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Wests Tigers TRIES - 2017..

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:22 pm
by Geo.


Surprised Brooks is in a few..

Re: Wests Tigers TRIES - 2017..

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 7:54 pm
by WTArmy
Great stuff from Brooksy!

Re: Wests Tigers TRIES - 2017..

Posted: Thu 14 Sep, 2017 8:43 am
by greatodensraven
Hopefully it goes for an hour next year!

Re: Wests Tigers TRIES - 2017..

Posted: Thu 14 Sep, 2017 10:11 am
by tig_prmz
K Naiqama was in quite a few of them. Noffa is a great finisher and obviously really good at carting it out from our own half, but his defense and his speed is a real worry.

Worryingly, a lot of our tries near the goal line were quite fluky with rebounds and rikochets, that's a sort of worry because our planned moves aren't coming along as well. However, you could also say that we did well to reach upfield anyway.

defence as always needs a lot of work, but we were 2nd least try scorers this year and our marquee signing is the half of the only club that scored less than us. we need a lot of work.

Re: Wests Tigers TRIES - 2017..

Posted: Thu 14 Sep, 2017 10:12 am
by jirskyr
I wasn't keeping count exactly but how many of those tries were scored by or the final pass given by Naiqama? NRL has him finishing the season with 4 try assists but there were more than 4 final passes in that video when he was at fullback or centre. And he scored 9 tries.

No offence to Tedesco but it does give you some perspective when in 2017 Frozone scores 9 and officially 4 try assists + 6 line breaks, Tedesco scores 5 with 8 try assists + 12 line breaks. Tedesco asks for a million bucks per year, Frozone re-signs for 1 season at a fraction of that cost.

And just for consistency looking at defence, Frozone missed 56 out of 303 tackle attempts = 81.52% effective, but Tedesco missed 32 out of 109 tackle attempts = 70.64% effective. Sure Tedesco is a FB and some of those tackles are difficult, but Frozone played FB this year as well. And as a comparison (random sample of fullbacks) Turbo was 79.23% effective, Dylan Edwards is 83.33% effective, Darius Boyd is 90.24% effective, Coote is 72.72% effective, Wighton was 79.70% effective - Tedesco was bottom of the pile when I looked at it mid-season, and he finished bottom of the pile again.

For a million bucks from Tedesco you are getting tackle breaks and offloads?

Re: Wests Tigers TRIES - 2017..

Posted: Thu 14 Sep, 2017 10:56 am
by Russell
jirskyr wrote:
Thu 14 Sep, 2017 10:12 am
I wasn't keeping count exactly but how many of those tries were scored by or the final pass given by Naiqama? NRL has him finishing the season with 4 try assists but there were more than 4 final passes in that video when he was at fullback or centre. And he scored 9 tries.

No offence to Tedesco but it does give you some perspective when in 2017 Frozone scores 9 and officially 4 try assists + 6 line breaks, Tedesco scores 5 with 8 try assists + 12 line breaks. Tedesco asks for a million bucks per year, Frozone re-signs for 1 season at a fraction of that cost.

And just for consistency looking at defence, Frozone missed 56 out of 303 tackle attempts = 81.52% effective, but Tedesco missed 32 out of 109 tackle attempts = 70.64% effective. Sure Tedesco is a FB and some of those tackles are difficult, but Frozone played FB this year as well. And as a comparison (random sample of fullbacks) Turbo was 79.23% effective, Dylan Edwards is 83.33% effective, Darius Boyd is 90.24% effective, Coote is 72.72% effective, Wighton was 79.70% effective - Tedesco was bottom of the pile when I looked at it mid-season, and he finished bottom of the pile again.

For a million bucks from Tedesco you are getting tackle breaks and offloads?
Good post Jirskyr.

Re: Wests Tigers TRIES - 2017..

Posted: Thu 14 Sep, 2017 5:27 pm
by Sco77y
Russell wrote:
Thu 14 Sep, 2017 10:56 am
jirskyr wrote:
Thu 14 Sep, 2017 10:12 am
I wasn't keeping count exactly but how many of those tries were scored by or the final pass given by Naiqama? NRL has him finishing the season with 4 try assists but there were more than 4 final passes in that video when he was at fullback or centre. And he scored 9 tries.

No offence to Tedesco but it does give you some perspective when in 2017 Frozone scores 9 and officially 4 try assists + 6 line breaks, Tedesco scores 5 with 8 try assists + 12 line breaks. Tedesco asks for a million bucks per year, Frozone re-signs for 1 season at a fraction of that cost.

And just for consistency looking at defence, Frozone missed 56 out of 303 tackle attempts = 81.52% effective, but Tedesco missed 32 out of 109 tackle attempts = 70.64% effective. Sure Tedesco is a FB and some of those tackles are difficult, but Frozone played FB this year as well. And as a comparison (random sample of fullbacks) Turbo was 79.23% effective, Dylan Edwards is 83.33% effective, Darius Boyd is 90.24% effective, Coote is 72.72% effective, Wighton was 79.70% effective - Tedesco was bottom of the pile when I looked at it mid-season, and he finished bottom of the pile again.

For a million bucks from Tedesco you are getting tackle breaks and offloads?
Good post Jirskyr.
Yeah good stuff, gives you a different perspective when looking into those details that most people seem not to notice. Interesting..

Re: Wests Tigers TRIES - 2017..

Posted: Tue 19 Sep, 2017 12:10 pm
by sheer64
jirskyr wrote:
Thu 14 Sep, 2017 10:12 am
I wasn't keeping count exactly but how many of those tries were scored by or the final pass given by Naiqama? NRL has him finishing the season with 4 try assists but there were more than 4 final passes in that video when he was at fullback or centre. And he scored 9 tries.

No offence to Tedesco but it does give you some perspective when in 2017 Frozone scores 9 and officially 4 try assists + 6 line breaks, Tedesco scores 5 with 8 try assists + 12 line breaks. Tedesco asks for a million bucks per year, Frozone re-signs for 1 season at a fraction of that cost.

And just for consistency looking at defence, Frozone missed 56 out of 303 tackle attempts = 81.52% effective, but Tedesco missed 32 out of 109 tackle attempts = 70.64% effective. Sure Tedesco is a FB and some of those tackles are difficult, but Frozone played FB this year as well. And as a comparison (random sample of fullbacks) Turbo was 79.23% effective, Dylan Edwards is 83.33% effective, Darius Boyd is 90.24% effective, Coote is 72.72% effective, Wighton was 79.70% effective - Tedesco was bottom of the pile when I looked at it mid-season, and he finished bottom of the pile again.

For a million bucks from Tedesco you are getting tackle breaks and offloads?
Can't wait to see us without the divas. No more defensive lines being set as Woods takes an eternity to play the ball, no more fullback only passing when it suits him. And not to mention only half the missed tackles in our halves. Bring on 2018!