Player fire sale just weeks away

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Re: Player fire sale just weeks away

Unread post by GNR4LIFE » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 7:45 am

They were going to struggle enough as it is with their squad next year, it's only going to be worse if they have to move players on. Bottom 4 for Woodsy and the Dogs.


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Unread post by momo&medo » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 7:50 am

Tigerdon wrote:
Fri 04 Aug, 2017 6:40 pm
I'm not 100% on the details....but I think it was Grant at NRL HQ some time back that hinted the cap could be 10mil. Some clubs took this as gospel and signed up players, left, right and centre.
Then the NRL did a figures adjustment and said it would be 8.8 or something of the like. The clubs went Burko ..
Then the NRL came back with 9.2.
Which Clubs will be hurting most? Bulldogs , Penrith, Manly? Any others?
Good times !!!
The base figure NRL has currently offered is $9.2m including:
- $100k car allowance
- $400k integrity allowance
- $300 veteran player allowance

Apparently $400k integrity allowance is the sticking point in current negotiations ... NRL (want in in) Players association (want it out) and if it stays part of the $9.2m figure ..... 11 clubs will be overspent and will require to shed players.

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Unread post by tigerbenji » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:05 am

The N R L wont be to hard on the top Teams who are over, But if it was the battling Teams they would screw them, Rules for some & not for others.

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Unread post by Swordy » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:14 am

I think you will find that those power cubs that have overspent will force the hand of the NRL and they will make the cap whatever those clubs want it to be. If 10 clubs overspend, its easier to just put it up, and that's what will happen.

There will be no 'fire sale' or anything outside what is the usual offload of unwanted players. Clubs are only using that excuse now to shop around players.

Lets make the cap whatever each club wants it to be, but you are docked 2 points for every $100K you are over the official NRL cap. If you are over half a mill as some clubs will be, then docked 10 points. Then the NRL can say "We didn't force you to shed anyone, we gave you an option to honor contracts". It could really be that simple.
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Unread post by Pawsandclaws » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:31 am

It seems that the NRL are at least being pro active by requiring clubs over the cap to prepare management plans detailing how they will be cap compliant. This obviously has to include information about players to be moved on.


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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:34 am

tigerbenji wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:05 am
The N R L wont be to hard on the top Teams who are over, But if it was the battling Teams they would screw them, Rules for some & not for others.
The NRL told the Roosters that they wouldn't register Teddy's contract unless they were salary cap compliant.

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Unread post by Spud Murphy » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:35 am

With Canterbury having to shed, I wonder if it would be worth us targeting a Morris or two. Or do you think they are both past their best now?

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:36 am

Swordy wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:14 am
I think you will find that those power cubs that have overspent will force the hand of the NRL and they will make the cap whatever those clubs want it to be. If 10 clubs overspend, its easier to just put it up, and that's what will happen.

There will be no 'fire sale' or anything outside what is the usual offload of unwanted players. Clubs are only using that excuse now to shop around players.

Lets make the cap whatever each club wants it to be, but you are docked 2 points for every $100K you are over the official NRL cap. If you are over half a mill as some clubs will be, then docked 10 points. Then the NRL can say "We didn't force you to shed anyone, we gave you an option to honor contracts". It could really be that simple.
I suppose it depends if Greenberg has the balls to stand up to the likes of Dib, Nick and the other powerbrokers.

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Unread post by Pawsandclaws » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:39 am

Spud Murphy wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:35 am
With Canterbury having to shed, I wonder if it would be worth us targeting a Morris or two. Or do you think they are both past their best now?
We're better off targeting young players like Twal on the cusp of NRL selection. The Morris brothers have a younger brother who I'm told is very good but both are now 32 and one has a bad knee. We can do better.

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Unread post by jadtiger » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:57 am

Spud Murphy wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:35 am
With Canterbury having to shed, I wonder if it would be worth us targeting a Morris or two. Or do you think they are both past their best now?
Pass too old neither would be an asset and they probably would want 3 year deals

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Unread post by Pragmatist » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:59 am

I hope the Bulldogs struggle to off load players. Very few players that would be attractive to other clubs. Bulldogs fans are very mixed on whether they even want Woods as they see him as just another lumbering forward. Good times.

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 9:11 am

The Bulldogs are a bigger basket case then we were a few years ago, and it's not only Des that's the problem.

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Unread post by matchball » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 9:51 am

One word describes how I feel for these clubs perfectly.

Schadenfreude.

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Unread post by smithy » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 10:42 am

if the dogs are 800k over the cap as reported i would hate to be in their shoes.they will have to release at least 5 players to get under the cap.this is because clubs will expect the dogs to pay part of the contract and even if this happens those players will have to replaced with others.i think the minimum contract is around 120k...this is why we our team has struggled for the last couple of years.

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Unread post by matchball » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 10:52 am

smithy wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 10:42 am
if the dogs are 800k over the cap as reported i would hate to be in their shoes.they will have to release at least 5 players to get under the cap.this is because clubs will expect the dogs to pay part of the contract and even if this happens those players will have to replaced with others.i think the minimum contract is around 120k...this is why we our team has struggled for the last couple of years.
As a club with cash to spend, we can only benefit from it.
Let's hope we scrape up some class with them paying some of their salary for once.
Just once it would be nice to be getting a good deal.

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 10:58 am

We might get some good back up players clubs aren't going to release Nathan Cleary type players.

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Unread post by Nelson » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 11:11 am

bathursttiger wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 10:58 am
We might get some good back up players clubs aren't going to release Nathan Cleary type players.
Yeah I think players like Brenko Lee, Sam McKendry, Greg Eastwood, Jorge Taufua, Michael Lichaa, Lewis Brown, Jackson Hastings are the sort we are going to see clubs releasing or trying to move on. There might be the odd Peachey or Latu but for the most part it will be good depth options.

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 12:23 pm

Nelson wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 11:11 am
bathursttiger wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 10:58 am
We might get some good back up players clubs aren't going to release Nathan Cleary type players.
Yeah I think players like Brenko Lee, Sam McKendry, Greg Eastwood, Jorge Taufua, Michael Lichaa, Lewis Brown, Jackson Hastings are the sort we are going to see clubs releasing or trying to move on. There might be the odd Peachey or Latu but for the most part it will be good depth options.
There are some slim picking there Nelson, we might be lucky and jag a half decent player.

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