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Re: The Bus is FULL

Unread post by willow » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 3:27 pm

We're still waiting for the firesale to start. A couple of clubs are going to have to shed players.


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Unread post by Tiger Watto » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 3:33 pm

Too many cheap seats on our top 30 bus... Keep shopping Ivan and we can throw a few more off if needed!
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Unread post by Love the WestsTigers » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 3:44 pm

yeti wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 11:49 am
No to Hayne, and I would definitely offer Idris a low-ball contract if the medicos clear him.
i had forgotten about him

Id be inclined to keep Idris, Kevin and Grant as solid back ups if we dont sign anyone else

And fore sure re-sign ET

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Unread post by Spartan117 » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 4:23 pm

We need to stop selling ourselves as a club Short.

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Unread post by jadtiger » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 6:00 pm

Sabre wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 11:33 am
If Hayne gets shown the door today and we don't end up with Rona would you consider signing Hayne as a winger?
Never


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Unread post by bathursttiger » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 6:07 pm

The Telecrap on Sunday said the Bulldogs might even have to get rid of Klemmer of Josh Jackson, to become compliant next year.
I'd take Jackson without even hesitating.
I'm saving a seat on the bus for him or someone of his standard.

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Unread post by diedpretty » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 6:21 pm

willow wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 3:22 pm
diedpretty wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 11:30 am
Roar Power wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 10:39 am
Its definitely not full.

Apart from another back (Rona), we need a decent 2nd rower to complement the forward pack. maybe another seasoned prop.

We are on the right track though.
With an offseason training for the position i think Marsters could move to the 2nd row next year. Solid defender, runs good lines, good hands.
He's a backrower by trade, there won't really be a transition required for him.
Yes I knew he played backrow in lower grades. Thought it may be a big step up at NRL level. He has the right build for it and with a bit of fine tuning I think he could handle it.

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Unread post by Earl » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 6:54 pm

Yossarian wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 12:23 pm
NT Tiger wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 11:20 am
I still want to see Elijah Taylor re-signed
You will be happy then...
I hope so.

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Unread post by Yossarian » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 7:13 pm

bathursttiger wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 6:07 pm
The Telecrap on Sunday said the Bulldogs might even have to get rid of Klemmer of Josh Jackson, to become compliant next year.
I'd take Jackson without even hesitating.
I'm saving a seat on the bus for him or someone of his standard.
Their issue is that other clubs would need to pay the full contract or close to it and there are very few players who clubs are prepared to pay the whole amount to. Probably only Klemmer or Jackson. The Dogs are in such a terrible position they can't subsidise any contracts. If it was us it'd be on the back page every day.

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Unread post by Nelson » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 7:39 pm

Yossarian wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 7:13 pm
bathursttiger wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 6:07 pm
The Telecrap on Sunday said the Bulldogs might even have to get rid of Klemmer of Josh Jackson, to become compliant next year.
I'd take Jackson without even hesitating.
I'm saving a seat on the bus for him or someone of his standard.
Their issue is that other clubs would need to pay the full contract or close to it and there are very few players who clubs are prepared to pay the whole amount to. Probably only Klemmer or Jackson. The Dogs are in such a terrible position they can't subsidise any contracts. If it was us it'd be on the back page every day.
I reckon they could get the Warriors or Newcastle to pick up enough of the contract of James Graham to get them out of trouble. They'd end up paying $300K+ of his salary but it would only be one year and better to lose Graham at his age than lose Jackson or Klemmer who they have locked up for a few years.

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Unread post by Yossarian » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 7:48 pm

Nelson wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 7:39 pm
Yossarian wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 7:13 pm
bathursttiger wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 6:07 pm
The Telecrap on Sunday said the Bulldogs might even have to get rid of Klemmer of Josh Jackson, to become compliant next year.
I'd take Jackson without even hesitating.
I'm saving a seat on the bus for him or someone of his standard.
Their issue is that other clubs would need to pay the full contract or close to it and there are very few players who clubs are prepared to pay the whole amount to. Probably only Klemmer or Jackson. The Dogs are in such a terrible position they can't subsidise any contracts. If it was us it'd be on the back page every day.
I reckon they could get the Warriors or Newcastle to pick up enough of the contract of James Graham to get them out of trouble. They'd end up paying $300K+ of his salary but it would only be one year and better to lose Graham at his age than lose Jackson or Klemmer who they have locked up for a few years.
I don't think that'll do it.

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Unread post by Tigerdon » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 8:25 pm

VanillaThunder wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 3:11 pm
Can't forget that it's a top 30 next year on full time contracts. That's literally a first 17 plus the run-on side for reserve grade. Looking at our squad from that perspective, we've still got gaps to fill. Using Milky's thread as a bit of a guide plus a few hopeful signings of my own (marked with a *), here's what I've got.

1. Lolohea // Marshall-King
2. Nofoaluma // Watene-Zelezniak
3. Suli // Naiqama*
4. Fonua // Milne
5. Rona* // Thompson
6. Reynolds // Gamble
7. Brooks // Marshall
8. Matulino // Felise
9. Liddle // McIlwrick
10. Packer // Grant*
11. Taylor // Rochow
12. Lawrence // Idris*
13. Eisenhuth // Aloiai
14. Marsters
15. Twal
16. Sue
17. McQueen

There's question marks over the health of McQueen & Lawrence, no guarantees that we'll have either Rona or Naiqama, and that top 17 isn't ideal either (but I think will be closer to reality). Still leaves the likes of Tatola, Lolo, Chee-Kam, the new Newcastle kids and Heleta as squaddies for reserve grade.
There's definitely work to be done, especially if we don't see a few of those with an asterisk around next year.
We are well covered in the halves: Brooks, Reynolds , Lolohea, Marshall, Gamble.
With only Lolohea pencilled in at fullback , I think we need a bit more depth there. I would like Ivan to do a similar thing at fullback as to what he has done in the halves. (Sign a promising youngster Gamble and some cheap experience Benji). Maybe someone like Gordon and that Newcastle youngster .
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Unread post by Mr Magpie » Mon 14 Aug, 2017 11:44 pm

Sabre wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 11:33 am
If Hayne gets shown the door today and we don't end up with Rona would you consider signing Hayne as a winger?
No IMHO.
Apart from his ego and greedy play, he's nowhere near the player he once was.
And we don't need him. Stacks of talent at the Tigers now - great mix of young and experienced next season. I'm getting excited already.
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Unread post by Byron Bay Fan » Tue 15 Aug, 2017 5:59 am

MightyMaggy wrote:
Mon 14 Aug, 2017 12:08 pm
Sabre, I suggest you read the following, which I posted on another thread a few days ago.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 5a737faaac

After reading this critique, how could you consider signing this self-opinionated trouble-maker to our Club, which is now on the right track!
Years ago I thought he was bludging when playing for Parra - only a few runs a game if that. Tedesco is much better value for money.
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Unread post by WestsBenTigers » Tue 15 Aug, 2017 7:29 am

I think we are going to be fine next year. I will still like a backrower and prop but our pack is still looking alright. The Dogs are in trouble so I think we may get a quality forward from them or another struggling club.

FB: Tui/Heleta/Gamble/Benji/Nofa/Kev
Wing: Rona/Nofa/Milne/Fonua/Thompson/Kev/MWZ
Centre: Milne/Suli/Marsters/Idris/MWZ/Kev/Fonua/Tali
5/8: Grub/Benji/Gamble/Tui
Halback: Brooks/Benji/Gamble
Hooker: Liddle/MM/Benji/ET
Prop: Matulino/Packer/Twal/Eisenhuth/Felise/Grant/Sue/Aloiai/A new signing e.g. Woods or Graham or Klemmer
Backrow/Lock: Lawrence/ET/McQueen/Eisenhuth/Idris/Aloiai/Marsters/MCK/Sue/Possibly Jackson

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Unread post by shakey4d » Tue 15 Aug, 2017 8:17 am

WestsBenTigers wrote:
Tue 15 Aug, 2017 7:29 am
I think we are going to be fine next year. I will still like a backrower and prop but our pack is still looking alright. The Dogs are in trouble so I think we may get a quality forward from them or another struggling club.

FB: Tui/Heleta/Gamble/Benji/Nofa/Kev
Wing: Rona/Nofa/Milne/Fonua/Thompson/Kev/MWZ
Centre: Milne/Suli/Marsters/Idris/MWZ/Kev/Fonua/Tali
5/8: Grub/Benji/Gamble/Tui
Halback: Brooks/Benji/Gamble
Hooker: Liddle/MM/Benji/ET
Prop: Matulino/Packer/Twal/Eisenhuth/Felise/Grant/Sue/Aloiai/A new signing e.g. Woods or Graham or Klemmer
Backrow/Lock: Lawrence/ET/McQueen/Eisenhuth/Idris/Aloiai/Marsters/MCK/Sue/Possibly Jackson
If you add the additional 6 development players we have 36 positions to fill, or two full teams with a couple left over. That's one way to look at it. Based on ACTUAL signings to date, assumptions that Grant and Taylor extend and a few assumptions on who might be 'development' squad members, I think we still have up to 10 positions to fill in the roster next year.

SIGNED 2018
1. Tuimoala Lolohea
2. David Nofoaluma
3. Esan Masters
4. Moses Suli
5. Mahe Fonua
6. Josh Reynolds
7. Luke Brooks
8. Ben Matulino
9. Jacob Liddle
10. Russell Packer
11. Chris McQueen
12. Chris Lawrence
13. Josh Aloiai
14. Jesse Sue
15. Tim Grant (option?)
16. Elijah Taylor (option?)
17. Alex Twal

18.
19. Malakai Watene-Zelezniak
20. Taane Milne
21. Sam McIntyre (Development?)
22. Corey Thompson
23. Tyson Gamble (Development?)
24. Benji Marshall
25. JJ Felise
26. Matt McIlwrick
27.
28. Michael Chee-Kam
29. Heath Gibbs (Development?)
30.

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35.
36.

OFF CONTRACT
Kevin Naqaima
Matt Eisenhuth
Joel Edwards
Watson Heleta
Justin Hunt
Jack Littlejohn
Jamal Idris
Kyle Lovett
Junior Tatola
Bayley Sironen

Based on this, I think we still need more depth in:
• fullback
• few props / lock
• second row
• hooker
• utility back

I think we should try to retain Naqaima, Eisenhuth, Tatola and Idris and keep an eye out for a decent fullback and some forwards.

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Unread post by vlad » Tue 15 Aug, 2017 11:59 am

Ivan was on dead set legends last night talking about Sunday's game but also about recruitment & depth of the squad moving forward .

He comes in at 21.35 into this podcast

http://player.triplem.com.au/sydney/#/s ... gends/8001

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Unread post by Mr Magpie » Tue 15 Aug, 2017 12:06 pm

Hayne hasn't even left the Titans and we get a glimpse of the damage he can do.
According to Fox, Neil Henry is to be sacked and Hayne kept.
Money could be part of it but...

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... c22a3c3499
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