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Post by sheer64 » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 4:01 am

tigerbill wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 12:27 am
weststigerman wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 10:25 pm
tigerbill wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 8:32 pm
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Wed 26 Sep, 2018 4:41 pm


You sure about that? Aloiai maybe but Eisenhuth misses less tackles than Taylor and makes roughly the same amount.

IMO we only have room for one of Taylor and Eisenhuth. I would pick Eisenhuth because he can make decent metres as well as tackle.
He what???? Eisenhuth makes metres? I am at a loss for words.
In regards to tackling, Taylor and Lawrence have in common that they have excellent tackling technique, they absolutely stop runners dead.
Yep, averages over 80 metres a game while Taylor averages just over 40.

Lol. OK mate, here we go.
So I went to www.nrl.com/players and got the stats for this season.
I Copy paste them in excel.
I copy the lines where they played the same position: Lock.

Eisenhuth (total played minutes 605):
Post contact meters:188
Total Running Metres:536
Hit Up Running Metres: 477
Tackles Made: 440
Missed Tacles: 35

Taylor (total played minutes 817):
post contact meters:404
Total Running Metres:1077
Hit Up Running Metres: 1003
Tackles Made: 554
Missed Tacles: 35

Even when you normalize the stats by played minutes, ET annihilates Eisenhuth.
But I didnt need to do that to know that Eisenhuth is far from first grade standards. I just watch the matches. Just watch how he lies down into the oppositions arms.
Those stats are way off, not even close.
Today we saw a true champion in Winx, and a true bludger in Cleary!


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Post by weststigerman » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 6:48 am

sheer64 wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 4:01 am
tigerbill wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 12:27 am
weststigerman wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 10:25 pm
tigerbill wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 8:32 pm


He what???? Eisenhuth makes metres? I am at a loss for words.
In regards to tackling, Taylor and Lawrence have in common that they have excellent tackling technique, they absolutely stop runners dead.
Yep, averages over 80 metres a game while Taylor averages just over 40.

Lol. OK mate, here we go.
So I went to www.nrl.com/players and got the stats for this season.
I Copy paste them in excel.
I copy the lines where they played the same position: Lock.

Eisenhuth (total played minutes 605):
Post contact meters:188
Total Running Metres:536
Hit Up Running Metres: 477
Tackles Made: 440
Missed Tacles: 35

Taylor (total played minutes 817):
post contact meters:404
Total Running Metres:1077
Hit Up Running Metres: 1003
Tackles Made: 554
Missed Tacles: 35

Even when you normalize the stats by played minutes, ET annihilates Eisenhuth.
But I didnt need to do that to know that Eisenhuth is far from first grade standards. I just watch the matches. Just watch how he lies down into the oppositions arms.
Those stats are way off, not even close.
Yep, I suggest you have another look. Taylor hasn’t made near that amount of metres in the whole season, regardless of whether he played at lock.
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Post by The Patriot » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 6:52 am

tigerbill wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 12:27 am
weststigerman wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 10:25 pm
tigerbill wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 8:32 pm
weststigerman wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 4:41 pm


You sure about that? Aloiai maybe but Eisenhuth misses less tackles than Taylor and makes roughly the same amount.

IMO we only have room for one of Taylor and Eisenhuth. I would pick Eisenhuth because he can make decent metres as well as tackle.
He what???? Eisenhuth makes metres? I am at a loss for words.
In regards to tackling, Taylor and Lawrence have in common that they have excellent tackling technique, they absolutely stop runners dead.
Yep, averages over 80 metres a game while Taylor averages just over 40.

Lol. OK mate, here we go.
So I went to www.nrl.com/players and got the stats for this season.
I Copy paste them in excel.
I copy the lines where they played the same position: Lock.

Eisenhuth (total played minutes 605):
Post contact meters:188
Total Running Metres:536
Hit Up Running Metres: 477
Tackles Made: 440
Missed Tacles: 35

Taylor (total played minutes 817):
post contact meters:404
Total Running Metres:1077
Hit Up Running Metres: 1003
Tackles Made: 554
Missed Tacles: 35

Even when you normalize the stats by played minutes, ET annihilates Eisenhuth.
But I didnt need to do that to know that Eisenhuth is far from first grade standards. I just watch the matches. Just watch how he lies down into the oppositions arms.

Hard to argue with that.

Eisenhuth is to Cleary what Rankin was to Taylor
Its an opinion!

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Post by formerguest » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 7:51 am

Whilst this is supposed to be Ryan's thread, seeing the current discussion is on others, for mine the coach seemed to have Elijah running more effective hit ups in the latter games, often running somewhat across the ruck area and thought he went quite well in that role.

Meanwhile, Ryan is preparing for an important role in a GF and could even be replacing Cronk in the halves. Whatever the result, participation in the big dance is likely to be a good thing for him and WT, as was the experience gained by Momirovski last weekend.

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Post by tigerbill » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 8:25 am

sheer64 wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 4:01 am
tigerbill wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 12:27 am
weststigerman wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 10:25 pm
tigerbill wrote:
Wed 26 Sep, 2018 8:32 pm


He what???? Eisenhuth makes metres? I am at a loss for words.
In regards to tackling, Taylor and Lawrence have in common that they have excellent tackling technique, they absolutely stop runners dead.
Yep, averages over 80 metres a game while Taylor averages just over 40.

Lol. OK mate, here we go.
So I went to www.nrl.com/players and got the stats for this season.
I Copy paste them in excel.
I copy the lines where they played the same position: Lock.

Eisenhuth (total played minutes 605):
Post contact meters:188
Total Running Metres:536
Hit Up Running Metres: 477
Tackles Made: 440
Missed Tacles: 35

Taylor (total played minutes 817):
post contact meters:404
Total Running Metres:1077
Hit Up Running Metres: 1003
Tackles Made: 554
Missed Tacles: 35

Even when you normalize the stats by played minutes, ET annihilates Eisenhuth.
But I didnt need to do that to know that Eisenhuth is far from first grade standards. I just watch the matches. Just watch how he lies down into the oppositions arms.
Those stats are way off, not even close.
They're from nrl.com. they're stats. They don't show how ineffective eisenhuth is at controlling the ruck, bending the line, our getting a quick play the ball.


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Post by weststigerman » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:01 am

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Eisenhuth on the left, Taylor on the right.

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Post by Russell » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:12 am

weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:01 am
2018-09-27 08_59_32-.jpg

Eisenhuth on the left, Taylor on the right.
And this is from?

Big discrepancy between the two sets of stats (i.e. Tigerbill)

Yours are not from the Huth family are they?

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Post by momo&medo » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:16 am

I predict that if Cleary goes early ..... Taylor will ask for release from his contract and move back home.

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Post by weststigerman » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:21 am

Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:12 am
weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:01 am
2018-09-27 08_59_32-.jpg

Eisenhuth on the left, Taylor on the right.
And this is from?

Big discrepancy between the two sets of stats (i.e. Tigerbill)

Yours are not from the Huth family are they?
Those are screenshots from the nrl app. :roll:

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Post by Russell » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:35 am

weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:21 am
Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:12 am
weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:01 am
2018-09-27 08_59_32-.jpg

Eisenhuth on the left, Taylor on the right.
And this is from?

Big discrepancy between the two sets of stats (i.e. Tigerbill)

Yours are not from the Huth family are they?
Those are screenshots from the nrl app. :roll:
No wonder the NRL are hopeless -

If the Huth gets credited with 963 tackles on NRL app and only 440 on NRL.com

Taylor gets credited with 782 tackles on NRL app and only 554 on NRL.com

Who is correct???? - think I'll trust my eyes.

No wonder they cannot run the greatest game of all properly!

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Post by weststigerman » Thu 27 Sep, 2018 10:22 am

Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:35 am
weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:21 am
Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:12 am
weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:01 am
2018-09-27 08_59_32-.jpg

Eisenhuth on the left, Taylor on the right.
And this is from?

Big discrepancy between the two sets of stats (i.e. Tigerbill)

Yours are not from the Huth family are they?
Those are screenshots from the nrl app. :roll:
No wonder the NRL are hopeless -

If the Huth gets credited with 963 tackles on NRL app and only 440 on NRL.com

Taylor gets credited with 782 tackles on NRL app and only 554 on NRL.com

Who is correct???? - think I'll trust my eyes.

No wonder they cannot run the greatest game of all properly!
Here it is from another source: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... isAvg=true

Average missed tackles and average penalties conceded makes for interesting reading. ;)

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Post by Geo. » Fri 28 Sep, 2018 12:23 am

Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:35 am
weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:21 am
Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:12 am
weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:01 am
2018-09-27 08_59_32-.jpg

Eisenhuth on the left, Taylor on the right.
And this is from?

Big discrepancy between the two sets of stats (i.e. Tigerbill)

Yours are not from the Huth family are they?
Those are screenshots from the nrl app. :roll:
No wonder the NRL are hopeless -

If the Huth gets credited with 963 tackles on NRL app and only 440 on NRL.com

Taylor gets credited with 782 tackles on NRL app and only 554 on NRL.com

Who is correct???? - think I'll trust my eyes.

No wonder they cannot run the greatest game of all properly!
Nrl.com only has the total stats for 10 games...the app is correct..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by tigerbill » Fri 28 Sep, 2018 2:08 am

Geo. wrote:
Fri 28 Sep, 2018 12:23 am
Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:35 am
weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:21 am
Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:12 am


And this is from?

Big discrepancy between the two sets of stats (i.e. Tigerbill)

Yours are not from the Huth family are they?
Those are screenshots from the nrl app. :roll:
No wonder the NRL are hopeless -

If the Huth gets credited with 963 tackles on NRL app and only 440 on NRL.com

Taylor gets credited with 782 tackles on NRL app and only 554 on NRL.com

Who is correct???? - think I'll trust my eyes.

No wonder they cannot run the greatest game of all properly!
Nrl.com only has the total stats for 10 games...the app is correct..
What???? No mate go to the link it has the whole season.

https://www.nrl.com/players/nrl-premier ... eg-inglis/

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Post by Masterton » Fri 28 Sep, 2018 7:51 am

tigerbill wrote:
Fri 28 Sep, 2018 2:08 am
Geo. wrote:
Fri 28 Sep, 2018 12:23 am
Russell wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:35 am
weststigerman wrote:
Thu 27 Sep, 2018 9:21 am


Those are screenshots from the nrl app. :roll:
No wonder the NRL are hopeless -

If the Huth gets credited with 963 tackles on NRL app and only 440 on NRL.com

Taylor gets credited with 782 tackles on NRL app and only 554 on NRL.com

Who is correct???? - think I'll trust my eyes.

No wonder they cannot run the greatest game of all properly!
Nrl.com only has the total stats for 10 games...the app is correct..
What???? No mate go to the link it has the whole season.

https://www.nrl.com/players/nrl-premier ... eg-inglis/
You've made a mistake, Tigerbill. Elijah is only listed for 776 metres for the season.

https://www.nrl.com/players/nrl-premier ... ah-taylor/
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Post by willow » Fri 28 Sep, 2018 7:53 am

How a blow to the head by a football turned star's life upside down
By Adam Pengilly
27 September 2018 — 5:42pm

For up to 16 hours a day, Ryan Matterson would just sleep.

He wanted to go outside, but he would struggle with sunlight. Noises around home were an aggravation. He wanted to know more about what was going on inside his head, but even the mere thought of researching it worked him up even more. The headaches rumbled on.

He went to one doctor, then followed by another specialist. They all said the same: just rest. So for eight weeks Matterson did nothing, hoping to remedy a severe concussion which kept him off the field for almost a third of this NRL season.

"It was frustrating," the Roosters back-rower said. "I was suffering migraines, light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, dizziness. I was fatigued and tired. It was a pretty scary time, but I had the support of the club. That made it really easy to recover.

"But I was sleeping 16 hours a day. I just felt really tired. Simple noise was giving me migraines and head pumps. I think after seeing quite a few people I was getting the same response, ‘time will heal this’. You just have to trust the process.

"Every time you get worked up about the situation you start feeling worse. I just had to be patient and trust the people around me and [that] God’s going to get me through this."

In another era, an NRL player sitting out seven rounds because of a concussion would be scoffed at. These days, the however-long-it-takes mantra is universal.


Matterson is thankful the Roosters gave him as much time as he needed, returning to help the tricolours to the minor premiership and into Sunday's NRL grand final. At times, he might have wondered if he would play again this season.

Ask Matterson to remember how he suffered the concussion which triggered his two-month absence and he still can't tell you all the details.



It may have been a laughing matter to some watching – Matterson's head bore the brunt of a Kodi Nikorima kick against the Broncos, jokingly referred to as a "falcon" in rugby league parlance – but it had the 23-year-old fearing for his short-term future afterwards.

"I don’t remember [the incident]," Matterson said. "I remember getting off the line and then waking up on the ground.

"My partner was doing a lot of research because she was worried, but I didn’t want to get involved with that. If you start thinking about other things, you get worked up. I just wanted to isolate myself from all that and just chill out. I had to do that for eight weeks and then I came back as good as new."

Matterson will play his 60th and last NRL game for the Roosters in the grand final against the Storm at ANZ Stadium, but will no doubt have one very proud father in the stands. His dad Paul only played two games for Eastern Suburbs in the 1980s, but his words are carried everywhere by Matterson.

Before each game, Ryan pulls out a note from his wallet. It's almost falling apart. He will take it with him when he heads to the Tigers next year.

Be confident. Purpose in everything you do. Aggression. Back yourself. Make each play count. Harder you run, more hesitant the defence is. Be physical in defence.

"I still read it before every game," said Matterson, whose uncle Terry forged a long career with the Broncos while representing NSW. "It’s hanging on by a thread, I’ll have to laminate it soon.

"Dad’s at all my games and he’s my biggest fan as well as my mum. He’s my role model. Everything I know about rugby league my dad has taught me. He’s the ultimate father. He’s everything I want to become as a dad too.

"The support and drive he gives me is second to none and I definitely wouldn’t be in the position today if it wasn’t for him."

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Post by Masterton » Fri 28 Sep, 2018 8:57 am

First time he gets a concussion, people will be distraught.
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Post by The Patriot » Fri 28 Sep, 2018 10:12 am

willow wrote:
Fri 28 Sep, 2018 7:53 am
How a blow to the head by a football turned star's life upside down
By Adam Pengilly
27 September 2018 — 5:42pm

For up to 16 hours a day, Ryan Matterson would just sleep.

He wanted to go outside, but he would struggle with sunlight. Noises around home were an aggravation. He wanted to know more about what was going on inside his head, but even the mere thought of researching it worked him up even more. The headaches rumbled on.

He went to one doctor, then followed by another specialist. They all said the same: just rest. So for eight weeks Matterson did nothing, hoping to remedy a severe concussion which kept him off the field for almost a third of this NRL season.

"It was frustrating," the Roosters back-rower said. "I was suffering migraines, light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, dizziness. I was fatigued and tired. It was a pretty scary time, but I had the support of the club. That made it really easy to recover.

"But I was sleeping 16 hours a day. I just felt really tired. Simple noise was giving me migraines and head pumps. I think after seeing quite a few people I was getting the same response, ‘time will heal this’. You just have to trust the process.

"Every time you get worked up about the situation you start feeling worse. I just had to be patient and trust the people around me and [that] God’s going to get me through this."

In another era, an NRL player sitting out seven rounds because of a concussion would be scoffed at. These days, the however-long-it-takes mantra is universal.


Matterson is thankful the Roosters gave him as much time as he needed, returning to help the tricolours to the minor premiership and into Sunday's NRL grand final. At times, he might have wondered if he would play again this season.

Ask Matterson to remember how he suffered the concussion which triggered his two-month absence and he still can't tell you all the details.



It may have been a laughing matter to some watching – Matterson's head bore the brunt of a Kodi Nikorima kick against the Broncos, jokingly referred to as a "falcon" in rugby league parlance – but it had the 23-year-old fearing for his short-term future afterwards.

"I don’t remember [the incident]," Matterson said. "I remember getting off the line and then waking up on the ground.

"My partner was doing a lot of research because she was worried, but I didn’t want to get involved with that. If you start thinking about other things, you get worked up. I just wanted to isolate myself from all that and just chill out. I had to do that for eight weeks and then I came back as good as new."

Matterson will play his 60th and last NRL game for the Roosters in the grand final against the Storm at ANZ Stadium, but will no doubt have one very proud father in the stands. His dad Paul only played two games for Eastern Suburbs in the 1980s, but his words are carried everywhere by Matterson.

Before each game, Ryan pulls out a note from his wallet. It's almost falling apart. He will take it with him when he heads to the Tigers next year.

Be confident. Purpose in everything you do. Aggression. Back yourself. Make each play count. Harder you run, more hesitant the defence is. Be physical in defence.

"I still read it before every game," said Matterson, whose uncle Terry forged a long career with the Broncos while representing NSW. "It’s hanging on by a thread, I’ll have to laminate it soon.

"Dad’s at all my games and he’s my biggest fan as well as my mum. He’s my role model. Everything I know about rugby league my dad has taught me. He’s the ultimate father. He’s everything I want to become as a dad too.

"The support and drive he gives me is second to none and I definitely wouldn’t be in the position today if it wasn’t for him."
That's a good read. Shows his attitude is spot on. Love the dads note.
Its an opinion!

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Post by hank37w » Fri 28 Sep, 2018 3:59 pm

Just waiting for someone to say he wasn't right in the head when he signed for us.

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