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Re: Controversial No Try Costs Tigers a Win

Unread post by krayola » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 7:15 pm

When you play poorly the referees never seem to be on your side.


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Unread post by Geo. » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 7:17 pm

Have watched it for the 15th time now....Galloway was in the Raiders in goal line did not even touch a Raiders defended...no one was impeded in attempting to tackle Farah....Farah gained no advantage at all....

The call was incorrect...

The funniest thing is if Ole Henry said TRY ....the monkey's in the box would have said TRY.....
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Unread post by Sabre » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 7:19 pm

The rulebook says you can't run behind a team mate to gain an advantage, what an "advantage" involves is probably a grey area. No one was taken out but we did score a try off it, so who knows...the obstruction rule has always been unclear.

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Unread post by steve-o » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 7:29 pm

I think it was the right call.. You can't run behind your own player.
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Unread post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 7:33 pm

If we weren't so inept in giving up a 22 point lead, this would be a non issue. Time to stop blaming bad calls and start putting the onus on the players.


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Unread post by southerntiger » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 7:43 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:If we weren't so inept in giving up a 22 point lead, this would be a non issue. Time to stop blaming bad calls and start putting the onus on the players.
Everyone agrees that the team shouldnt have given up a 22 point lead. We are discussing whether or not it was a correct decision. IMO it wasnt. Doesnt mean I blame it for our loss.

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Unread post by formerguest » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 7:53 pm

Happy to accept the no try decision on the basis of an historical play that was called a shepherd, however, that unwritten rule has been confined to the annals of history for many a year now. I would say way more than a hundred tries have been allowed in the meantime under the "obstruction" guidelines, so it confounds me.

It used to be pretty basic for mine and there was little conjecture when more than a single decoy was deployed, but now we have all this inside shoulder, outside shoulder etcetera clouding the issue, and that is before taking a possible dive into account.

Also, little doubt that Pappali was not remonstrating about any obstruction, he was expecting the feined chip that Robbie sold them.

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Unread post by Yossarian » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 8:08 pm

It was a Russell Smith penalty. The sort of overly technical ones you see in Union.

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Unread post by innsaneink » Sun 19 Apr, 2015 9:46 pm

Yeh but we shouldnt even have had the ball....scrum with our feed prior to that set was off an incorrect knock on ruling against rapana...should have been a canberra ball...

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Unread post by Geo. » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 8:04 am

At least we didn't throw bottles...
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Unread post by Tiger Watto » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 8:16 am

Geo. wrote:Have watched it for the 15th time now....Galloway was in the Raiders in goal line did not even touch a Raiders defended...no one was impeded in attempting to tackle Farah....Farah gained no advantage at all....

The call was incorrect...

The funniest thing is if Ole Henry said TRY ....the monkey's in the box would have said TRY.....
^^ This ^^

There was advantage gained... If it happened on the halfway line on the 3rd tackle, nothing wouldve been done about it.

A howler of a decision regardless of the outcome!

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Unread post by lathami » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 10:19 am

Sorry, but the no try to brooks was another glaring look at how poor the desion making is!!
Galloway ran straight through the line, not one person was impeded not ONE!
Farah also was only line ball running behind him and when he was completely through the line.
The last Canberra try came off the back of a another poor call by that crap ref of a 5 tackle set to our guys working it out off our line!!!!
Can't u count morons, am mm what comes after four?????????
The 10 meters were skinny every time we had the ball but no penalties...
Seriously we have had not one fifty/fifty call go our way..
Now I know we should still not lost that game but its like we are playing against 19-21 man squad!

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Unread post by BlackandGoldForever » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 10:50 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:If we weren't so inept in giving up a 22 point lead, this would be a non issue. Time to stop blaming bad calls and start putting the onus on the players.
Yep agree, shouldn't have let them come back in the first place so we could even be talking about this

Video refs have no idea have no consistency at all but we should have been in a big enough lead to not even worry about this

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Unread post by Goose » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 2:15 pm

When they made the ruling i thought it was correct.

Now Im not so sure.

INk on the Canberra dropped ball immediately before the try/no try, I watched it in slow mo (after the game) and I reckon he probably touched it.

Disappointing, the Woods miss to start the rot was a shocker, and the Brooks miss at the end was bad as well.

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Unread post by Gray » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 2:29 pm

Correct call by the book, although commonsense says the opposite.

If it was Canberra on the other side of this call and they called try, we would be blowing up. By the book the refs made the correct call, but its a rule which they really do need to get right, because the shambles it is has been going on too long.

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Unread post by spearby » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 3:40 pm

the call was correct it was a shepherd for all money in the old days but today I have seen dozens let go. what I cant under stand why the ref didn't blow the whistle for the shepherd straight away no nee4d to go up to video its a penalty if it happened in the middle of the park does he go up to the video NO he blows a penalty I for the love of me cant see how the video ref can pass judgment on a shepherd may be I am just a stupid old man

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Unread post by Geo. » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 4:08 pm

The rule has changed from Rd 3....

Reynolds receives the Ball
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Runs Behind Glen Stewart who contacts WT defenders
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Reynolds then passes to Inglis who scores
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GLORY GLORY to South Syd.....wait
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Unread post by Chevy » Mon 20 Apr, 2015 5:34 pm

IMO it wasn't a shepherd or obstruction but then again these things happen and you wont hear Wicky complaining about the 50/50 calls.The WT only have themselves to blame for the loss.
The ref certainly mucked up that tackle count before the last Raiders try but i wouldn't expect any admission from the refs as they are never wrong apparently.
For the record 1st tackle-Ted 2nd-Pat 3rd-Halatau 4th-Sue 5th Rowdy.
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