Gavin Badger petition

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Re: Gavin Badger petition

Unread post by happy tiger » Sun 12 Jul, 2015 9:24 pm

hobbo2803 wrote:
happy tiger wrote:
Geo. wrote:Badge got Sunday Match of the day this week...so he couldn't be going to bad..
When you follow the NRL edict you will get rewarded
So will the Broncos next Sunday !

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Forgot to add Geo , isn't the Sunday game the 4th best rated game of the round now ??


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Unread post by supercoach » Mon 13 Jul, 2015 9:21 am

king sirro wrote:It's not just the actual penalty counts. You can even win the count but still get screwed by the refs. They know how to work it. Give the team they want to win penalties on 3rd, 4th or 5th tackles and give the team they want to lose penalties on the 1st or 2nd tackle. Trust me it's huge. Also throwing in 3 penalties in a row at the end to even the count up once the game is lost is a common smother too. Forget the stats look at the circumstances. The rorts are huge and rife in the NRL

So true, how often do we get a 1st tackle penalty ten meters out from our line on the sideline and than the other team gets a fifth tackle penalty mid in their attacking zone. Happens all the time. A lot of refs will try even things up after the horse has bolted. You get the other situation where you are having a massive defensive set holding the team on their line only for them to be given a get out of jail card on a late tackle. Their is no risk that the battlers get refereed different to the top teams

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Unread post by lathami » Mon 13 Jul, 2015 10:35 am

Please, badger is an idiot that should be skinned 4 his efforts..
Problem really is JT and his no bag the ref policy!!
Doesn't put any pressure on the reffs to perform...

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Unread post by Cultured Bogan » Mon 13 Jul, 2015 10:36 am

Are you footing the $10K for giving the ref a spray. Pretty sure the club can't afford it at the minute.
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Unread post by alexaki » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 4:37 pm

This came from the Lurker today:

If true, why are there different criteria for refs who manage SOO games compared to NRL games...?Badger hammered us the last 2 games yet remained the darling ref in the NRL....
Blues dirty on Origin referees


NSW couldn't say it publicly - because of the lop-sided result - but they were filthy with the refereeing of Ben Cummins and Gerard Sutton in Origin III.
A 12-5 penalty count to Queensland gave NSW virtually no chance of momentum.
Safe to say the pair won't be returning to the Origin arena in 2016


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Unread post by Lakra » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 6:50 pm

Watch this video of badger and galloway


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Unread post by fairdinkum » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 7:30 pm

ahhh mate thanks for digging up that clip, jesus that made me fume when i heard that last year. Galloway did nothing leading up to that and was called out by Badger. I was watching with a few of my mates and our jaws just dropped. we couldn't believe Badger said that, more to the point it was actually caught on the telly. 2 mins later he blew the softest penalty right in front of the sticks for the Broncos to win 16-14. Im sure there are at least 15 games that could be looked at as an inquiry for the previous few years. Cheat if ever I saw one.

Also Id like to point out it just shows how piss weak the Tigers are. Blind Freddy can see he has an agenda against us and as usual this club bends over like the PUSSY cats we are. You reckon if the broncs or the rorters had a ref not in their pocket they'd continually get that ref stuff up their games like we seem to do with Badger, not a chance in hell.
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Unread post by fairdinkum » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 7:35 pm



Someone had to take over from Shayne "how good am I" Hayne

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Unread post by alexaki » Wed 15 Jul, 2015 8:34 pm

fairdinkum wrote:ahhh mate thanks for digging up that clip, jesus that made me fume when i heard that last year. Galloway did nothing leading up to that and was called out by Badger. I was watching with a few of my mates and our jaws just dropped. we couldn't believe Badger said that, more to the point it was actually caught on the telly. 2 mins later he blew the softest penalty right in front of the sticks for the Broncos to win 16-14. Im sure there are at least 15 games that could be looked at as an inquiry for the previous few years. Cheat if ever I saw one.

Also Id like to point out it just shows how piss weak the Tigers are. Blind Freddy can see he has an agenda against us and as usual this club bends over like the PUSSY cats we are. You reckon if the broncs or the rorters had a ref not in their pocket they'd continually get that ref stuff up their games like we seem to do with Badger, not a chance in hell.
well done...but this Vid just confirms what we all know about Badger......he has a gambling problem! :roll

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Unread post by alexaki » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 6:58 am

Interesting Article from the SMH today...

Maybe we are too one eyed when it comes to the refs and how we are treated?...there is an interesting table in the artcile that wont come up in the post...clink on article link.

The Roosters have long suspected they don't get their fair share of penalties and a forensic look at their treatment by the whistleblowers confirms they are right.

There are any number of statistics which highlight that the tri-colours have been offside with referees in recent years, but none more so than when it comes to receiving seven or more penalties in a match. Research conducted by Sydney-based logistician and Roosters life member Alan Katzmann has found that since the 2013 grand final, NRL clubs are awarded, on average, seven or more penalties about every three matches (or 13.53 times per team in regular season games since the opening round of 2014 to last weekend).
However, it hasn't happened for the Roosters in the past 38 home-and-away matches, a 'streak' that balloons to 41 if finals game are included. Given that it has happened 203 times in the 320 matches, the Roosters appear to have reason to feel aggrieved.

The Roosters have long suspected they don't get their fair share of penalties and a forensic look at their treatment by the whistleblowers confirms they are right.
There are any number of statistics which highlight that the tri-colours have been offside with referees in recent years, but none more so than when it comes to receiving seven or more penalties in a match. Research conducted by Sydney-based logistician and Roosters life member Alan Katzmann has found that since the 2013 grand final, NRL clubs are awarded, on average, seven or more penalties about every three matches (or 13.53 times per team in regular season games since the opening round of 2014 to last weekend).
However, it hasn't happened for the Roosters in the past 38 home-and-away matches, a 'streak' that balloons to 41 if finals game are included. Given that it has happened 203 times in the 320 matches, the Roosters appear to have reason to feel aggrieved.
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Penrith (19 occasions), South Sydney and the Gold Coast have been the biggest beneficiaries when it comes to receiving seven or more penalties, while the Eels and Raiders are on the other end with just eight. However, the fact the Roosters have enjoyed the advantage just once during the period is a sore point for club officials. Premiership-winning Roosters coach Trent Robinson is aware of the anomaly but declined to comment.
"Generally teams concede penalties when they are failing to physically match their opponents and are losing the battle at the ruck," Katzmann observed.
"Given the Roosters have won 65 per cent of their home-and-away matches since the start of 2014, through what experts describe as a power game, one would expect they would be receiving a reasonable share of the penalties as sides struggle to hold their pack, which is as strong as any in the NRL, but alas the opposite is the case, with the Roosters continually conceding more penalties than most other teams, and receiving the fewest of all 16 teams in the NRL."
The Roosters have received fewer penalties than any other club in regular-season games from 2007-14 and also conceded the greatest number over the same period. While spoiling tactics or indiscipline are often given as reasons for conceding penalties, Roosters insiders are concerned the club has no control over penalties received. All coaches know that a large discrepancy against them makes the task of winning games much more difficult.
"In 2015 the gap between the penalties the Roosters received compared to other clubs has not abated," Katzmann noted.
"Through 16 matches played this season the Roosters are again at the bottom of the table for penalties received, with just 87 from 16 matches. Remember, we are not talking about penalties conceded by the Roosters, an area in which they do have some control over – these are penalties received – determined entirely upon the conduct of the Roosters' opponents each weekend, and the actions of referees in adjudicating on that conduct.
"It continually amazes how clubs' adherence to the rules when playing the Roosters, based on penalty counts, are always significantly more vigilant when playing the Roosters, compared, on average, to playing other clubs.

"Despite major changes in personnel and referees over the past decade clubs playing the Roosters have been able to maintain that discipline, even when this discipline is missing when pitted against the other [15] clubs they play each season."
NRL Referees Elite Performance Manager Tony Archer said he was in "constant dialogue with all coaches, including Trent Robinson". "In season 2015, the Roosters have conceded on average 6.8 penalties a game and have received on average 5.4 penalties a game," he said.


Penrith (19 occasions), South Sydney and the Gold Coast have been the biggest beneficiaries when it comes to receiving seven or more penalties, while the Eels and Raiders are on the other end with just eight. However, the fact the Roosters have enjoyed the advantage just once during the period is a sore point for club officials. Premiership-winning Roosters coach Trent Robinson is aware of the anomaly but declined to comment.
"Generally teams concede penalties when they are failing to physically match their opponents and are losing the battle at the ruck," Katzmann observed.
"Given the Roosters have won 65 per cent of their home-and-away matches since the start of 2014, through what experts describe as a power game, one would expect they would be receiving a reasonable share of the penalties as sides struggle to hold their pack, which is as strong as any in the NRL, but alas the opposite is the case, with the Roosters continually conceding more penalties than most other teams, and receiving the fewest of all 16 teams in the NRL."
The Roosters have received fewer penalties than any other club in regular-season games from 2007-14 and also conceded the greatest number over the same period. While spoiling tactics or indiscipline are often given as reasons for conceding penalties, Roosters insiders are concerned the club has no control over penalties received. All coaches know that a large discrepancy against them makes the task of winning games much more difficult.
"In 2015 the gap between the penalties the Roosters received compared to other clubs has not abated," Katzmann noted.
"Through 16 matches played this season the Roosters are again at the bottom of the table for penalties received, with just 87 from 16 matches. Remember, we are not talking about penalties conceded by the Roosters, an area in which they do have some control over – these are penalties received – determined entirely upon the conduct of the Roosters' opponents each weekend, and the actions of referees in adjudicating on that conduct.
"It continually amazes how clubs' adherence to the rules when playing the Roosters, based on penalty counts, are always significantly more vigilant when playing the Roosters, compared, on average, to playing other clubs.
"Despite major changes in personnel and referees over the past decade clubs playing the Roosters have been able to maintain that discipline, even when this discipline is missing when pitted against the other [15] clubs they play each season."
NRL Referees Elite Performance Manager Tony Archer said he was in "constant dialogue with all coaches, including Trent Robinson". "In season 2015, the Roosters have conceded on average 6.8 penalties a game and have received on average 5.4 penalties a game," he said.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z3fznmBHvR

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Unread post by cunno » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 12:58 pm

It would be interesting to know how Wests Tigers are going in 2015 I think our figures are improved by 2014 penalties in our favour being added in.

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Unread post by westTAHger » Thu 16 Jul, 2015 2:37 pm

Only way to prove anything, would be to go way back to the first game that gavin badger reffed wests -tigers up to the end of this season.
This would show all penalites for and against and final result of each game.
Once all data is collected, have a meeting with Tony Smith, Tony Archer & Gavin Badger and show it to them. The numbers will speak for itself.
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Unread post by goldcoast tiger » Mon 20 Jul, 2015 8:07 am

marzie wrote:What the stats do indicate though is that he consistently penalises tigers out of the game.
Ever thought ,that as we are a crap defensive team , and have to lay all over the tackled players, longer than the better defensive teams do , that it follows that we will be penalised at a fairly high rate.
We're getting paranoid guys

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