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Re: Luke Brooks

Post by The Patriot » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:53 pm

Tigerdon wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:30 pm
The Patriot wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 8:38 pm
WT2K wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 8:10 pm
Here's how Luke compared from season 2017 to 2018.
They are great stats.

Shows he is moving in the right direction. His control of a game and big match moments still need some work but he sure improved under a better pack and the coach asking more of him.
How do you measure "control" or "game management". Can you use stats on elements of his play or is that just someone's opinion?

Its a good question. Im not really sure but for me its measured by feeling comfortable watching a game and seeing a level of control and composure.
Its an opinion!


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Post by goldcoast tiger » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:59 pm

jadtiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:23 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:08 am
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Tue 04 Dec, 2018 6:51 am
Likely to benefit from having a professional coach who is interested in developing him, rather than one who seems better suited to the under 10’s, given his obsession with having his son in the side
Hope that Madge has a different way of handling Brooks than he did with his half at Souths, he made a catch and pass robot out of Reynolds, and it wasn’t till Seibold rescued him that he started to show his real ability again last season,
4 million (if that’s right) will bring a lot of pressure on Luke and I hope
That he handles that well.

While I think he’s better now than previously, I still think that he’s not worth that sort of money( he’s not the only one that isn’t worth that money though) it’s not his fault that we are paying overs, but the worse part of the deal is that we are relying on backloading to do it,(if that’s what’s happening)
I hope he kills it, but if it doesn’t work out, it could get messy; as it has here before.
I thought that we’d learnt our lesson on back ending.
Apparently Not!
You are guessing that it is a backloaded contract that the club has agreed to.Not a good idea imho
No I’m not guessing about the back loading , just going on what it said in the report that I read when it was announced, if it is true then we have learnt bugger all.

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Post by Geo. » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:04 pm

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:59 pm
jadtiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:23 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:08 am
Harvey wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 6:51 am
Likely to benefit from having a professional coach who is interested in developing him, rather than one who seems better suited to the under 10’s, given his obsession with having his son in the side
Hope that Madge has a different way of handling Brooks than he did with his half at Souths, he made a catch and pass robot out of Reynolds, and it wasn’t till Seibold rescued him that he started to show his real ability again last season,
4 million (if that’s right) will bring a lot of pressure on Luke and I hope
That he handles that well.

While I think he’s better now than previously, I still think that he’s not worth that sort of money( he’s not the only one that isn’t worth that money though) it’s not his fault that we are paying overs, but the worse part of the deal is that we are relying on backloading to do it,(if that’s what’s happening)
I hope he kills it, but if it doesn’t work out, it could get messy; as it has here before.
I thought that we’d learnt our lesson on back ending.
Apparently Not!
You are guessing that it is a backloaded contract that the club has agreed to.Not a good idea imho
No I’m not guessing about the back loading , just going on what it said in the report that I read when it was announced, if it is true then we have learnt bugger all.
What did the reporter say..?
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by innsaneink » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:08 pm

Geo. wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:37 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:23 pm
What the hell are receipts?
I don't play SC
Means touching the ball..ie how many times he received it..
Thank you.
Does this stat apply to every position?

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:15 pm

Geo. wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:04 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:59 pm
jadtiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:23 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:08 am


Hope that Madge has a different way of handling Brooks than he did with his half at Souths, he made a catch and pass robot out of Reynolds, and it wasn’t till Seibold rescued him that he started to show his real ability again last season,
4 million (if that’s right) will bring a lot of pressure on Luke and I hope
That he handles that well.

While I think he’s better now than previously, I still think that he’s not worth that sort of money( he’s not the only one that isn’t worth that money though) it’s not his fault that we are paying overs, but the worse part of the deal is that we are relying on backloading to do it,(if that’s what’s happening)
I hope he kills it, but if it doesn’t work out, it could get messy; as it has here before.
I thought that we’d learnt our lesson on back ending.
Apparently Not!
You are guessing that it is a backloaded contract that the club has agreed to.Not a good idea imho
No I’m not guessing about the back loading , just going on what it said in the report that I read when it was announced, if it is true then we have learnt bugger all.
What did the reporter say..?

“it was 0n a backended contract”


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Post by WT2K » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:21 pm

Didn't pascoe say earlier in the year that we wouldn't be backending contracts anymore?
No more plodders!
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Post by Geo. » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:29 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:08 pm
Geo. wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:37 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:23 pm
What the hell are receipts?
I don't play SC
Means touching the ball..ie how many times he received it..
Thank you.
Does this stat apply to every position?
Yeah ..you can get them...Obviously your Hooker Half and 5/8 generally touch the ball the most..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
happy tiger wrote:
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:17 am
OK I was wrong
happy tiger wrote:
Thu 22 Nov, 2018 12:13 am
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Post by Geo. » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:29 pm

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:15 pm
Geo. wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:04 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:59 pm
jadtiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:23 am


You are guessing that it is a backloaded contract that the club has agreed to.Not a good idea imho
No I’m not guessing about the back loading , just going on what it said in the report that I read when it was announced, if it is true then we have learnt bugger all.
What did the reporter say..?

“it was 0n a backended contract”
Can you post the article..?

This is odd considering your stance on the media during the Voldermort saga yet seem to have taken this as gospel..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
happy tiger wrote:
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:17 am
OK I was wrong
happy tiger wrote:
Thu 22 Nov, 2018 12:13 am
I know at times I'm not always the brightest light in the kitchen

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Post by Nelson » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:30 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:08 pm
Geo. wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:37 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:23 pm
What the hell are receipts?
I don't play SC
Means touching the ball..ie how many times he received it..
Thank you.
Does this stat apply to every position?
Yes. It's included in the champion data stats, not sure about other sites.

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Post by jadtiger » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:31 pm

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:15 pm
Geo. wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 10:04 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:59 pm
jadtiger wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:23 am


You are guessing that it is a backloaded contract that the club has agreed to.Not a good idea imho
No I’m not guessing about the back loading , just going on what it said in the report that I read when it was announced, if it is true then we have learnt bugger all.
What did the reporter say..?

“it was 0n a backended contract”
I found the article.It was written in the telegraph so as far as i am concerned it would be fiction.

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Post by softlaw » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:17 pm

Noting that the nrl have said they aren't registering backloaded contracts anymore...
Madgic!

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Post by Seantice » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:37 pm

softlaw wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:17 pm
Noting that the nrl have said they aren't registering backloaded contracts anymore...
Back loading Brooks makes no sense at all. We have money in the cap. The only reason you back load is because your salary cap is nearly used up.

This is only a guess but I think he'd be on 900k.

750k from the cap and 150k TPA.. That makes sense and still gives us money to play with .

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Post by Balmainian » Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:53 pm

The Patriot wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:53 pm
Tigerdon wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:30 pm
The Patriot wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 8:38 pm
WT2K wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 8:10 pm
Here's how Luke compared from season 2017 to 2018.
They are great stats.

Shows he is moving in the right direction. His control of a game and big match moments still need some work but he sure improved under a better pack and the coach asking more of him.
How do you measure "control" or "game management". Can you use stats on elements of his play or is that just someone's opinion?

Its a good question. Im not really sure but for me its measured by feeling comfortable watching a game and seeing a level of control and composure.
Agree with you patriot!
Bang on, the best example was Cronk in the grandfinal.

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Post by hammertime » Wed 05 Dec, 2018 12:14 am

Seantice wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:37 pm
softlaw wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:17 pm
Noting that the nrl have said they aren't registering backloaded contracts anymore...
Back loading Brooks makes no sense at all. We have money in the cap. The only reason you back load is because your salary cap is nearly used up.

This is only a guess but I think he'd be on 900k.

750k from the cap and 150k TPA.. That makes sense and still gives us money to play with .
There's no way we're back loading. Front loading if anything with a top up on his existing contract this year.

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Post by happy tiger » Wed 05 Dec, 2018 1:06 am

hammertime wrote:
Wed 05 Dec, 2018 12:14 am
Seantice wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:37 pm
softlaw wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:17 pm
Noting that the nrl have said they aren't registering backloaded contracts anymore...
Back loading Brooks makes no sense at all. We have money in the cap. The only reason you back load is because your salary cap is nearly used up.

This is only a guess but I think he'd be on 900k.

750k from the cap and 150k TPA.. That makes sense and still gives us money to play with .
There's no way we're back loading. Front loading if anything with a top up on his existing contract this year.
Luke has as where he wants us , we will not being paying anything under 850-900 k

When was the last time we attracted a top class half to the club that wasn't a major injury issue (Prince) include Wests and Balmain in those stats if you like .................... :shock:

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Post by Tigerdon » Wed 05 Dec, 2018 6:42 am

Balmainian wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 11:53 pm
The Patriot wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:53 pm
Tigerdon wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 9:30 pm
The Patriot wrote:
Tue 04 Dec, 2018 8:38 pm


They are great stats.

Shows he is moving in the right direction. His control of a game and big match moments still need some work but he sure improved under a better pack and the coach asking more of him.
How do you measure "control" or "game management". Can you use stats on elements of his play or is that just someone's opinion?

Its a good question. Im not really sure but for me its measured by feeling comfortable watching a game and seeing a level of control and composure.
Agree with you patriot!
Bang on, the best example was Cronk in the grandfinal.
Or Alfie Langer when he was water boy at the Broncos.
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Post by Tigerdon » Wed 05 Dec, 2018 7:19 am

Agree on Cronk (imo-as you can't measure this) controlled the Roosters side in the GF amazing well for someone with a broken shoulder. As waterboy, Alfie could manage the Broncos team around the park even though he'd retired frm the game.
If Cronk was only 23 and had a busted shoulder I doubt Robinson would have played him in the GF.
Sterling had speed and zip when he was young. So did JT. like Sterlo he was very zippy when he was young. It wasn't until later they developed game management.
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Post by tigerbenji » Wed 05 Dec, 2018 7:20 am

Yes it was in the Telegraph that his contract was Back ended, but i took no notice of it, i think the league have stopped the Clubs from back ending Contracts.

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