Player fire sale just weeks away

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Re: Player fire sale just weeks away

Unread post by cqtiger » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 2:50 pm

Nelson wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 11:11 am
bathursttiger wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 10:58 am
We might get some good back up players clubs aren't going to release Nathan Cleary type players.
Yeah I think players like Brenko Lee, Sam McKendry, Greg Eastwood, Jorge Taufua, Michael Lichaa, Lewis Brown, Jackson Hastings are the sort we are going to see clubs releasing or trying to move on. There might be the odd Peachey or Latu but for the most part it will be good depth options.
If some clubs are way over the suggested cap, as reported, just getting rid of average players won't cut it.
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Unread post by Red Rugby » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 2:58 pm

One thing to consider. To move a player on the club in question has to find a club to take the player they want to move on and the player has to agree to it. If you can't unload Player A and you need to get cap compliant then you'll need to offload Player B or Player C or whoever can find a home somewhere else.

If the Tigers hold their nerve I think there could be some nice rewards....

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 5:41 pm

Red Rugby wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 2:58 pm
One thing to consider. To move a player on the club in question has to find a club to take the player they want to move on and the player has to agree to it. If you can't unload Player A and you need to get cap compliant then you'll need to offload Player B or Player C or whoever can find a home somewhere else.

If the Tigers hold their nerve I think there could be some nice rewards....
Yes but you also need other clubs to do the same it is no use if we hold our nerve and Knights sign everything that moves.

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Unread post by diedpretty » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 6:06 pm

bathursttiger wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:34 am
tigerbenji wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:05 am
The N R L wont be to hard on the top Teams who are over, But if it was the battling Teams they would screw them, Rules for some & not for others.
The NRL told the Roosters that they wouldn't register Teddy's contract unless they were salary cap compliant.
When you think about that how could they become compliant when they don't know what the cap is. The whole thing is a total farce.

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Unread post by formerguest » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 6:15 pm

diedpretty wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 6:06 pm
bathursttiger wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:34 am
tigerbenji wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:05 am
The N R L wont be to hard on the top Teams who are over, But if it was the battling Teams they would screw them, Rules for some & not for others.
The NRL told the Roosters that they wouldn't register Teddy's contract unless they were salary cap compliant.
When you think about that how could they become compliant when they don't know what the cap is. The whole thing is a total farce.
Which begs the question, why hasn't Cam decided what it will be.


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Unread post by LARDS » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 7:38 am

diedpretty wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 6:06 pm
bathursttiger wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:34 am
tigerbenji wrote:
Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:05 am
The N R L wont be to hard on the top Teams who are over, But if it was the battling Teams they would screw them, Rules for some & not for others.
The NRL told the Roosters that they wouldn't register Teddy's contract unless they were salary cap compliant.
When you think about that how could they become compliant when they don't know what the cap is. The whole thing is a total farce.
The Bulldogs signed woods and Foran after they were told by the nrl to aim for a 8.9 (I Think) million cap.
So no sympathy there.

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 9:07 am

Interesting article by Adrian Prozenko in the SMH, about some clubs hitting the phones to other clubs trying to garner support to stop the $9.2mill salary cap coming into effect next year.
So far they haven't got enough clubs on board, they need 5 clubs to stop the agreement going ahead.
Wonder who the clubs are trying to stop the cap agreement? Bulldogs, Roosters, Penrith & ?
Also story that the Dogs are shopping players around without any takers.

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Unread post by Pawsandclaws » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:26 am

On Ch 9 just discussed the salary cap and Eastwood's case. He is on a heavily back payed deal and was told by the Bulldogs to leave or play reserve grade. Apparently he told whomever that he will stay and play reserve grade for three quarters of a million. This has got to blow up big time with Gallen being told by head of RLPA that all contracts will/must be honoured regardless of whether a club can fit them into their respective caps!

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Unread post by Pawsandclaws » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:30 am

bathursttiger wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 9:07 am
Interesting article by Adrian Prozenko in the SMH, about some clubs hitting the phones to other clubs trying to garner support to stop the $9.2mill salary cap coming into effect next year.
So far they haven't got enough clubs on board, they need 5 clubs to stop the agreement going ahead.
Wonder who the clubs are trying to stop the cap agreement? Bulldogs, Roosters, Penrith & ?
Also story that the Dogs are shopping players around without any takers.
Raiders are reported to be under the squeeze.

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:42 am

Pawsandclaws wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:30 am
bathursttiger wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 9:07 am
Interesting article by Adrian Prozenko in the SMH, about some clubs hitting the phones to other clubs trying to garner support to stop the $9.2mill salary cap coming into effect next year.
So far they haven't got enough clubs on board, they need 5 clubs to stop the agreement going ahead.
Wonder who the clubs are trying to stop the cap agreement? Bulldogs, Roosters, Penrith & ?
Also story that the Dogs are shopping players around without any takers.
Raiders are reported to be under the squeeze.
Paul Gallen said on WWOS today that the Broncos hadn't registered Jack Bird's contract yet, sounds like they might have a few problems too.

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:45 am

See Greg Eastwood is on $850K next year on a back ended contract, been told that he will play reggies next year if he doesn't leave.

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Unread post by 851 » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:52 am

bathursttiger wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:42 am
Pawsandclaws wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:30 am
bathursttiger wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 9:07 am
Interesting article by Adrian Prozenko in the SMH, about some clubs hitting the phones to other clubs trying to garner support to stop the $9.2mill salary cap coming into effect next year.
So far they haven't got enough clubs on board, they need 5 clubs to stop the agreement going ahead.
Wonder who the clubs are trying to stop the cap agreement? Bulldogs, Roosters, Penrith & ?
Also story that the Dogs are shopping players around without any takers.
Raiders are reported to be under the squeeze.
Paul Gallen said on WWOS today that the Broncos hadn't registered Jack Bird's contract yet, sounds like they might have a few problems too.
Bronco's are like the roosters, they will fit who they want to keep, and lose a token reggie or two, it sucks and the NRL put their head in the sand
Go hard or go home

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Unread post by Pawsandclaws » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:53 am

bathursttiger wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:45 am
See Greg Eastwood is on $850K next year on a back ended contract, been told that he will play reggies next year if he doesn't leave.
Perhaps the NRL are working behind the scenes but this type of incident being played out is a bad look especially in light of Foran and Woods being signed from lesser clubs when the Bulldogs were in no position to sign them.

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Unread post by Tiger Watto » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:55 am

There are huge challenges in moving on elite players over developing players. The elite players tend to decide there own futures.

The real winners from a fire sale could be players stuck in a rut or behind other players. Players like JJ Felise could end up in a swap deal and find himself at Melbourne, and we might end up with a Kenny Bromwich or Tim Glasby.

Win win really. JJ would go great in that type of structure and we could use the energy of a Glasby.

Make it happen Pascoe!
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Unread post by wt00 » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 12:42 pm

Nathan Brown on abc grandstand basically said the same thing - he knows plenty of clubs are over and knights are sitting and waiting to move. Similar to us i would say.
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Unread post by Chicken Faced Killa » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 12:48 pm

Pawsandclaws wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:53 am
bathursttiger wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:45 am
See Greg Eastwood is on $850K next year on a back ended contract, been told that he will play reggies next year if he doesn't leave.
Perhaps the NRL are working behind the scenes but this type of incident being played out is a bad look especially in light of Foran and Woods being signed from lesser clubs when the Bulldogs were in no position to sign them.
Eastwood should just say sorry I'm not leaving. Clubs shouldn't be able to say see owe you a heap of money but don't need you anymore so leave now. Clubs and players need to be more accountable to the contracts they sign

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Unread post by bathursttiger » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 1:41 pm

Chicken Faced Killa wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 12:48 pm
Pawsandclaws wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:53 am
bathursttiger wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:45 am
See Greg Eastwood is on $850K next year on a back ended contract, been told that he will play reggies next year if he doesn't leave.
Perhaps the NRL are working behind the scenes but this type of incident being played out is a bad look especially in light of Foran and Woods being signed from lesser clubs when the Bulldogs were in no position to sign them.
Eastwood should just say sorry I'm not leaving. Clubs shouldn't be able to say see owe you a heap of money but don't need you anymore so leave now. Clubs and players need to be more accountable to the contracts they sign
Eastwood has told them he'lll play reggies on $850K next year

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Unread post by Geo. » Sun 06 Aug, 2017 1:50 pm

Tiger Watto wrote:
Sun 06 Aug, 2017 10:55 am
There are huge challenges in moving on elite players over developing players. The elite players tend to decide there own futures.

The real winners from a fire sale could be players stuck in a rut or behind other players. Players like JJ Felise could end up in a swap deal and find himself at Melbourne, and we might end up with a Kenny Bromwich or Tim Glasby.

Win win really. JJ would go great in that type of structure and we could use the energy of a Glasby.

Make it happen Pascoe!
Can we get Jesse Bromwich and Dale Finucane or Felise Kafusi for JJ Instead..

Make it so Pascoe..
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Geo nailed it...

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