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Re: Nathan Cleary

Post by Russell » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 8:39 pm

Basically he is lucky that he is not an animal (although that is debatable).

He would then on any criteria - BE PUT DOWN!

And so say all of us!!!!


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Post by Seantice » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 9:21 pm

Lets just win games and stick it up all the media...

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Post by tiger_one » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 9:44 pm

Seantice wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 9:21 pm
Lets just win games and stick it up all the media...
That will do it!

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 9:47 pm

Russell wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 8:39 pm
Basically he is lucky that he is not an animal (although that is debatable).

He would then on any criteria - BE PUT DOWN!

And so say all of us!!!!
Who Nathan Cleary :?

Hang on , he has to sign with us , play like garbage for 2 years , want out of his contract early , join the Roosters , bag the crap out of us and leave before we can start burning effegies Russ

Jumping the gun mate

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Post by Spud Murphy » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 10:07 pm

Sabre wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 8:28 pm
bathursttiger wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 8:14 pm
Also Slothfield rubbished the Tigers for letting people know that Suli was a slack trainer, but he also said that Bryce Cartwright was a young man with a lot of personal issues and hanging around the wrong crowd.
Bags the Tigers then does the same thing to Cartwright.
No morals.
Don't know if it's a lack of morals or he's just a moron
Lack of brain cells more likely.


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Post by Russell » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 10:12 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 9:47 pm
Russell wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 8:39 pm
Basically he is lucky that he is not an animal (although that is debatable).

He would then on any criteria - BE PUT DOWN!

And so say all of us!!!!
Who Nathan Cleary :?

Hang on , he has to sign with us , play like garbage for 2 years , want out of his contract early , join the Roosters , bag the crap out of us and leave before we can start burning effegies Russ

Jumping the gun mate
Talking about the drunken sloth in the field, happy!!!! As you didn't know. Lol

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Post by Tiger Steve » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 10:13 pm

People talk of an ‘agenda’ against the Tigers. What agenda? All I see is that we have such a large fan base so controversy against us will spike a lot of interest. Is that it or is there more?
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Post by tiger_one » Sun 04 Feb, 2018 10:29 pm

Tiger Steve wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 10:13 pm
People talk of an ‘agenda’ against the Tigers. What agenda? All I see is that we have such a large fan base so controversy against us will spike a lot of interest. Is that it or is there more?
I reckon you've nailed it. The papers sell more when the Tigers are in the news, so as they say, any news is good business, especially if they can stir the pot, create controversy, and engender even more responses/sales. Simple marketing 101.

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Post by the third » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 7:12 am

Geo. wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 8:30 pm
Yet people talk about him and read his stuff...hmmmmm..
Exactly this. Yes has a small amount that is interesting and the rest garbage.

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Post by 2041 » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 7:52 am

tiger_one wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 10:29 pm
Tiger Steve wrote:
Sun 04 Feb, 2018 10:13 pm
People talk of an ‘agenda’ against the Tigers. What agenda? All I see is that we have such a large fan base so controversy against us will spike a lot of interest. Is that it or is there more?
I reckon you've nailed it. The papers sell more when the Tigers are in the news, so as they say, any news is good business, especially if they can stir the pot, create controversy, and engender even more responses/sales. Simple marketing 101.
Rothfield's agenda is to make sure someone is in front of the Sharks in the queue to be pushed out of Sydney - either by relocation or expulsion from the comp. He's completely conflicted (as a Sharks fan, I mean - not, on this occasion at least, the fact that he's massively in hock to Eddie Hayson), which makes him fundamentally unsuitable to be a legitimate correspondent.

Every time you read his stuff remember that he's trying to maneuvre a non-Sharks club into being the most likely to be folded or moved. As the weakest Sydney team on- and off-field for several years he's got the Tigers right in his sights - if the Tigers were performing better he'd probably just line up Souths.

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Post by Seantice » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 12:51 pm

your right about slothfield.

On topic I was curious about what to offer Nathan for next contract. We are a top chance with his father being here.
Should we do a north qld and offer him a ten year deal? The kid will only improve and is already very consistent. Be interesting at the end of the year.

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Post by jadtiger » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 1:02 pm

Seantice wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 12:51 pm
your right about slothfield.

On topic I was curious about what to offer Nathan for next contract. We are a top chance with his father being here.
Should we do a north qld and offer him a ten year deal? The kid will only improve and is already very consistent. Be interesting at the end of the year.
I really dont like very long deals like that it never seems to work.4 years is about the most i would offer and only to players under 25 anyone older max 3 years

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Post by Tigerdon » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 1:08 pm

Matthew Johns reveals Phil Gould’s hidden reason for releasing Penrith Panthers stars
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February 5, 2018 11:30am
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BRYCE Cartwright has joined Matt Moylan in Penrith’s star-studded off-season departure lounge as the Panthers’ roster transformation continues at whirlwind pace.
Considering both were signed on with the club until the end of 2021, the moves symbolise a somewhat alarming rethink of the roster strategy to win the club an elusive first premiership under the club’s high profile general manager Phil Gould.

The decisions to release both those players had off-field issues at their core but Matthew Johns also sees their departures as the culmination of a call to leave no stone unturned to keep Nathan Cleary at Penrith long-term.

Still just 20, Cleary has had a phenomenal rise to stardom in his first two years at NRL level and Johns says his decision last year to knock back a lucrative long-term contract extension tabled by the Panthers was a light bulb moment for Gould.

“The other thing I think Gus knows is the money they’re going to have to spend to keep Nathan Cleary is a lot more than they first thought — because they offered him a pretty big contract recently and he didn’t sign on, he didn’t extend,” Johns said on Triple M’s The Grill Team.

“So he’s in for a big pay day when he next signs a contract.”

Cleary is tied to Penrith until the end of the 2019 season but the Panthers knew very early that tying him up long-term had to be a priority or it could cost them dearly.

When he was still 19 Gould pitched a deal to keep him at the club until the end of the 2022 season. It was reported to be worth roughly $3 million.

Gould can be a tough man to say no to but Cleary backed himself to continue to improve and as it stands his next contract will be worth a lot more than that — more than likely it will be significantly more than $1 million-a-season.

To make an offer like that the Panthers needed to start clearing the decks — Moylan, Cartwright and Leiulani Latu have since been released and Tyrone Peachey is expected to be next to go despite a contract with Penrith that doesn’t expire until the end of next season.

It all adds up to a war chest that will ensure the Panthers can put together a massive offer to make Cleary the face of the franchise for the next decade if they choose to.

That’s the financial side of things taken care of but Johns says what they do on the field this year will also play a big role in Cleary’s decision, with the young halfback set to become a free agent on November 1 this year.

“Big year coming up for Penrith because if they do finish top four and threaten and get close to a title, I think that will convince Nathan to stay,” Johns said.

“If it’s a disappointing season it might make it very easy for him to walk out and join his dad at the Wests Tigers.”

Speculation that Cleary will move clubs to join his father started when Ivan first took the job last year and the coach has thrown fuel on the fire with some provocative comments about that prospect when he was interviewed by NRL.com last year.

“Basically we’re both coming to the opinion that we’d like to play together. It’s just a question of timing really,” Cleary Snr said in November last year.


“He’s still got two years to go at the Panthers and I think that’s good for him. He’s not in a hurry to decide that, but we both realise that this situation is a pretty unique opportunity.

“I was always conscious of never wanting to put him in a position that compromises him being up front.

“But the further (his career) is going I’m getting more confident it won’t be a problem. But we’re not thinking about it too much right now. Probably in 12 months time it will be more relevant.”

Gould was peeved by those comments and it’s forced him into action, with Garth Brennan’s appointment at the Titans smoothing the way for players to be moved off Penrith’s books.

Brennan has established relationships with many of the Panthers players he coached in the lower grades and the lines of communication between him and his old club have been open ever since he signed to succeed axed former coach Neil Henry.

“What’s interesting with Garth Brennan is he’s brought a lot of these young guys at Penrith through,” Johns said.


“And obviously they love him because Leilani Latu’s gone up to the Gold Coast, Tyrone Peachey is going up to the Gold Coast next year...”

Brennan’s extremely close relationship with Cartwright also convinced Gould that was the place to put the wayward youngster.

“This was the story that was brewing just before Christmas, that Phil Gould was keen for Garth Brennan to take Bryce Cartwright to the Gold Coast because Gus believed that Bryce needed to very quickly, as soon as possible, get himself out of Sydney because he’d found himself in an unhealthy rut and that he wasn’t going to be able to reach his potential out at Penrith and he wanted him out of Sydney,” Johns said.
Ivan "Billy Beane from Moneyball" Cleary!
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Post by Sunnycoast tiger » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 2:04 pm

Let's just say, Nathan Cleary resigns with Penrith mid-year and Brooks fails this year. Who do we look at??

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Post by 2041 » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 2:28 pm

junior05 wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 2:04 pm
Let's just say, Nathan Cleary resigns with Penrith mid-year and Brooks fails this year. Who do we look at??
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Post by Seantice » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 2:46 pm

Brock Lamb.

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Post by Telltails » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 2:53 pm

The schemeing Gould always thinking ahead.... must have ruled out that father and son would want to be together at the one club when he showed Ivan the door.
Might be clearing the decks to make the big play for Nathan, but may also need some heavy artillery to try and lure his father back as well. How sweet it would be if he outsmarted himself.
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Post by Seantice » Mon 05 Feb, 2018 2:57 pm

Telltails wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 2:53 pm
The schemeing Gould always thinking ahead.... must have ruled out that father and son would want to be together at the one club when he showed Ivan the door.
Might be clearing the decks to make the big play for Nathan, but may also need some heavy arterial to try and lure his father back as well. How sweet it would be if he outsmarted himself.
If he loses moylan, cartwright and Cleary he will have overseen one of the worst recruitment strategies ever. Cleary is worth building a team around. But you have to be gauranteed hel stay. Which he wont. I bet he offers cleary 6 mil for a 5 year deal.

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