Warriors Still in Race for Sheens

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Warriors Still in Race for Sheens

Post by LegendKiller » Sun 09 Sep, 2012 12:34 pm

THE Warriors' chances of landing a ''super coach'' have dramatically increased, with revelations overnight the club could have its preferred coaching choice installed at Mt Smart Stadium as early as next year.

With the cash-rich Roosters signing rookie coach Trent Robinson to a three-year deal on Friday, the Warriors are now positioned as the only club in the market for the Storm's Craig Bellamy, and the Tigers' Tim Sheens.

In recent days a $4 million bid for Bellamy's services was tabled for a three-year stint at Mt Smart. It is not known whether that figure included a buy-out of the final year of Bellamy's contract with the Storm, due to run out at the end of next season.

Warriors chief executive Wayne Scurrah declined to comment on the possible contract offer to ultimately replace the sacked Brian McClennan.
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But with Scurrah, recruitment boss Dean Bell and club chairman Bill Wavish in Sydney during the week, it is believed they had a meeting with Bellamy's agent John Fordham after the Dally Ms on Tuesday night.

Bellamy is regarded as one of the NRL's top coaches, after creating a formidable record at the Storm, and earning a reputation as a tough, uncompromising leader.

The services of Sheens, who is also the Kangaroos coach, are however, emerging as potential leverage for the Warriors' desire to land Bellamy. Despite re-signing with the Tigers for three years in 2011, Sheens, who won a premiership with the club in 2005, is understood to be unhappy, after surviving an alleged boardroom coup this season.

The Tigers board attempted to sign Ricky Stuart, now the Eels coach, and would welcome a buy-out of the last two years of Sheens's contract.

With Warriors co-owner Owen Glenn understood to be willing to provide big money to land the top coaching talent, a potential buy-out of either Bellamy's or Sheens's contracts can't be ignored.

Sheens certainly fits the bill of ''super-coach'' having won three titles with the Raiders in 1989, 1990 and 1994, in addition to his Tigers premiership. The Kangaroos coach is well liked and respected by players at the Tigers, with Kiwis skipper and Tigers playmaker Benji Marshall defending Sheens in his Sun-Herald column today, imploring his board to keep him at the club.

Sacked Roosters coach Brian Smith has also been suggested as a potential option for the Warriors, and would cost a lot less than Bellamy and Sheens, given he is without a job.

Smith's sacking could have future ramifications for the Roosters, as he was understood to have been an important part of luring Sonny Bill Williams to the club for a one-year deal next season.

Williams is understood to be considering a return to rugby in 2014 due to Smith's axing.

Scurrah declined to comment on any questions about the pursuit of Bellamy, Sheens or Smith.

He did not wish to be drawn into speculation that the club was to appoint a football general manager in addition to a new coach, either.

''We're looking at different options on our structure,'' he said. ''We haven't resolved anything and we're not going to resolve that until we know what our coach looks like.

''Certainly we're adding a lot more resources to football, and that was two or three months ago. That was with Brian [McClennan] as well.''

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Post by Tigerdave » Sun 09 Sep, 2012 12:40 pm

The Tigers board attempted to sign Ricky Stuart,
yeah?
is understood to be unhappy, after surviving an alleged boardroom coup this season.
and how did he survive? who the hell is meant to be running the club?..........as if we couldn't guess

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Post by 851 » Sun 09 Sep, 2012 12:42 pm

Poor old Timmy not happy that the board are looking at options,for the first time in his tenure he is expected to achieve results and fails,yet is cranky at the board,still in denial,no accountability for his actions no its my fault,go to the Warriors and go now.
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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 09 Sep, 2012 12:44 pm

LegendKiller wrote:THE Warriors' chances of landing a ''super coach'' have dramatically increased, with revelations overnight the club could have its preferred coaching choice installed at Mt Smart Stadium as early as next year.

With the cash-rich Roosters signing rookie coach Trent Robinson to a three-year deal on Friday, the Warriors are now positioned as the only club in the market for the Storm's Craig Bellamy, and the Tigers' Tim Sheens.

In recent days a $4 million bid for Bellamy's services was tabled for a three-year stint at Mt Smart. It is not known whether that figure included a buy-out of the final year of Bellamy's contract with the Storm, due to run out at the end of next season.

Warriors chief executive Wayne Scurrah declined to comment on the possible contract offer to ultimately replace the sacked Brian McClennan.
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But with Scurrah, recruitment boss Dean Bell and club chairman Bill Wavish in Sydney during the week, it is believed they had a meeting with Bellamy's agent John Fordham after the Dally Ms on Tuesday night.

Bellamy is regarded as one of the NRL's top coaches, after creating a formidable record at the Storm, and earning a reputation as a tough, uncompromising leader.

The services of Sheens, who is also the Kangaroos coach, are however, emerging as potential leverage for the Warriors' desire to land Bellamy. Despite re-signing with the Tigers for three years in 2011, Sheens, who won a premiership with the club in 2005, is understood to be unhappy, after surviving an alleged boardroom coup this season.

The Tigers board attempted to sign Ricky Stuart, now the Eels coach, and would welcome a buy-out of the last two years of Sheens's contract.

With Warriors co-owner Owen Glenn understood to be willing to provide big money to land the top coaching talent, a potential buy-out of either Bellamy's or Sheens's contracts can't be ignored.

Sheens certainly fits the bill of ''super-coach'' having won three titles with the Raiders in 1989, 1990 and 1994, in addition to his Tigers premiership. The Kangaroos coach is well liked and respected by players at the Tigers, with Kiwis skipper and Tigers playmaker Benji Marshall defending Sheens in his Sun-Herald column today, imploring his board to keep him at the club.

Sacked Roosters coach Brian Smith has also been suggested as a potential option for the Warriors, and would cost a lot less than Bellamy and Sheens, given he is without a job.

Smith's sacking could have future ramifications for the Roosters, as he was understood to have been an important part of luring Sonny Bill Williams to the club for a one-year deal next season.

Williams is understood to be considering a return to rugby in 2014 due to Smith's axing.

Scurrah declined to comment on any questions about the pursuit of Bellamy, Sheens or Smith.

He did not wish to be drawn into speculation that the club was to appoint a football general manager in addition to a new coach, either.

''We're looking at different options on our structure,'' he said. ''We haven't resolved anything and we're not going to resolve that until we know what our coach looks like.

''Certainly we're adding a lot more resources to football, and that was two or three months ago. That was with Brian [McClennan] as well.''

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Clearly upset the club seem to be unhappy and are looking for a bit of accountability. HOW BLOODY DARE THEY!!!

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Post by softlaw » Sun 09 Sep, 2012 12:48 pm

make him properly unhappy. If we can;t get rid of him then enforce kpi's.
Doesn;t matter if they mean anything or not, hopefully the thought of them will make him leave.

Unfortunately the longer this goes the more I think we'll have to put up with his incompetence for a couple more years at least.

What would be even worse is if our board get into a bidding match for his services and offer him a further extension and a guarantee we'll look after the useless garden gnome as well.
It's the sort of thing we'd do :(
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Post by jadtiger » Sun 09 Sep, 2012 12:59 pm

softlaw wrote:make him properly unhappy. If we can;t get rid of him then enforce kpi's.
Doesn;t matter if they mean anything or not, hopefully the thought of them will make him leave.

Unfortunately the longer this goes the more I think we'll have to put up with his incompetence for a couple more years at least.

What would be even worse is if our board get into a bidding match for his services and offer him a further extension and a guarantee we'll look after the useless garden gnome as well.
It's the sort of thing we'd do :(

God forbid :pray:

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Post by Marshall_magic » Sun 09 Sep, 2012 1:03 pm

851 wrote:Poor old Timmy not happy that the board are looking at options,for the first time in his tenure he is expected to achieve results and fails,yet is cranky at the board,still in denial,no accountability for his actions no its my fault,go to the Warriors and go now.
Maybe he will have Humpty sacked over this atrocity.

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Post by Snake » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 2:15 pm

As rumours go just heard on 2gb that Sheens to announce this week to be going to Warriors and Brown new Tigers coach! Could be all bull but who knows!

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Post by Frank the tank » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 2:17 pm

Yeah well we'll just wait and see
I'm not a complete idiot.............there are some pieces missing!

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Post by Tigersmurf » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 2:42 pm

I am crossing everything I can!

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Post by tiga4eva » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 3:01 pm

Snake wrote:As rumours go just heard on 2gb that Sheens to announce this week to be going to Warriors and Brown new Tigers coach! Could be all bull but who knows!
You sure mate?


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Post by Snake » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 3:05 pm

tiga4eva wrote:
Snake wrote:As rumours go just heard on 2gb that Sheens to announce this week to be going to Warriors and Brown new Tigers coach! Could be all bull but who knows!
You sure mate?


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Just heard it on the Rumour Mill one of those rumours one thinks just the messenger.

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Post by tiga4eva » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 3:08 pm

Snake wrote:
tiga4eva wrote:
Snake wrote:As rumours go just heard on 2gb that Sheens to announce this week to be going to Warriors and Brown new Tigers coach! Could be all bull but who knows!
You sure mate?


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Just heard it on the Rumour Mill one of those rumours one thinks just the messenger.

Bumped into Nathan on Saturday and he said we hadn't made an approach yet. Maybe he was foxing. He seemed sincere.


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Post by foreveratiger » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 3:10 pm

I'LL even drive him to the airport for nothing.... ;)
It depends who you talk to on this Forum, if you are Optimistic? it's because your delusional and need a reality check. If you are Pessimistic? Your accused of being a negative Nancy and to go and follow another Club.

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Post by Snake » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 3:13 pm

tiga4eva wrote:
Snake wrote:
tiga4eva wrote:
Snake wrote:As rumours go just heard on 2gb that Sheens to announce this week to be going to Warriors and Brown new Tigers coach! Could be all bull but who knows!
You sure mate?


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Just heard it on the Rumour Mill one of those rumours one thinks just the messenger.

Bumped into Nathan on Saturday and he said we hadn't made an approach yet. Maybe he was foxing. He seemed sincere.
I supose you have to be careful who you confide in these days with social media ...not that you would of posted if he said he was :)

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Post by snowleopard » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 3:14 pm

some stuff from warriors forum about sheens


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Conservative payout would be $0.00 cos the Tigers are happy to part with him. You only have to payout a club if you are getting a coach they want to keep.
it's reported that if sheens was to go early the tigers must honour 75% of his contract. Two years to go would be at least a million NZ. They tried to roll him earlier and replace him with Stuart but the deal fell over because of this payout clause. Sheens himself has said he'd go if they could pay him. They can't. In fact it seems the Tigers are strapped for cash, which would maybe suggest why Sheens would be happy to go.
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I don't think you are grasping how this is likely to be worked out. If the tigers were firing him then yes they would expect to pay him out. However if Sheens is leaving the club for another job then it is ridiculous to suggest he would expect that club to pay him 75% of his tigers wages and a full wage on top of that. What you will find is if he agrees to terms with the Warriors the Tigers will agree to release him early but not to pay him any compensation. At such time he will have two options stay at the tigers or go to the warriors. Of course the Tigers could demand a payment from the Warriors for releasing their coach but this is unlikely.

The clause is there to stop him being fired and with no job, you will find it won't be enacted if it is mutual agreement to move to another club


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Post by Snake » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 3:14 pm

tiga4eva wrote:
Snake wrote:
tiga4eva wrote:
Snake wrote:As rumours go just heard on 2gb that Sheens to announce this week to be going to Warriors and Brown new Tigers coach! Could be all bull but who knows!
You sure mate?


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Just heard it on the Rumour Mill one of those rumours one thinks just the messenger.

Bumped into Nathan on Saturday and he said we hadn't made an approach yet. Maybe he was foxing. He seemed sincere.
I supose you have to be careful who you confide in these days with social media ...not that you would of posted if he said he was :)

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Post by tiga4eva » Mon 10 Sep, 2012 3:16 pm

Snake wrote:
tiga4eva wrote:
Snake wrote:
tiga4eva wrote: You sure mate?


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Just heard it on the Rumour Mill one of those rumours one thinks just the messenger.

Bumped into Nathan on Saturday and he said we hadn't made an approach yet. Maybe he was foxing. He seemed sincere.
I supose you have to be careful who you confide in these days with social media ...not that you would of posted if he said he was

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YES I WOULD'VE


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