Signing Suggestions & Rumours THREAD..

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Re: Signing Suggestions & Rumours THREAD..

Post by The Queen » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:49 pm

Balmain Boy wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 1:35 pm
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The salary cap for 2018 is $9.4m, which means the average for a top 25 player is $376,000. I think you have to look at what constitutes "overs" in that context - same as Brooks being on $500,000. That's close to rock bottom for any player who isn't on their rookie deal, let alone a half.
So holistically, the average salary of a squad using 100% of the cap is 313 333, with us having about 1 million left in the cap and only 28 players contracted we're at 300k overall.

Of course an 'average' player only earns 100-150k. Most of our backline would be on that currently. MWZ, Kev, Marsters, Fonua, Thompson etc would all be in this bracket. Milne, Benji too. Tui on about 400 and Nof on 450 would be the exceptions
Why do you think an average player would earn less than half the average salary?

Guesswork on my part, but I imagine most NRL squads comprise a handful of 'star' players on contracts of two or three times the average salary, a few rookies on minimum (which is just less than $100k I believe), a few retreads and reclamation projects on not much more (this is your Robbie Rochows and Matt McIlwricks - experienced players but ones not exactly in high demand), and half or more of the squad on somewhere around the 'average' salary.

What I'm getting at is that with the new, higher cap you have to recalibrate your expectations. $400-450k is not a star player wage anymore, it is - or will be - pretty much standard for a good first grade player in his prime that most clubs could use.
By average I mean not so talented. We would have Godinet, McIlwrick (maybe got a slight bump when re-signing),and the other players mentioned.

I think the Roosters have 12 of their 29 players on under 150k. We wouldn't have that many but would have a fair few. Marsters may be on a bit more than 150 but he was basically an NYC player with promise a few years ago. Now we'd be looking at re-signing him for 450k.

Kev wasn't originally re-signed. He was one of the last players to do so and was viewed largely as a nsw cup player to provide us with depth for first grade. He may have gone hard in preseason and earned a spot but you don't sign backup players for nsw cup on 250-300k....

Mansour would be looking for 500-600k most likely. He's better than what we have, but we can balance our books better by having our cheaper guys and buying some top quality stars, who we may have to pay overs for due to our limited success
Apparently Gould has said in the last week Mansour wants $600K to stay and Gould said he does not have the cash to pay that for him so looks like Mansour could end up in Bondi for one of those $150K contracts they are famously known for


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Post by happy tiger » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:56 pm

underdog wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 1:52 pm
Hang on.

Who's said Nofo is on over 400k per year?

I've heard he's on little more than half of that (200-250K)
I think it would be pretty close to 400 k , remember Parra were circling

Also he was in probably career best form when he signed last year Dawg and we'd just been rejected by the Larry , Mo and Curly

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Post by willow » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:57 pm

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Why in the world would anyone want Nathan Ross at any price?
Buggered if I know. Certainly not what we need.

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Post by PrattenParkMagpie » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 3:27 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:56 pm
underdog wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 1:52 pm
Hang on.

Who's said Nofo is on over 400k per year?

I've heard he's on little more than half of that (200-250K)
I think it would be pretty close to 400 k , remember Parra were circling

Also he was in probably career best form when he signed last year Dawg and we'd just been rejected by the Larry , Mo and Curly
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Post by Cultured Bogan » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 3:55 pm

I like Ross' enthusiasm, but we saw how bad he could be when we last played Newcastle, he had an absolute shocker.
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Post by Russell » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 4:00 pm

willow wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:57 pm
cktiger wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:38 pm
Why in the world would anyone want Nathan Ross at any price?
Buggered if I know. Certainly not what we need.
I'm with you Willow - can't see the attraction.

Can see the attraction of Mansour at a reasonable figure thou'.
He nis an Australian and SOO winger, hard to tackle, takes the hard yards and a good finisher.

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Post by WT2K » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 4:07 pm

willow wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:57 pm
cktiger wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:38 pm
Why in the world would anyone want Nathan Ross at any price?
Buggered if I know. Certainly not what we need.
Would prefer mansour at a decent price
The star of the team is the team.

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Post by avocadoontoast » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 4:13 pm

Russell wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 4:00 pm
willow wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:57 pm
cktiger wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 2:38 pm
Why in the world would anyone want Nathan Ross at any price?
Buggered if I know. Certainly not what we need.
I'm with you Willow - can't see the attraction.

Can see the attraction of Mansour at a reasonable figure thou'.
He nis an Australian and SOO winger, hard to tackle, takes the hard yards and a good finisher.
Agree re Ross. I wouldn’t want him at any price. Mansour is a good player but I’d prefer we signed someone faster and perhaps a little more vertically well endowed.

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Post by Boonboon2 » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 4:38 pm

Ross fits into the mould of outside back Cleary has looked for - Solid, hard working, great attitude and not crazy expensive. The focus is on 30 First graders whereas Roosters go for 5 stars, 13 FG and 12 genuine reserve graders

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Post by Cairnstigers » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 5:23 pm

teddy23 wrote:
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For those saying you wouldn’t pay 400k for Mansour you’re kidding yourselves.

Mansour is a NSW winger who is key to penriths attack and he can defend too, he kickstarts plays so well and takes the big runs no one wants too take, he can finish as well.

MWZ yeah he’s improving but Mansour is better and if MWZ is making such a strong case the bloke is a centre too.

Mansour and Nofa would kickstart our attack so dynamically, and he’d help our chances in bringing Nathan Cleary to the club too.....

Kevy and MWZ on $450k or a NSW representative in Mansour, I know what I’d take for the same price
Exactly
Nofo and Masour as our wingers is a great pair of wingers
Masters and ???? As our centers
Thompson at fullback if he can continue to play as he has
Maybe and just maybe if Fonoa can improve his fitness levels he could be a good damaging centre
But that's a long shot at this point

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Post by TigersBusDriver » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 5:40 pm

Cairnstigers wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 5:23 pm
teddy23 wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 1:26 pm
For those saying you wouldn’t pay 400k for Mansour you’re kidding yourselves.

Mansour is a NSW winger who is key to penriths attack and he can defend too, he kickstarts plays so well and takes the big runs no one wants too take, he can finish as well.

MWZ yeah he’s improving but Mansour is better and if MWZ is making such a strong case the bloke is a centre too.

Mansour and Nofa would kickstart our attack so dynamically, and he’d help our chances in bringing Nathan Cleary to the club too.....

Kevy and MWZ on $450k or a NSW representative in Mansour, I know what I’d take for the same price
Exactly
Nofo and Masour as our wingers is a great pair of wingers
Masters and ???? As our centers
Thompson at fullback if he can continue to play as he has
Maybe and just maybe if Fonoa can improve his fitness levels he could be a good damaging centre
But that's a long shot at this point
And Lolohea?...
How quick some of you blokes give up on players

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Post by clontarfkid » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 5:55 pm

I haven't given up on Milne OR Fonua at this early stage,either of which cld potentially contribute as much as whats available in the marketplace and theyre already on our books
Notice Fonua got MOM in ISC cup last w/e...but still looked vulnerable under high ball..and Milne,for all his potential and RLWC heroics,was not really a standout unfortunately.
Think they'll both get there in 18 sooner rather than later

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Post by wt01 » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:06 pm

sorry to change the topic, but just seing the very first post of this topic, made me wonder.......where is bodene thompson??
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Post by clontarfkid » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:12 pm

wt01 wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:06 pm
sorry to change the topic, but just seing the very first post of this topic, made me wonder.......where is bodene thompson??
,,,the answer is...well past his use by date!

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Post by wt01 » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:17 pm

clontarfkid wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:12 pm
wt01 wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:06 pm
sorry to change the topic, but just seing the very first post of this topic, made me wonder.......where is bodene thompson??
,,,the answer is...well past his use by date!
:roll ok.....all gd, i found out he was playing for centurions
thnx anyway
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Post by NT Tiger » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:35 pm

wt01 wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:17 pm
clontarfkid wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:12 pm
wt01 wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:06 pm
sorry to change the topic, but just seing the very first post of this topic, made me wonder.......where is bodene thompson??
,,,the answer is...well past his use by date!
:roll ok.....all gd, i found out he was playing for centurions
thnx anyway
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Post by Cairnstigers » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:45 pm

TigersBusDriver wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 5:40 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 5:23 pm
teddy23 wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 1:26 pm
For those saying you wouldn’t pay 400k for Mansour you’re kidding yourselves.

Mansour is a NSW winger who is key to penriths attack and he can defend too, he kickstarts plays so well and takes the big runs no one wants too take, he can finish as well.

MWZ yeah he’s improving but Mansour is better and if MWZ is making such a strong case the bloke is a centre too.

Mansour and Nofa would kickstart our attack so dynamically, and he’d help our chances in bringing Nathan Cleary to the club too.....

Kevy and MWZ on $450k or a NSW representative in Mansour, I know what I’d take for the same price
Exactly
Nofo and Masour as our wingers is a great pair of wingers
Masters and ???? As our centers
Thompson at fullback if he can continue to play as he has
Maybe and just maybe if Fonoa can improve his fitness levels he could be a good damaging centre
But that's a long shot at this point
And Lolohea?...
How quick some of you blokes give up on players
Not giving up on Lolohea at all
I named the 1 to 5
Would be happy for Lolohea to lift his game more
Thompson is certainly pushing him for the fullback spot
I think you just might see Lolohea back in the halves some time this season
But that will be a log jam if all are fit as well
It's good to have depth
If you want your spot you have to earn it this year
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Post by Go You Good Things » Thu 22 Mar, 2018 7:11 pm

NT Tiger wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:35 pm
wt01 wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:17 pm
clontarfkid wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:12 pm
wt01 wrote:
Thu 22 Mar, 2018 6:06 pm
sorry to change the topic, but just seing the very first post of this topic, made me wonder.......where is bodene thompson??
,,,the answer is...well past his use by date!
:roll ok.....all gd, i found out he was playing for centurions
thnx anyway
.......as in; 'Wewease wodger'?
LOLOL NT . .. . exactly what I thought. My friend Biggus dikkus :lol:

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