Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

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Post by smoking gun » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:13 am

Also I don’t believe Ivan will coach Nathan long term. So even if Nathan signs with Penrith for his next deal does not mean Ivan will leave after this deal. I more see them teaming up in 4-5 years not 2


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Post by jadtiger » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:16 am

hobbo wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:10 am
Geo. wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:00 am
Tiger Steve wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 9:04 am
momo&medo wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 8:59 am


100% right
Kent emphatically stated that Ivan was Gone. $1.01 was the betting price he mentioned. These blokes are just throwing darts
Miss information huh...


Was a good press conference..
Meh ....
Read from a pre- prepared statement
Looked rattled
Your usual negative response when it comes to Cleary

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Post by Snake » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:17 am

weststigerman wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:08 am
Hope I'm wrong, but it sounds to me like N Cleary will sign long term with Panthers and in 2021 Ivan will say for family reasons he's going back to Penrith.

Time will tell, but don't really trust Ivan after this week.
Give it a rest , you are talking about 2 yrs time the world could of ended by then or the Tigers could of been relocated to N Korea with Kimjong the new owner ... You can only take what has been said as true ..

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Post by hobbo » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:17 am

momo&medo wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:12 am
hobbo wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:10 am
Geo. wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:00 am
Tiger Steve wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 9:04 am

Kent emphatically stated that Ivan was Gone. $1.01 was the betting price he mentioned. These blokes are just throwing darts
Miss information huh...


Was a good press conference..
Meh ....
Read from a pre- prepared statement
Looked rattled
And how would you look after a week like that Mr Hobo?
Another nothing person for you I suppose.
He should’ve nipped it in the bud earlier in the week ..

What was the hold up ?
We need mongrel ..
No more plodders !

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Post by The Queen » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:17 am

Tweed Tiger wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:00 am
Hooper started this whole drama which is unsurprising using his nameless sources but he will walk away with a fatter wallet and no mud on his face.
There is a good video on YouTube when Denzel Washington is taking to the press giving it to them and he says

...You guys don't care about if it's true or not you just want to be first and don't care who's life's you hurt ...


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Post by hobbo » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:18 am

Tweed Tiger wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:12 am
Hobbo R U OK?
I’m fine thanks !!
We need mongrel ..
No more plodders !

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Post by Dan Blanco » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:19 am

Good result imo. Can't please some people.

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Post by Telltails » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:22 am

So the offer Penrith made to someone and they are waiting for an answer is .... not Ivan Cleary!
Lots of versions of the truth - and if there was never an offer why on earth did we get to this point?
If its over all well and good, but I doubt this is the last of it and quite frankly it will continue to be an unwelcome distraction for everyone.

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Post by Snake » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:22 am

Can someone post a link as I am OS atm thanks

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Post by momo&medo » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:23 am

hobbo wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:17 am
momo&medo wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:12 am
hobbo wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:10 am
Geo. wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:00 am


Miss information huh...


Was a good press conference..
Meh ....
Read from a pre- prepared statement
Looked rattled
And how would you look after a week like that Mr Hobo?
Another nothing person for you I suppose.
He should’ve nipped it in the bud earlier in the week ..

What was the hold up ?
Really need to repeat. Club asked him!

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Post by Bula » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:23 am

Time for Smoking Gun to stop firing blanks. Reckons he is in the know at the club. On Wednesday he had the inside goss on Penrith paying for our next coach and giving us players. Needs to change his name to Dirty Diaper.

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Post by Earl » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:27 am

smoking gun wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:09 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 9:59 am
So he wants to coach his son. Does that mean he’ll be chasing him for 2020?
About 6 weeks ago tigers offered in an informal discussion Reynolds or Brooks for Cleary to get Nathan for 2019. My feeling this is what prompted Penrith into action. If Nathan leaves, Penrith will want something in return so high chance he will be released from final year if that’s indeed what he wants.
Is this really true ? I mean Reynolds I can understand but Brooks doesn't make sense to me.

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Post by Snake » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:27 am

Telltails wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:22 am
So the offer Penrith made to someone and they are waiting for an answer is .... not Ivan Cleary!
Lots of versions of the truth - and if there was never an offer why on earth did we get to this point?
If its over all well and good, but I doubt this is the last of it and quite frankly it will continue to be an unwelcome distraction for everyone.
Isn’t this the situation with all coaches non of them have employment security , this will only be a problem if the public or Jurnos do not leave it alone ... personally IC has stated he will see his contract out for me this saga has ended . I want to
Know who is coming next season and if there are any changes to the coaching or wider support team moving forward.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:28 am

I still wouldn’t rule him out being there next year. A lot can happen between now and the start of the off season.

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Post by Ken Y » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:29 am

So why does a smart bloke like Cleary not address this on Tuesday morning instead of Saturday morning.... the whole situation would not have had so much time to fester.

He says he spoke with the chair and ceo about the approach yet no offer was made.....

I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle

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Post by Muffstar » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:30 am

Ok so make a contract extension to Ivan and see how he responds. If he extends then there is a good chance Nathan may come. If he does not then he will more than likely leave.

The reason for doing this is to gauge his commitment and also should Ivan be involved in driving recruitment going forward since he went be here.

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Post by Snake » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:31 am

Bula wrote:
Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:23 am
Time for Smoking Gun to stop firing blanks. Reckons he is in the know at the club. On Wednesday he had the inside goss on Penrith paying for our next coach and giving us players. Needs to change his name to Dirty Diaper.
Mr gun I think we all have had enough of un factual posts and comments for one week.

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Post by Tiger_Fan18 » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 10:31 am

Ivan Cleary has vowed to honour his contract with Wests Tigers and rejected suggestions he had done a secret deal to return to Penrith.

Cleary fronted the media on Saturday morning at Campbelltown Leagues Club, the first time he has spoken publicly following revelations he was the Panthers’ preference to replace sacked coach Anthony Griffin.

The Tigers mentor confirmed he had met with Penrith chairman David O’Neill, but said he had no idea they would be discussing potential return to the foot of the mountains.

Cleary is one of the most composed clipboard holders in the NRL, but was visibly nervous when reading a statement he prepared. He declined to take any other questions during an awkward pre-game press conference that lasted just five minutes. “I’ve been very disappointed with the amount of misinformation surrounding myself and my family this week,” Cleary read from his prepared statement.

“I intend to make this statement to clarify my position and following this statement I will not be taking any questions further on this matter.

“When I was approached by the Panthers, initially I had no idea it was about coaching their club.

“I was told at that meeting that the club was looking at the future of the head coaching position. I advised the Panthers of my ongoing contract status with Wests Tigers.

I subsequently advised the chair and the CEO of Wests Tigers of the discussions I had had with the Panthers.

“I was as surprised as anyone at the announcement of the dismissal of Anthony Griffin.

“I have not received any offer from the Panthers, nor have I asked the Wests Tigers for a release.

“I am enjoying my contribution at this club. The club is growing nicely, everyone associated with this club should be proud of the direction it’s heading in. I’m privileged to be part of this journey and respect the contract I have with Wests Tigers.

“I respect all of the people and supporters involved with this club and intend to honour this contract.

“It is common knowledge that my son, Nathan and I, have acknowledged our desire to work together at some time. That remains the case.

“Today I’m absolutely focused on our match against the Canberra Raiders and am happy to take questions around that game.”

Asked to confirm he would be staying put - Cleary is contracted until the end of 2020 - he replied: “I’m honouring my contract.”

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