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Re: Wests Tigers 2017 Presentation Night

Unread post by tigeress » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 11:07 am

maxxy86 wrote:
Wed 06 Sep, 2017 10:56 pm
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Eisenhuth should of been Rookie OTY. Then Suli (or McIlwrick if he qualified). All of those should of been in front of Liddle, odd decision to pick him IMO. Didn't really do anything this year. Very strange.
To me it should have been the huth or marsters....all liddle was good at was throwing forward passes.
Me too - I was very surprised that Liddle picked up the award as he has only played a handful of games, whereas Masters played more and got a few tries to boot :crazy very strange :roll:


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Unread post by Russell » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 12:31 pm

tigeress wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 11:07 am
maxxy86 wrote:
Wed 06 Sep, 2017 10:56 pm
Fade To Black wrote:
Wed 06 Sep, 2017 4:49 pm
Eisenhuth should of been Rookie OTY. Then Suli (or McIlwrick if he qualified). All of those should of been in front of Liddle, odd decision to pick him IMO. Didn't really do anything this year. Very strange.
To me it should have been the huth or marsters....all liddle was good at was throwing forward passes.
Me too - I was very surprised that Liddle picked up the award as he has only played a handful of games, whereas Masters played more and got a few tries to boot :crazy very strange :roll:
Huth played 11 NRL games (0 tries) and Marsters played 13 NRL games (5 tries).

Liddle has played 13 NRL games (+ 1 in 2016) - 4 tries.

So much for Marsters playing more games and I don't think tries has anything to do with the award really.

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Unread post by ku5tom » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 1:34 pm

Fulton discusses Wests Tigers Life Membership

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2017 ... s_wes.html

Liam Fulton talks about what it means to him to be inducted as a Life Member of Wests Tigers after he was awarded with the honour at the Club's Kelly-Barnes Award.

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Unread post by voice of reason » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:22 pm

Russell wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 12:31 pm
So much for Marsters playing more games and I don't think tries has anything to do with the award really.
Just MHO but I would suggest minutes played would be a more reliable metric. That aside, he won the award so good luck to him. The fact we're discussing it means there were several in the running and that can only be a good thing for the future.
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Unread post by Russell » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:27 pm

voice of reason wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:22 pm
Russell wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 12:31 pm
So much for Marsters playing more games and I don't think tries has anything to do with the award really.
Just MHO but I would suggest minutes played would be a more reliable metric. That aside, he won the award so good luck to him. The fact we're discussing it means there were several in the running and that can only be a good thing for the future.
Thanks - point taken V of R. Another way of looking at it - as well as minutes played would be the amount of those minutes being involved in the game. Not many players are in the game as much as a DH.


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Unread post by stryker » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 4:11 pm

Russell wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:27 pm
voice of reason wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:22 pm
Russell wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 12:31 pm
So much for Marsters playing more games and I don't think tries has anything to do with the award really.
Just MHO but I would suggest minutes played would be a more reliable metric. That aside, he won the award so good luck to him. The fact we're discussing it means there were several in the running and that can only be a good thing for the future.
Thanks - point taken V of R. Another way of looking at it - as well as minutes played would be the amount of those minutes being involved in the game. Not many players are in the game as much as a DH.
The fact that some thought Liddle didnt play much this year shows that he really didnt stand out. Macca has the front running for 9 next year.

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Unread post by WestsBenTigers » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 5:35 pm

stryker wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 4:11 pm
Russell wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:27 pm
voice of reason wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:22 pm
Russell wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 12:31 pm
So much for Marsters playing more games and I don't think tries has anything to do with the award really.
Just MHO but I would suggest minutes played would be a more reliable metric. That aside, he won the award so good luck to him. The fact we're discussing it means there were several in the running and that can only be a good thing for the future.
Thanks - point taken V of R. Another way of looking at it - as well as minutes played would be the amount of those minutes being involved in the game. Not many players are in the game as much as a DH.
The fact that some thought Liddle didnt play much this year shows that he really didnt stand out. Macca has the front running for 9 next year.
Liddle did stand out and MM played 1090 minutes compared to Liddle's 530

Liddle should be the starting hooker next year unless we sign Cameron Smith.

Just for fun, here is a comparison between Smith:
Liddles scores 0.23 tries per game
Smith scores 0.10 tries per game

Liddle makes 0.31 line breaks per game
Smith makes 0.05 line breaks per game

Liddle misses 2.15 tackles per game
Smith misses 2.25 tackles per game

Liddle makes 0.92 hit-ups per game
Smith makes 0.75 hit-ups per game

Liddle makes 0.92 tackles break per game
Smith makes 0.90 tackle breaks per game

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Unread post by voice of reason » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 6:18 pm

WestsBenTigers wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 5:35 pm
Liddle did stand out and MM played 1090 minutes compared to Liddle's 530

Liddle should be the starting hooker next year unless we sign Cameron Smith.

Just for fun, here is a comparison between Smith:
Liddles scores 0.23 tries per game
Smith scores 0.10 tries per game

Liddle makes 0.31 line breaks per game
Smith makes 0.05 line breaks per game

Liddle misses 2.15 tackles per game
Smith misses 2.25 tackles per game

Liddle makes 0.92 hit-ups per game
Smith makes 0.75 hit-ups per game

Liddle makes 0.92 tackles break per game
Smith makes 0.90 tackle breaks per game
That's probably a good example of why stats can be misleading. One is widely regarded as the GOAT and the other is a promising, unproven youngster trying to make his way onto first grade.

Just for the record, I hate Smith.
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Unread post by stryker » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 6:23 pm

WestsBenTigers wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 5:35 pm
stryker wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 4:11 pm
Russell wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:27 pm
voice of reason wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:22 pm

Just MHO but I would suggest minutes played would be a more reliable metric. That aside, he won the award so good luck to him. The fact we're discussing it means there were several in the running and that can only be a good thing for the future.
Thanks - point taken V of R. Another way of looking at it - as well as minutes played would be the amount of those minutes being involved in the game. Not many players are in the game as much as a DH.
The fact that some thought Liddle didnt play much this year shows that he really didnt stand out. Macca has the front running for 9 next year.
Liddle did stand out and MM played 1090 minutes compared to Liddle's 530

Liddle should be the starting hooker next year unless we sign Cameron Smith.

Just for fun, here is a comparison between Smith:
Liddles scores 0.23 tries per game
Smith scores 0.10 tries per game

Liddle makes 0.31 line breaks per game
Smith makes 0.05 line breaks per game

Liddle misses 2.15 tackles per game
Smith misses 2.25 tackles per game

Liddle makes 0.92 hit-ups per game
Smith makes 0.75 hit-ups per game

Liddle makes 0.92 tackles break per game
Smith makes 0.90 tackle breaks per game
Dear oh dear.... :oops:
I now believe you are only very young.

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Unread post by yeti » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 6:32 pm

stryker wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 6:23 pm
WestsBenTigers wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 5:35 pm
stryker wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 4:11 pm
Russell wrote:
Fri 08 Sep, 2017 3:27 pm


Thanks - point taken V of R. Another way of looking at it - as well as minutes played would be the amount of those minutes being involved in the game. Not many players are in the game as much as a DH.
The fact that some thought Liddle didnt play much this year shows that he really didnt stand out. Macca has the front running for 9 next year.
Liddle did stand out and MM played 1090 minutes compared to Liddle's 530

Liddle should be the starting hooker next year unless we sign Cameron Smith.

Just for fun, here is a comparison between Smith:
Liddles scores 0.23 tries per game
Smith scores 0.10 tries per game

Liddle makes 0.31 line breaks per game
Smith makes 0.05 line breaks per game

Liddle misses 2.15 tackles per game
Smith misses 2.25 tackles per game

Liddle makes 0.92 hit-ups per game
Smith makes 0.75 hit-ups per game

Liddle makes 0.92 tackles break per game
Smith makes 0.90 tackle breaks per game
Dear oh dear.... :oops:
I now believe you are only very young.
He did say it was for fun! I don't believe for one moment the poster is suggesting Liddle is in anyway in Smith's league.

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Unread post by Geo. » Fri 08 Sep, 2017 6:48 pm

Liddle honoured with Rookie of the Year Award

Thu 7th September, 12:00PM
Jacob Liddle Rookie of the Year


Wests Tigers young gun hooker Jacob Liddle says he feels incredibly honoured and excited to be named the Club's Rookie of the Year after his first full season in the NRL.

Coming in to the season in fierce competition with Matt Ballin and Matt McIlwrick for time in the middle, Liddle relished the opportunities afforded to him throughout the year — featuring as the Club's starting hooker before picking up a season-ending shoulder injury.

With one surgery done and the other shoulder scheduled in for early next week (allowing him to return ready for season 2018), Liddle reflected on how season 2017 had been for him.

"It's been a massive year for me," he said.

"I wasn't expecting it coming in to this season — I was just wanting to get a big pre-season under my belt but the coaching staff gave me the opportunity and I've tried to embrace it.

"I'm really thankful for the opportunity they've given me.

"I couldn't have asked for anything more — I didn't expect to have the chance I have.

"The way Ivan is going with the Club is really exciting," he added.

"All the new signings and new faces coming in should be really good."

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2017 ... _with.html

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Geo nailed it...

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