Signing Suggestions & Rumours THREAD..

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Re: Signing Suggestions & Rumours THREAD..

Post by jirskyr » Tue 20 Mar, 2018 4:06 pm

NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 10:39 pm
Lets flip this on its head for a minute.
At Wests Tigers, Ivan has what he has asked for; control of the team.
He came here from Panthers with Gould looking over his shoulder and having ultimate control. If he goes to the Capons, will he have control or will someone else (Nick) be looking over his shoulder with ultimate control?
Where is he better off in terms of realising his vision, building a team, structuring that team and laying out his game plan, here or at the Capons?
He comes across as a man of integrity. He has talked about a plan at WT spanning a few years.
Haha Capons... had to look it up.

I wouldn't just be worried about having full control vs interference, I'd be worried about results. Thing about clubs like Roosters, they'll take care of you if you produce results, they'll also dump you quick smart if you fail. You've got ongoing rumblings about Trent Robinson's future and they guy has overseen 4 very successful seasons out of 5 total, including 3 MPs and 1 premiership.

Ivan needs to take Tigers to the finals a few times to be heralded a hero. At Roosters that would be the minimum.


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Post by underdog » Tue 20 Mar, 2018 4:20 pm

Coaches aren't included in the salary cap.

IF we are looking at becoming a dynasty before, during and after 2020, the Tigers should be making money by that stage.

Throw the kitchen sink at Cleary I mean like Bennett money at him if he's done what we think he's capable of doing over the next couple of years- for once lets beat the Roosters at their own game.

Nathan will want to play for dad, and would do it at a slight discount you'd think (besides, dad might just start paying him "pocket money" if he's still under the same roof - say 10,000 per week... :mrgreen: )
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Post by Yossarian » Tue 20 Mar, 2018 4:22 pm

Aren't they introducing a soft cap for off field staff?

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Post by teddy23 » Tue 20 Mar, 2018 4:23 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 11:56 am
supercoach wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 11:32 am
Fibros wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 11:08 am
momo&medo wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 10:35 pm
There has been some chatter around that Israel Folau management has put out feelers to Tod Greenberg for possible return to the NRL.
Would be great pickup for us. Would cut deep into our salary cap if NRL didn’t offer some incentives.
However one downside ..... I believe he is managed by our friend Moses.
Izzy to the rorters the only club that can afford him.
Parra have been linked to Izzy
Cowboys ..... they have a lot of dollars leaving their salary cap shortly
Cowboys will get Val Holmes instead

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Post by Pawsandclaws » Tue 20 Mar, 2018 4:28 pm

wt00 wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 3:49 pm
momo&medo wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 10:35 pm
There has been some chatter around that Israel Folau management has put out feelers to Tod Greenberg for possible return to the NRL.
Would be great pickup for us. Would cut deep into our salary cap if NRL didn’t offer some incentives.
However one downside ..... I believe he is managed by our friend Moses.
Jamie Soward says a club would need 800k in their cap for izzy.. I'm pretty sure we'd have that left over in our cap. Wishful thinking on my behalf but would love to see a talent like izzy in Tiger colours
Do you believe paying big money for a rugby convert would go against Cleary's intent of a more evenly spread expenditure of the salary cap among players?

We have Thompson performing really well. He knows he will get a fair go under Cleary if he performs. I feel a coach would be intimidated to drop Folau if he didn't perform and was on near a million a season.


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Post by Geo. » Tue 20 Mar, 2018 5:30 pm

Yossarian wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 4:22 pm
Aren't they introducing a soft cap for off field staff?
Yes and I can't see the Rorters getting around that at all..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by gallagher » Tue 20 Mar, 2018 5:35 pm

Geo. wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 5:30 pm
Yossarian wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 4:22 pm
Aren't they introducing a soft cap for off field staff?
Yes and I can't see the Rorters getting around that at all..
An increase in leagues club staff would do it.

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Post by happy tiger » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 12:05 am

teddy23 wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 4:23 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 11:56 am
supercoach wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 11:32 am
Fibros wrote:
Tue 20 Mar, 2018 11:08 am


Izzy to the rorters the only club that can afford him.
Parra have been linked to Izzy
Cowboys ..... they have a lot of dollars leaving their salary cap shortly
Cowboys will get Val Holmes instead
I reckon Paul Green got a very think nikko pen and scratched it through Val's name after Round 1 , he was horrible up there

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Post by colmcd » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 4:14 am

ku5tom wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 9:17 pm
In regards to Ivan its hard to say what will happen between now and 2020 but I would like to believe he would stay. He has said that the Tigers wont be playing their best football for a few years and I am sure he would like to reap the rewards of what he has built which Gus didn't allow him at the Panthers.

I think Ivan will win a premiership as a coach and I hope it is with us.

I would be fine with having a get out clause for Nathan if Ivan left and offer them both a 5 year contract.

Rorters do have deep pockets but I am sure our offer will be really good and Ivan did say he was a Tigers supporter growing up.

Would be nice for us to get a signing over the chooks.
Glad to know he was a Tigers supporter. Hey that counts with Brad Arthur in the Eels

More then that, were assuming a lot:
Ivan says he wants to have Nathan on the same team.... What about Nathan? Son may think very differently.
We just saw the Roosters eject Pearce. Boyd was sounding miserable on MMM. Why would you send your son there?
Sure they have Cronk as a mentor, but clearly the Roosters are prepared to drop people at the touch of a hat.
The Roosters are more willing to drop coaches then players.

Unless there is a $2M signing bonus. He wont be going to the Roosters. The Roosters will sign Flanagan, Bellamy or Green.

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Post by Tigerdon » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 8:43 am

I don’t think Nathan needs a mentor.
Val Homes didn’t make a good go of it at fullback and seems uninterested on the wing this year. Still, only two games have been played and there’s a long season ahead.
in Ivan we distrust

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Post by Tweed Tiger » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 12:00 pm

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 885980dac4

Penrith winger Josh Manour is off-contract and as one of, if not, the best on the market, he’s demanding big money.

As a Test and Origin representative, the Panthers understandably want to keep the flyer but it’ll cost them to do so.

Phil Gould revealed he’s seeking a deal worth more than $400,000 a season.

“That won’t get to first base,” Gould told 100% Footy when asked about a 400k deal for Mansour.

Parramatta are a club in the mix for Mansour.

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Post by Tweed Tiger » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 12:00 pm

Mansour did say prior to round 1 he expects Tigers to be a force in 2018

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Post by Tacky » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 1:05 pm

ku5tom wrote:
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Mansour did say prior to round 1 he expects Tigers to be a force in 2018
It's probably just me but, I don't rate Mansour that highly. Especially not at +$400K.
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Post by GNR4LIFE » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 1:30 pm

ku5tom wrote:
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Mansour did say prior to round 1 he expects Tigers to be a force in 2018
Surely we've learned a lesson from Curtis Rona.

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Post by supercoach » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 1:49 pm

We have our own versions of Mansour in Nofo and Founa. What we probably need is a tall speed machine, but our wingers at present are doing a job. Fullback and a class centre, but only if they are a big upgrade on what we have already

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Post by marzie » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 1:58 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Wed 21 Mar, 2018 1:30 pm
ku5tom wrote:
Wed 21 Mar, 2018 12:00 pm
Mansour did say prior to round 1 he expects Tigers to be a force in 2018
Surely we've learned a lesson from Curtis Rona.
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Post by Balmain Boy » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 2:21 pm

supercoach wrote:
Wed 21 Mar, 2018 1:49 pm
We have our own versions of Mansour in Nofo and Founa. What we probably need is a tall speed machine, but our wingers at present are doing a job. Fullback and a class centre, but only if they are a big upgrade on what we have already
Especially seeing we're already paying Nof more than 400k. We can't waste more money on a similar winger unless we offload Nof.

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Post by Fade To Black » Wed 21 Mar, 2018 3:02 pm

Balmain Boy wrote:
Wed 21 Mar, 2018 2:21 pm
supercoach wrote:
Wed 21 Mar, 2018 1:49 pm
We have our own versions of Mansour in Nofo and Founa. What we probably need is a tall speed machine, but our wingers at present are doing a job. Fullback and a class centre, but only if they are a big upgrade on what we have already
Especially seeing we're already paying Nof more than 400k. We can't waste more money on a similar winger unless we offload Nof.
Is that fact that Noffa is on more than $400k or just a guess?

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