am absolutely positive and certain that Woods wanted a Tigers return, the board were willing to accept this, but coaching staff did not think it a good use of available cap. That’s why he will be a shark or chook or dog but not a Tiger. Close the thread.

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:31 pm
by Cairnstigers
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:59 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:54 pm
hobbo wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:32 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:30 pm
I think Woods would have to ask Ivan nicely if he can come back if we are to see him at the Tigers again

We only want players who want to play for the club and the team
That was Aaron before he left

He would no doubt be regretting the day he left the Tigers
Look at the mess he has got himself in
Swallow some pride Aaron
Give Ivan a call
Work something out
Come back home to where you belong
Bring $300000 a year from the dogs and we will give you $500000
You get your $800000 a year and get to play in the best forward rotation in the NRL
He did ask Ivan if he could come back
Ivan said no !

That’s the story I heard .
If Woods offered to play for $100000 a year Ivan would jump at the chance
If what you say is true it must be a $ issue
If Aaron is money motivated then good luck to him
It didn't get him far last time

Does he want a big pack around him and to finally work as a team
Or
Take another road
Sharks with no Gallen or Lewis and possibly Homes
The expectation on Aaron would be huge again
Or
Roosters with Cronk gone in a year
JWH losing his impact
Napa on the outer
And very high expectations

Dont make the same mistake
Why are you so convinced that

A - It’s a money issue.

And

B - Woods is in position of strength to be the one who decides whether he comes back.
A -Money always talks
If you could get a bargin you would be silly not to have a serious look

B- I never said it was woods decision whether he comes back or not
He could ask as could any player but the final decision would be Ivan's and only if a $ value could be agreed to

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:45 pm
by foreveratiger
For the Woods lover's....his gone and ain't coming back , nothing more to be said .

:dead

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:45 pm
by CocaCola
If Woods switches clubs, does he need to be moved on for the same amount he was signed for by the dogs (800k?).

Can Sharks offer 500k, Dogs pay 200k & Woods take a 100k pay cut?

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:52 pm
by hobbo
CocaCola wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:45 pm
If Woods switches clubs, does he need to be moved on for the same amount he was signed for by the dogs (800k?).

Can Sharks offer 500k, Dogs pay 200k & Woods take a 100k pay cut?
Pm Geo , he’s good with all that stuff !

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:58 pm
by TYGA
CocaCola wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:45 pm
If Woods switches clubs, does he need to be moved on for the same amount he was signed for by the dogs (800k?).

Can Sharks offer 500k, Dogs pay 200k & Woods take a 100k pay cut?
Spot on. As long as the NRL approves the new contract and its near an agreed market value. Any player can take a lesser contract but when it’s way off the NRL won’t register like the Roosters tried to get Farah for 200k they wouldn’t allow it.

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 11:03 pm
by happy tiger
CocaCola wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:45 pm
If Woods switches clubs, does he need to be moved on for the same amount he was signed for by the dogs (800k?).

Can Sharks offer 500k, Dogs pay 200k & Woods take a 100k pay cut?
No , look at the Hayne situation .....

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Wed 13 Jun, 2018 11:06 pm
by Tiger Steve
happy tiger wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 11:03 pm
CocaCola wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:45 pm
If Woods switches clubs, does he need to be moved on for the same amount he was signed for by the dogs (800k?).

Can Sharks offer 500k, Dogs pay 200k & Woods take a 100k pay cut?
No , look at the Hayne situation .....
TYGA (above) is spot on so I’ve never understood The Hayne contract

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Thu 14 Jun, 2018 12:53 am
by Needaname
Ok thanks for the input. If it’s dead in the water it’s fine then. Get a feeling the Manly might actually have a play at him if Taupau goes. Other than that his a dog who gets to play with his bff Klemmer. Why would he leave the dogs. Unless of course they say to him we don’t see you as our front rower next year so you might want to have a look around. (Circumstances of how we came to pick up Mbye re fullback) that could motivate him to move.

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Thu 14 Jun, 2018 5:04 am
by happy tiger
Tiger Steve wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 11:06 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 11:03 pm
CocaCola wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:45 pm
If Woods switches clubs, does he need to be moved on for the same amount he was signed for by the dogs (800k?).

Can Sharks offer 500k, Dogs pay 200k & Woods take a 100k pay cut?
No , look at the Hayne situation .....
TYGA (above) is spot on so I’ve never understood The Hayne contract
Which was my exact point :? Hayne signed for allegedly 1.2 for GCT and then signed for allegedly 550 k by Parra

But as Tyga says the contract must be agreed upon and ratified by the NRL

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Thu 14 Jun, 2018 7:33 am
by Pawsandclaws
Tiger Steve wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:18 pm
I’ve said before I’m just an average supporter and definitely am not arrogant enough to think I have a smoking gun BUT I am absolutely positive and certain that Woods wanted a Tigers return, the board were willing to accept this, but coaching staff did not think it a good use of available cap. That’s why he will be a shark or chook or dog but not a Tiger. Close the thread.

Good post and almost certaintly we don't need to invest a huge amount on Woods. Any spare $ should be set aside for an upgrade for Twal. He is better than Woods now.

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Thu 14 Jun, 2018 8:00 am
by voice of reason
happy tiger wrote:
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 5:04 am
Which was my exact point :? Hayne signed for allegedly 1.2 for GCT and then signed for allegedly 550 k by Parra
But as Tyga says the contract must be agreed upon and ratified by the NRL
It would seem to make sense if the NRL could also veto contracts that seemed largely inflated (cite Hayne example above) - just to protect clubs from themselves.
Perhaps they set a player value based on current ability, experience, rep football and potential and they won't ratify a contract which is 20% above or below.
It's a shame the topics which are so often discussed are salary cap and referees - two topics which should be merely incidental to the real game.

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Thu 14 Jun, 2018 8:48 am
by Russell
TCL wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:44 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:34 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 9:30 pm
I think Woods would have to ask Ivan nicely if he can come back if we are to see him at the Tigers again

We only want players who want to play for the club and the team
That was Aaron before he left


He would no doubt be regretting the day he left the Tigers
Look at the mess he has got himself in
Swallow some pride Aaron
Give Ivan a call
Work something out
Come back home to where you belong
Bring $300000 a year from the dogs and we will give you $500000
You get your $800000 a year and get to play in the best forward rotation in the NRL
Why’d he leave then?
Not the sharpest and guided by a sly fox
More a weasel I'd say!!!!

Re: Aaron Woods - Signs with Bulldogs [Official]..

Posted: Thu 14 Jun, 2018 9:10 am
by hammertime
happy tiger wrote:
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 5:04 am
Tiger Steve wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 11:06 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 11:03 pm
CocaCola wrote:
Wed 13 Jun, 2018 10:45 pm
If Woods switches clubs, does he need to be moved on for the same amount he was signed for by the dogs (800k?).

Can Sharks offer 500k, Dogs pay 200k & Woods take a 100k pay cut?
No , look at the Hayne situation .....
TYGA (above) is spot on so I’ve never understood The Hayne contract
Which was my exact point :? Hayne signed for allegedly 1.2 for GCT and then signed for allegedly 550 k by Parra

But as Tyga says the contract must be agreed upon and ratified by the NRL
I thought that his contract was finished at CGT and that the dispute was more around Parra paying unders, as that can be questionable (i.e. what are they offering under the table)

Pretty sure that if a player is contracted currently, the full value must be picked up by a club(s) somewhere along the line, unless both parties agree to rescind the contract (head to UK) or a player can be moved on from a breach in contract.

Most cases are a club moving on a contracted player, so the player will want the full amount of his/her contract if they were to play elsewhere. Usually a sweetener would be involved too for the player, say with mbye, signing for an extra year.