How many expected at Leichhardt Oval?

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Re: How many expected at Leichhardt Oval?

Post by gallagher » Sat 06 Jun, 2015 10:06 am

Another $100k + flushed down the dunny. The club cannot go on ignoring it.


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Post by NJLM78 » Sat 06 Jun, 2015 11:08 am

Geo. wrote:
foreveratiger wrote:
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Eye Of Da Tiger wrote:The pies were ok. Pretty poor turn out.

There may have been more pies than people.

I actually thought they might get a lot less than 7k.
What was the actual Crowd?
7103....


The crowd really built up in the 10 mins before kick off. I think that 7100 might be a bit less than what I thought was there. I thought between 8-9000 might be closer to the mark.

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Post by greatodensraven » Sat 06 Jun, 2015 11:41 am

Sounded like 20000 odd at times. Loads of banter on the hill. Such a great place to watch the footy & I really thought we'd get the boys home last night.

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Post by Eye Of Da Tiger » Sat 06 Jun, 2015 2:07 pm

It was a loud 7000.

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Post by glebe_tiger » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 8:50 am

That crowd number is indicative of where the team is at. We would of got that at any of our 3 home grounds. Would of looked even worse at ANZ. And they want to move more games to ANZ, yeah nice.


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Post by kiwitiger » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 9:24 am

gallagher wrote:Another $100k + flushed down the dunny. The club cannot go on ignoring it.
Yep, $800,000 turned down per year by this club. There is our backrower and centre we can't afford. Never mind it's only money. Until we make the hard decisions we will always struggle.

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Post by Tiger In The Gong » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 9:44 am

kiwitiger wrote:
gallagher wrote:Another $100k + flushed down the dunny. The club cannot go on ignoring it.
Yep, $800,000 turned down per year by this club. There is our backrower and centre we can't afford. Never mind it's only money. Until we make the hard decisions we will always struggle.

How many do we need to get at Leichhardt or Campbeltown for that situation to be profitable?

Some people are suggesting the crowd figures at those games have been deliberately lowered either on the night or through actions in the lead up to games. Then there is the fact that we have struggled to field our best players the last couple of years and this year, well we just suck.

IF they up and leave many are going to ask if the club really tried or just tried to make it look like they had no choice.

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Post by simonthetiger » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 9:59 am

We would have got 20k for sure if that game was played at ANZ....

Bwahahahhaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 10:41 am

simonthetiger wrote:We would have got 20k for sure if that game was played at ANZ....

Bwahahahhaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
We would have made 100K though

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Post by gallagher » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 10:42 am

We would have got $100k

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Post by gallagher » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 10:43 am

glebe_tiger wrote:That crowd number is indicative of where the team is at. We would of got that at any of our 3 home grounds. Would of looked even worse at ANZ. And they want to move more games to ANZ, yeah nice.
Yeah $100k a game would be nice.

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Post by tig_prmz » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 10:43 am

i would've been happy with 7.. anything above 6 i thought was good coz it wasn't too embarassing lol
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Post by angry ant » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 12:35 pm

All this talk of the Tigers missing out on $100k is laughable. Mayer himself quoted this week in response to a question stated that Campbo only members are 2200 and Leichhardt 3500. Lets do the numbers in regards to Leichhardt, cheapest Adult package for Leichhardt membership is $86 for gen admin, kids $56 and premium $139. So on average lets assume its the $86 x 3500 = $301,000 for 4 games.
The prev game at Leichhardt attracted over 13,000 and would have made the club somewhere around $200-$300k (lets assume 10000 tickets sold at $25 each = $250k + merch, sponsors, corporate packages).

So they move all games to ANZ, how many Leichhardt/Campbo members only would upgrade to ANZ? I couldn't imagine too many. How long then until ANZ drop the hire fee they pay to a club that attracts a few thousand to a home game? What will be the financial cost in losing the areas of Balmain and Campbelltown with no connection to a community other than a couple of coaching clinics run by injured/lower grade players or open training sessions only run on weekdays?

If that exact game was played at ANZ on Friday night with the same circumstances of an underperforming team against the Titans what would the crowd have been, 2000-3000 maybe?? Possibly a few extra ANZ members who contribute no funds to the club and a whole bunch of free tickets! There are also game day costs of playing a game at ANZ. What percentage of merchandise sales sold at the venue go to ANZ? Surely also the Wests Tigers game day staff/cheerleaders/merchandise/security don't work for free...

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Post by gallagher » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 3:40 pm

angry ant wrote:All this talk of the Tigers missing out on $100k is laughable. Mayer himself quoted this week in response to a question stated that Campbo only members are 2200 and Leichhardt 3500. Lets do the numbers in regards to Leichhardt, cheapest Adult package for Leichhardt membership is $86 for gen admin, kids $56 and premium $139. So on average lets assume its the $86 x 3500 = $301,000 for 4 games.
The prev game at Leichhardt attracted over 13,000 and would have made the club somewhere around $200-$300k (lets assume 10000 tickets sold at $25 each = $250k + merch, sponsors, corporate packages).

So they move all games to ANZ, how many Leichhardt/Campbo members only would upgrade to ANZ? I couldn't imagine too many. How long then until ANZ drop the hire fee they pay to a club that attracts a few thousand to a home game? What will be the financial cost in losing the areas of Balmain and Campbelltown with no connection to a community other than a couple of coaching clinics run by injured/lower grade players or open training sessions only run on weekdays?

If that exact game was played at ANZ on Friday night with the same circumstances of an underperforming team against the Titans what would the crowd have been, 2000-3000 maybe?? Possibly a few extra ANZ members who contribute no funds to the club and a whole bunch of free tickets! There are also game day costs of playing a game at ANZ. What percentage of merchandise sales sold at the venue go to ANZ? Surely also the Wests Tigers game day staff/cheerleaders/merchandise/security don't work for free...
About your figures on the profit at LO. Successive CEO's have stated we need to get around 12,000 to a game to break even. Why would they lie about that? Your figures dont even take into costs of staging the event.
About getting 2000 to ANZ. Go and have a look at our lowest drawing crowds. ALL of then have been at LO or CSS.
Now, who are the biggest,strongest clubs in Sydney? Those that play out of crap holes or those who play out of stadiums?

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Post by glebe_tiger » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 3:57 pm

gallagher wrote:Now, who are the biggest,strongest clubs in Sydney? Those that play out of crap holes or those who play out of stadiums?
I doubt it has all to do with the stadium they play at. Take away rich benefactors and mega leagues clubs and some of those clubs wouldn't be where they're at today.

Manly, suburban ground, still years of success until recently.
Parra, decent home ground and a wealthy club by comparable standards yet to eventuate onfield success for decades.

Dragons have same 4,4,4 split as us, isn't harming their success this year.

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Post by Eddie » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 4:04 pm

gallagher wrote:
angry ant wrote:All this talk of the Tigers missing out on $100k is laughable. Mayer himself quoted this week in response to a question stated that Campbo only members are 2200 and Leichhardt 3500. Lets do the numbers in regards to Leichhardt, cheapest Adult package for Leichhardt membership is $86 for gen admin, kids $56 and premium $139. So on average lets assume its the $86 x 3500 = $301,000 for 4 games.
The prev game at Leichhardt attracted over 13,000 and would have made the club somewhere around $200-$300k (lets assume 10000 tickets sold at $25 each = $250k + merch, sponsors, corporate packages).

So they move all games to ANZ, how many Leichhardt/Campbo members only would upgrade to ANZ? I couldn't imagine too many. How long then until ANZ drop the hire fee they pay to a club that attracts a few thousand to a home game? What will be the financial cost in losing the areas of Balmain and Campbelltown with no connection to a community other than a couple of coaching clinics run by injured/lower grade players or open training sessions only run on weekdays?

If that exact game was played at ANZ on Friday night with the same circumstances of an underperforming team against the Titans what would the crowd have been, 2000-3000 maybe?? Possibly a few extra ANZ members who contribute no funds to the club and a whole bunch of free tickets! There are also game day costs of playing a game at ANZ. What percentage of merchandise sales sold at the venue go to ANZ? Surely also the Wests Tigers game day staff/cheerleaders/merchandise/security don't work for free...
About your figures on the profit at LO. Successive CEO's have stated we need to get around 12,000 to a game to break even. Why would they lie about that? Your figures dont even take into costs of staging the event.
About getting 2000 to ANZ. Go and have a look at our lowest drawing crowds. ALL of then have been at LO or CSS.
Now, who are the biggest,strongest clubs in Sydney? Those that play out of crap holes or those who play out of stadiums?
I agree with your general view. The club can no longer afford to keep having money go down the toilet. I don't think anyone could really complain logically if they moved to ANZ fulltime.

However don't try and pull the wool over peoples eyes in regards to tthe actual crowd comparisons. LO and CS draw the lowest crowds because they get the dud games. If ANZ got the Titans, Penrith, Canberra, Melbourne etc they would have our lowest crowds.

I don't think it is as simple as moving to ANZ and becoming the strongest club in Sydney. Sure Canterbury and Souths ar strong, however Saints and Manly have won 3 premiershis combined in the last 7-8 years and they were not out of ANZ

Our main problem is the roster. And if we need more money to invest in that roster from ANZ then I would be in favour even if it is a pretty soulless place.

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Post by gallagher » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 4:52 pm

Fair points. I'm more talking about financial success firstly rather than on field. Financial success should lead to on field success.
Manly and saints have had their successes on the field but are in just as bad a shape financialy as us. And they will continue to struggle financially. We have a chance to improve our finances significantly in one simple move.
And i don't think we'd ever get a sub 10k crowd at ANZ. Just my opinion.

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Post by simonthetiger » Sun 07 Jun, 2015 6:09 pm

Titans v tigers at ANZ last Friday??

5k fo sho!

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