Kidwell expects hardened edge in 2014

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Re: Kidwell expects hardened edge in 2014

Post by pHyR3 » Fri 10 Jan, 2014 1:22 pm

i havent heard much about kidwell's prowess on the field post retirement KS. he was an okay player from what i hear, don't really remember him well from south sydney.

only a bit about coaching.
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Post by cqtiger » Fri 10 Jan, 2014 2:52 pm

king sirro wrote:Is it just me or has Kidwell been severely overrated as a player since he retired??? He was ok, thats it.

Since he retired he gets talked about as though he was one of the hardest backrowers ever. For me he was a solid first grader who would have never even been considered for rep footy if he was Aussie.
All to do with being a Storm assistant coach. They tend to grow legs after being in that system

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Post by Newtown » Fri 10 Jan, 2014 5:42 pm

king sirro wrote:Is it just me or has Kidwell been severely overrated as a player since he retired??? He was ok, thats it.

Since he retired he gets talked about as though he was one of the hardest backrowers ever. For me he was a solid first grader who would have never even been considered for rep footy if he was Aussie.
You don't have to be a good player to be a very good coach.

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Post by king sirro » Fri 10 Jan, 2014 6:03 pm

Newtown wrote:
king sirro wrote:Is it just me or has Kidwell been severely overrated as a player since he retired??? He was ok, thats it.

Since he retired he gets talked about as though he was one of the hardest backrowers ever. For me he was a solid first grader who would have never even been considered for rep footy if he was Aussie.
You don't have to be a good player to be a very good coach.


I havent mentioned his coaching. Im hoping he brings us something positive.

Im talking about his playing ability. I seem to be hearing (since we signed him) how tough and good he was as a player and i just didnt see that much in him.

My comment is off subject really and has nothing to do with his coaching and to be honest, is irrelevant to Wests Tigers.....was just making an observation.
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Post by innsaneink » Fri 10 Jan, 2014 6:24 pm

I dunno I think he was plenty tough enough


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Post by simonthetiger » Fri 10 Jan, 2014 7:04 pm

innsaneink wrote:I dunno I think he was plenty tough enough
Yeah he was a pretty tough guy.

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Post by BrotherJim05 » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 5:36 pm

I know we hear this hype every year but this year will be different, especially with the forwards we now have. Sue, Ava, Sironen, Tupau were all not in the squad (or considered in the forwards) so I would say we have a bit more size to work with. Also Blair's move to the front row will be much more beneficial than when he was in the back row so all in all, we have alot to look forward to.
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Post by happy tiger » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 7:49 pm

Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind

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happy tiger wrote:Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind
Wayne Bennett played for Australia!

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 9:06 pm

Guest wrote:
happy tiger wrote:Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind
Wayne Bennett played for Australia!

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Wayne Bennett made Luke Covell look like Martin Offiah

Remember seeing Wayne Bennett and Wayne Stewart (another winger who played for Australia in 1972 ) in a 30 metre run for the line back in Brisbane Rugby League days at Lang Park

I could of used a sun dial to time them

Bennett strength was he was probably one of the fittest guys of his era

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Post by innsaneink » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 9:12 pm

Gus was a very good player, as was Cleary
Sheens was tough, as was Gibson

Poor examples

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 9:22 pm

innsaneink wrote:Gus was a very good player, as was Cleary
Sheens was tough, as was Gibson

Poor examples
Maybe mine and your thoughts on a good player differ

I might give you Gus was a good player , then again he played in some good sides with good forward pack but the others were solid at best

Bennett Sheens Cleary and Bellamy were solid players in my opinion

I can only go off what I've been told about Gibson , but from what the old man told me , again a solid player

Same as I class some of my favourite footballers Dean Lance ,Paul Vautin as solid players

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Post by innsaneink » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 10:11 pm

They all played at the top level for a decade plus.
Only very good players do that

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Post by Newtown » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 10:20 pm

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happy tiger wrote:Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind
Wayne Bennett played for Australia!

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Brad Fittler played for Australia too. But what sort of coach did he turn out to be?

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Post by Irvine » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 10:33 pm

Kidwell, Payten and Webster are going to make Potter look like a better coach this year.

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Post by littletiger » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 10:36 pm

Gould was a good player.

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 10:43 pm

Newtown wrote:
Guest wrote:
happy tiger wrote:Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind
Wayne Bennett played for Australia!

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Brad Fittler played for Australia too. But what sort of coach did he turn out to be?
And either did Wally Lewis and that's my point You can't judge a coach on his playing career

Some players can't teach what they had

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Post by Fraze23 » Sun 12 Jan, 2014 10:52 pm

Irvine wrote:Kidwell, Payten and Webster are going to make Potter look like a better coach this year.
I'm glad Webster is back in the mix. He has great potential as a coach and a good rapport with many of our young players who came through the Ball system.

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