If you can't win a scrum you don't deserve to win a game

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If you can't win a scrum you don't deserve to win a game

Post by Boonboon2 » Sun 17 May, 2015 5:56 pm

Heading says it all


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Post by Tbone » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:03 pm

Taylor looked frustrated in the box a number of times today. We're only a few more losses away from the knives coming out again. Welcome to the Wests Tigers.

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Post by weststigers » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:03 pm

When the game is in the balance, you'd think you'd make sure of it.

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Post by Tbone » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:04 pm

Double post.
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Post by stevetiger » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:12 pm

Is he a dud coach ? I mean I think we are a much better team than Newcastle. JT's structures look pretty ordinary to me.


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Post by Love the WestsTigers » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:23 pm

Just sad
Hate losing
When are we gonna get that winning feeling back ?

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Post by Geo. » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:27 pm

Re-packed 9999 times out of 10,000...that was the one...
Ivan's Laws

1. You are either on the Bus or you are off..
2. The Star of the Team is the Team
3. Be the player your teammates want to play with..
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Geo nailed it...

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Post by alexaki » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:28 pm

Love the WestsTigers wrote:Just sad
Hate losing
When are we gonna get that winning feeling back ?
according to the experts in 3 years

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Post by Tuiaki Chicken Wings » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:28 pm

stevetiger wrote:Is he a dud coach ? I mean I think we are a much better team than Newcastle. JT's structures look pretty ordinary to me.
He's trying to implement a roosters structure to a team that needs to play a free flowing game. Brooks and Moses need to learn to play what is in front of them, they are playing structured when at times they should just back their abilities. The consistent one out with the bomb to end is schoolboy footy. It's boring, uninspiring and it's not effective what so ever. Release the shackles and let's play some footy!!!!!!!!

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Post by Eye Of Da Tiger » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:29 pm

Summed up our game.

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Post by NJLM78 » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:30 pm

Love the WestsTigers wrote:Just sad
Hate losing
When are we gonna get that winning feeling back ?



Roosters and Knights ended their long losing streaks in the past two weeks with big wins against the Tigers.

Just wait till we play the Tigers then we will be back in the winners circle again.



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Post by Tbone » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:31 pm

My criticism which I have mentioned before is that he seems to be misusing the resources available to him. He has a structure in mind but its not working either offensively or defensively. Its not enough to say the structure works if we never miss a tackle, give away a penalty or drop a ball. You need to adjust it based on the relative strengths and weaknesses of your players and I don't see that happening.

What good is it persisting with a one out pass from dummy half if you cant get to the halfway line and the opposition is getting to your 30 or 20 and putting in an attacking kick? This is just playing to your weakness (their strength) and its a failure in strategy. I'll put the knives away for now but it'll be interesting to see if he changes this or whether he tries to have us playing like the roosters with the roster of the tigers.

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Post by Tbone » Sun 17 May, 2015 6:33 pm

Tuiaki Chicken Wings wrote:
stevetiger wrote:Is he a dud coach ? I mean I think we are a much better team than Newcastle. JT's structures look pretty ordinary to me.
He's trying to implement a roosters structure to a team that needs to play a free flowing game. Brooks and Moses need to learn to play what is in front of them, they are playing structured when at times they should just back their abilities. The consistent one out with the bomb to end is schoolboy footy. It's boring, uninspiring and it's not effective what so ever. Release the shackles and let's play some footy!!!!!!!!

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You bet me to it.

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Post by hybrid_tiger » Mon 18 May, 2015 8:03 am

Good to see they learnt from the last time this happened...

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 18 May, 2015 8:30 am

We got lucky in a game earlier this year where they called it back from a win against the feed

That's just it , rugby league basics

And its why teams don't take penalties , they just wait until we physically and mentally crack

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Post by foreveratiger » Mon 18 May, 2015 8:38 am

What is comical is that our Coach used to be halfback, you would think he'd have this area covered feeding the scrum.
This turned the game for me and Farahs grubber on tackle 4 when we had a whole backline set to the left.
It depends who you talk to on this Forum, if you are Optimistic? it's because your delusional and need a reality check. If you are Pessimistic? Your accused of being a negative Nancy and to go and follow another Club.

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Post by NT Tiger » Mon 18 May, 2015 9:43 am

To me it looked like attitude was the difference from early in the game. The Knights wanted it more and it showed. The scrum loss was just the 'red flashing light' that brought attention to it. To be honest they reminded me of our play at the end of last year.
JT said at the beginning of the season that the team had bought into his (presumably long term) plan. I'm left wondering if players are now realising the shorter term implications of that plan, busting a gut week in and week out to support playmakers on L plates.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
"Quality Stupidity"

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 18 May, 2015 9:53 am

foreveratiger wrote:What is comical is that our Coach used to be halfback, you would think he'd have this area covered feeding the scrum.
This turned the game for me and Farahs grubber on tackle 4 when we had a whole backline set to the left.
Farah mentioned in the presso , they rushed to the scrum and weren't set up normally

Take the extra 10-15 seconds and do it right

We were 10 metres out for Christ sake , it wasn't as if we had to travel the length to score

Again we needed someone to calm it all down , take a deep breath and relax and set us up properly

As a good tradesman will tell you , its all in the preparation , following the right steps correctly

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