Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

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Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Post by mtd » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:42 pm

Has anyone heard the news today?
Massive.
Didn't think it would happen like this.


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Post by NT Tiger » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:56 pm

TIGERPOWER wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:11 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 2:06 pm
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 1:52 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 1:45 pm


Missed it by that much. Context is everything. Read it again. In the conversation, Pascoe is referring to his relationship with Cleary when he says "he compromised that". So Pascoe never says Cleary compromised his position at the tigers, even if it does suit certain agendas on this forum.
So speaking to the Panthers only compromised their personal relationship? that makes no sense. Why would he need to put the tigers first if the tigers werent compromised. Thats Pascoes own words. The whole world has an agenda against Cleary lol. Its so obvious he is only here because legally he has to be. Why would we want to have someone coach us like that.

‘‘It’s the Wests Tigers before our friendship,’’ Pascoe said. ‘‘Yeah we have a close relationship, but we need to be pragmatic and professional. Once he [Ivan Cleary] talked to Penrith, he compromised that and I had to put the Tigers first.
You don't need to quote it again, I know what it says and what it means.
Ivan Cleary talked to Penrith the exact content of which I don't know. Something in the circumstances of Ivan talking to Penrith, compromised his close relationship with Pascoe.
Pascoe has put the Tigers first, presumably by making it clear to Ivan that there was no chance of a release from his contract.
Hmmmm, Oh I get it, putting the WT first must mean Pascoe thinks that making Ivan stay to the completion of his contract is what he thinks is best for the Wests Tigers. This is so, even though his relationship with Ivan has been compromised.
Ok I'll go with that.
So you just agreed that a) Ivan met with Penrith and b) their friendship (therefore the tigers) was compromised by most likely as you stated him asking for a release. Well that’s what im saying.....

You confused me with your second part of your argument. So can’t really respond to it.
Yes, surprise, surprise, I agreed that (according to media reports) a) Ivan met with the Panthers. He openly admitted as much. Major scoop there.
The next bit b) is where either your comprehension drops off, or your agenda kicks in, or both.
Justin Pascoe makes a clear distinction between his friendship with Ivan and his professional relationship with him through the WT. You cannot simply assume that because Justin Pascoe says his personal relationship with Ivan was compromised, he also means that Ivan's professional relationship was compromised. That's not what Pascoe said. So no I don't agree with your grand assumption there.
I did not state anywhere, anything about "him asking for a release". Another of your assumptions. Remember, Pascoe has said publicly that Ivan has not yet asked for a release.
As for the last bit that you found confusing, I'm not surprised. You seem to be pretty confused about the whole thing in general. But don't let that get in the way of your agenda.
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Post by NT Tiger » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:58 pm

mtd wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:42 pm
Has anyone heard the news today?
Massive.
Didn't think it would happen like this.
News? Do tell.
"Quality Stupidity"

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Post by bp tiger » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:05 pm

NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:58 pm
mtd wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:42 pm
Has anyone heard the news today?
Massive.
Didn't think it would happen like this.
News? Do tell.
IAM ALL EARS, SO SPILL THE BEANS.

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Post by momo&medo » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:06 pm

NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:58 pm
mtd wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:42 pm
Has anyone heard the news today?
Massive.
Didn't think it would happen like this.
News? Do tell.
you'll be waiting long time!


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Post by Tcat » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:07 pm

bp tiger wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:05 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:58 pm
mtd wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 3:42 pm
Has anyone heard the news today?
Massive.
Didn't think it would happen like this.
News? Do tell.
IAM ALL EARS, SO SPILL THE BEANS.
Was it the sun setting in the west?

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Post by Russell » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:08 pm

NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 1:45 pm
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 1:33 pm
When half the forum was blowing up at Ivan Cleary, the other half suggested to calm the farm as we dont know what has happened. i cant believe what Pascoe has said has been so conveniently missed by most on here and swept under the carpet;

‘‘ Once he [Ivan Cleary] talked to Penrith, he compromised that and I had to put the Tigers first.

PASCOE specifically stating that Ivan Cleary comprised his position at the tigers by talking to Penrith. we dont need to guess anymore, we dont need to blame gus or the media that is all out to get us. Its there in black and white. For all those still sticking up for the guy i find it so bewildering. The guy has no integrity , would have walked out on us that week if we let him and people still have their head in the sand. The guy is a fake and should be no where near our team next year.
Missed it by that much. Context is everything. Read it again. In the conversation, Pascoe is referring to his relationship with Cleary when he says "he compromised that". So Pascoe never says Cleary compromised his position at the tigers, even if it does suit certain agendas on this forum.
Exactly NT - context is everything - but take it out of context if it fits your argument.

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Post by Russell » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:11 pm

TIGERPOWER wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 1:54 pm
The Queen wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 1:46 pm
I ran into Moses Mbye on the weekend asked him if Clearly is staying he said he doesn't know either way ...I find it terrible that he doesn't know so that's two players in the space of a week that doesn't know or can not answer the question


Then I asked him what his opinion of Brett Hodgson is he spoke very highly of him and said he is going to be a great first grade Coach I did not ask about Brett coaching first grade that was his Moses words

He also said Josh Reynolds is in Melbourne getting rehab on his shoulder

Moses is such a nice man so friendly and well spoken

Body language ha ha ha when I ask about Cleary he took a step back when I asked about Hodgson he took a step forward and smiled
Thansk for your continued updates. THis circus wont end until IVan comes out without a written statement and says what his intentions are. has he signed an agreement with panthers in 2021? what did he and the panthers talk about? This is worse than the JT/Farah saga.
Crap TP - what an agenda you have.

Cleary and the Tigers have a contract for the next two years - get over it!!!! Lol

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:24 pm

If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.

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Post by 851 » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:31 pm

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Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:24 pm
If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.
So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
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Post by GNR4LIFE » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:37 pm

851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:31 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:24 pm
If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.
So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
I don't care either way whether he stays or goes, so i'm not losing sleep over it, no.

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Post by Snake » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:40 pm

851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:31 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:24 pm
If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.
So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !

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Post by NT Tiger » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:45 pm

Russell wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:08 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 1:45 pm
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 1:33 pm
When half the forum was blowing up at Ivan Cleary, the other half suggested to calm the farm as we dont know what has happened. i cant believe what Pascoe has said has been so conveniently missed by most on here and swept under the carpet;

‘‘ Once he [Ivan Cleary] talked to Penrith, he compromised that and I had to put the Tigers first.

PASCOE specifically stating that Ivan Cleary comprised his position at the tigers by talking to Penrith. we dont need to guess anymore, we dont need to blame gus or the media that is all out to get us. Its there in black and white. For all those still sticking up for the guy i find it so bewildering. The guy has no integrity , would have walked out on us that week if we let him and people still have their head in the sand. The guy is a fake and should be no where near our team next year.
Missed it by that much. Context is everything. Read it again. In the conversation, Pascoe is referring to his relationship with Cleary when he says "he compromised that". So Pascoe never says Cleary compromised his position at the tigers, even if it does suit certain agendas on this forum.
Exactly NT - context is everything - but take it out of context if it fits your argument.
Where have I taken it out of context?
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Post by innsaneink » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:50 pm

851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:31 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:24 pm
If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.
So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
clutching big time

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Post by 851 » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:52 pm

Snake wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:40 pm
851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:31 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:24 pm
If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.
So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !
No mate, Brooks when asked last week said he didn't know who was coaching the team next year, Mbye when asked on the weekend said the same thing, that to me is rather disturbing and needs addressing.
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Post by 851 » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:53 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:50 pm
851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:31 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:24 pm
If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.
So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
clutching big time
Clutching at what, you have an opinion, so do I, doesn't make one of us right or wrong, or doesn't mean I take pot shots at you, not yet any way
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Post by innsaneink » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:56 pm

851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:52 pm
Snake wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:40 pm
851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:31 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:24 pm
If he's staying, he doesn't need to say anything, he's already addressed it. But then again. one statement isnt good enough for a lot of you. The club and/or coaches position has to be clarified over and over.
So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !
No mate, Brooks when asked last week said he didn't know who was coaching the team next year, Mbye when asked on the weekend said the same thing, that to me is rather disturbing and needs addressing.
No...he didnt say that
Why to you continue to lie and fabricate things?

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Post by 851 » Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:59 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:56 pm
851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:52 pm
Snake wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:40 pm
851 wrote:
Mon 24 Sep, 2018 4:31 pm


So the fact Brooks and Mbye don't even know who is coaching the team next year sits well with you, well it doesn't sit well with me, that needs in your words, to be addressed :crazy
I thought Cleary was coaching next season have I missed something not heard anything! My read if nothing is stated it is Fake News !
No mate, Brooks when asked last week said he didn't know who was coaching the team next year, Mbye when asked on the weekend said the same thing, that to me is rather disturbing and needs addressing.
No...he didnt say that
Why to you continue to lie and fabricate things?
I am not fabricating things and I am not partaking in any more dialogue with you, you are too annoying
Go hard or go home

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