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Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:23 pm
by TonyTiger
Surely Ivan has brought the club into disrepute and is now deemed a conflict of interest. We should have rights to sack him without recourse - once the panthers have appointed a coach.

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:24 pm
by innsaneink
TonyTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:13 pm
akpinareren1 wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 7:42 pm
I’m so confused why everyones so outraged. Nothing has happened so far. Ivan hasn’t signed with the panthers for 2021 yet. We signed him for two more years so why is everyone already assuming he’ll definitely be gone. Its like us complaining corey thompson is ‘definitely’ leaving us when his contract ends.
Pull you head out of the sand.
Okpinarient... It makes recruitment very difficult for us in the next few years... Players wanna know who the coach is... They don't wanna know a coach will be leaving soon

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:27 pm
by UKTiger
The whole thing is just a massive mess.

Gus has just been Gus, why anybody after everything that 'appears' to have gone on would want to work under him beats me. The desperation to hold on to NC is quite funny really, that's what its all about at the end of the day.

Wait two years for IC
Put a caretaker coach in charge until he arrives.
IC arrives...yey
Penrith don't make the top eight
Gus is isn't happy and starts eyeing up another coach
They then unethically approach said coach
IC is sacked (again by Gus)
NC is unhappy and wants to leave!

I suppose they get to keep NC for another two years though.

I don't agree with people that say IC could still coach the Tigers for the next two years. His eye would always be on the Panthers, stand out players at the Tigers could be getting tapped up for the Panthers.
I also don't agree with having a future coach working along side him, what would be the point? If he does want to go replace him and take the compo.

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:27 pm
by Geo.
TonyTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:23 pm
Surely Ivan has brought the club into disrepute and is now deemed a conflict of interest. We should have rights to sack him without recourse - once the panthers have appointed a coach.
If we sack him..no compensation from Penrith..they will appoint Ciraldo with bee sting promising to look after him wink wink...move him to assistant ....and let Cleary waltz in..not a good plan..

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:28 pm
by Yossarian
The Panthers are starting to look a bit unhinged. N Cleary is a fine player but putting all your eggs in one basket and then making your coaching strategy based on who his father is seems barmy enough. To go into a holding pattern for 2 years to accomplish this is crazy. If this was our plan I'd be shaking my head.

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:30 pm
by TYGA
Make him stay either way no release. If we have to pay Madge and Cleary make Penrith wait. 2 years is a long time in Rugby League Panthers won’t want to wait.

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:31 pm
by Dan Blanco
Ivan should/will honour his contract.

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:43 pm
by LeichhardtTiger
NOVEMBER NOVEMBER NOVEMBER - No team can negotiate with an off contract player from another team until then. IC knows that. Penrith jumped the Gun sacking Griffen. IC wouldn't go back to Penrith unless Gould is gonski! Huth tipped it when he said, in reference to Nathan coming to the Tigers: "It might still happen!" This has been the most covert NRL operation since Superleague! I reckon the Bus is on Silent Running!

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:50 pm
by NT Tiger
LeichhardtTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:43 pm
NOVEMBER NOVEMBER NOVEMBER - No team can negotiate with an off contract player from another team until then. IC knows that. Penrith jumped the Gun sacking Griffen. IC wouldn't go back to Penrith unless Gould is gonski! Huth tipped it when he said, in reference to Nathan coming to the Tigers: "It might still happen!" This has been the most covert NRL operation since Superleague! I reckon the Bus is on Silent Running!
Hmmm a stealth bus?

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:52 pm
by TigerTiger
LeichhardtTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:43 pm
NOVEMBER NOVEMBER NOVEMBER - No team can negotiate with an off contract player from another team until then. IC knows that. Penrith jumped the Gun sacking Griffen. IC wouldn't go back to Penrith unless Gould is gonski! Huth tipped it when he said, in reference to Nathan coming to the Tigers: "It might still happen!" This has been the most covert NRL operation since Superleague! I reckon the Bus is on Silent Running!
So IC went under cover to flush Gus out... wow, he would be the greatest Wests Tiger in history if he did that (after Benji, and maybe Robbie too).

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:53 pm
by Hbom
Yossarian wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:28 pm
The Panthers are starting to look a bit unhinged. N Cleary is a fine player but putting all your eggs in one basket and then making your coaching strategy based on who his father is seems barmy enough. To go into a holding pattern for 2 years to accomplish this is crazy. If this was our plan I'd be shaking my head.
Exactly. For those skimming, this is the post to read.

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:55 pm
by vlad
LeichhardtTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:43 pm
NOVEMBER NOVEMBER NOVEMBER - No team can negotiate with an off contract player from another team until then. IC knows that. Penrith jumped the Gun sacking Griffen. IC wouldn't go back to Penrith unless Gould is gonski! Huth tipped it when he said, in reference to Nathan coming to the Tigers: "It might still happen!" This has been the most covert NRL operation since Superleague! I reckon the Bus is on Silent Running!
ivan’s Ultimate revenge on Gus ? That would be delicious .

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:06 pm
by kafta
UKTiger wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:27 pm
The whole thing is just a massive mess.

Gus has just been Gus, why anybody after everything that 'appears' to have gone on would want to work under him beats me. The desperation to hold on to NC is quite funny really, that's what its all about at the end of the day.

Wait two years for IC
Put a caretaker coach in charge until he arrives.
IC arrives...yey
Penrith don't make the top eight
Gus is isn't happy and starts eyeing up another coach
They then unethically approach said coach
IC is sacked (again by Gus)
NC is unhappy and wants to leave!

I suppose they get to keep NC for another two years though.

I don't agree with people that say IC could still coach the Tigers for the next two years. His eye would always be on the Panthers, stand out players at the Tigers could be getting tapped up for the Panthers.
I also don't agree with having a future coach working along side him, what would be the point? If he does want to go replace him and take the compo.
Great post mate, my exact thoughts also.

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:09 pm
by Red Rugby
Ivan Cleary has no plans to jump off Tigers’ bus, will commit future to club on Saturday

David Riccio Daily Telegraph

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:14 pm
by WT2K
Red Rugby wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:09 pm
Ivan Cleary has no plans to jump off Tigers’ bus, will commit future to club on Saturday

David Riccio Daily Telegraph
Everyone, delete your IC out posts :lol:

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:15 pm
by gallagher
:roll
WT2K wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:14 pm
Red Rugby wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:09 pm
Ivan Cleary has no plans to jump off Tigers’ bus, will commit future to club on Saturday

David Riccio Daily Telegraph
Everyone, delete your IC out posts :lol:

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:27 pm
by old man tiger
gallagher wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:15 pm
:roll
WT2K wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:14 pm
Red Rugby wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:09 pm
Ivan Cleary has no plans to jump off Tigers’ bus, will commit future to club on Saturday

David Riccio Daily Telegraph
Everyone, delete your IC out posts :lol:
What posts?? My dog hacked my account.

Enjoyed letting rip, I'm a fan and member not a CEO! people get offended too easily and then righteous if they are right. No fun.

Re: Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

Posted: Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:28 pm
by foreveratiger
WT2K wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:14 pm
Red Rugby wrote:
Fri 10 Aug, 2018 9:09 pm
Ivan Cleary has no plans to jump off Tigers’ bus, will commit future to club on Saturday

David Riccio Daily Telegraph
Everyone, delete your IC out posts :lol:
Love your humour :lol: .

On a serious note the only way he can fix this mess is if he extends the current deal his on if not he will be going in 2 years anyway .
Ivan is probably hoping the Tigers will release him if they realise his going in 2 years anyway.
I still want him gone .