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Re: Moses Suli

Post by foreveratiger » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 10:39 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:Dumb decision
x2 , we haven't learn't nothing with Brooks when he was touted as the next Johns :blah :blah :blah .

The bottom line is he is untried at NRL level and we are not a Club that can afford the luxury of spending such money for a kid who will most likely play lower Grades for the next 2 years .

Hope it all works out and that Harry came to the party with this signing :roll:
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Post by southerntiger » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 10:41 am

fergiefurr wrote:
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GNR4LIFE wrote:Dumb decision
Why?
We're already pretty heavily invested in potential. If we had that kind of money to spend it might have been better used to get a proven talent with experience. Imagine if we'd thrown this sort of money at Marion Seve a few years ago...
Fair comparison with Seve. I suppose the difference is Suli looks physically ready for NRL today whereas Seve was always a bit on the small side for a modern day outside back.
Yep and the decision for Seve to leave was never based on money but his belief that he would get more a go at the Broncos. Seve's other big problem is that he didnt seem to have the speed in NYC that he had as schoolboy. Lacking size and not having genuine pace, I have struggled to see how he can make it as a first grader.

Seve never had the suitors that Suli did.

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Post by stryker » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:03 am

Im appalled at this decision. I dont care if the kid is the next immortal, he aint worth a bucket of spit presently as a player.

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Post by Geo. » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:07 am

Official...http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2017 ... its_t.html

Moses Suli commits to Wests Tigers

Wests Tigers Media

Sun 29th January, 09:00AM

Wests Tigers are pleased to announce that the Club has re-signed exciting young centre Moses Suli for a further three seasons.

The new deal will see Suli remain with Wests Tigers until at least the end of the 2020 season.

The Fairfield United junior played both Harold Matthews and SG Ball for the Balmain Tigers, progressing through to Wests Tigers’ Under 20s in 2016 at just 17 years of age.

Suli played two Holden Cup games in 2016, with the outside back scoring tries in both games, wins over the Melbourne Storm and the Canberra Raiders.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said he was very pleased that Suli had decided to continue his playing career with the Club.

“As a Club, we’re very excited to see Moses remain with Wests Tigers,” he said.

“Considering the interest in Moses from a number of different clubs, it’s clear that he has an abundance of talent and potential, and we’re thoroughly pleased to be able to watch him continue his progression here.

“It’s also extremely exciting for the Members and fans of this Club to see a future first-grade centre commit his future to Wests Tigers.”

Wests Tigers Head Coach Jason Taylor said that he looked forward to seeing Suli develop further at the Club, having seen a rapid improvement in the 18-year-old.

“We’ve been keeping a close eye on him for a little while now, so it’s really great that we’ve been able to secure Moses at Wests Tigers,” Taylor said

“Anyone who has watched him in our junior representative teams has had their eye on him, and while his size and strength obviously stand out, it’s been his awareness of where to be and what to do in the games and pre-season training that has really impressed the coaching staff and has us all really excited.

“He spent a bit of time with our first-grade team over this pre-season and that’s when we realised that he’s got something special in how he handled that experience.

“We’re looking forward to having him in and around our NRL group over the next few years, because we know that everything he gains there will only help him further.”

18-year-old Suli said that he was happy to have his future secured ahead of the 2017 season.

“It’s really exciting, and I can’t wait to get out there on the field,” Suli said.

“I only played a few games last year and then got injured, but I’m back in training now and it’s been great to be out there with the senior guys in training.

“I’m hoping to have a crack at first-grade as soon as possible, but I’m keen to just keep working hard and do my best.

“This Club gave me a shot when I was 15 years of age. I’ve loved every second being here and can’t wait for what’s to come in the years ahead.

Suli has already represented New South Wales in an Under 16s Origin match in 2014 and was initially selected in the New South Wales Under 18s squad for 2016.

MOSES SULI PLAYER PROFILE

Date of Birth — 9th June, 1998

Height — 189cm

Weight — 106kg

Position — Centre, Wing

Junior Club — Fairfield United

Rep. Honours — NSW U/16's Origin (2014)
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Post by 851 » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:26 am

Bellamy and Hasler were after him, or were they pushing his price up to have a crack at one of our other off contract stars. We badly need a decent outside back with pace and size, so lets hope it works out.
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Post by hammertime » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:27 am

Benjirific wrote:Great to have a kid from within our system signed up - but when we continue to have salary cap issues, it's a bit rich of the current administration to simply blame the previous board prior to the independents. Farah aside, the issues we're experiencing now are a result of the people either in place now or directly previous to them (Mayer, Moss etc).
Um, the new board started in 2014, they got rid of Mayer mid 2015. How long do you think backloaded 2-4 year contracts last to roll off? Pretty simple equation mate. The issues this year aren't current admin. Next year, yes.

I like this signing. Centre and a kicker. The fact Bellamy and Hasler were bidding, say we probably paid what he was worth.

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Post by Pawsandclaws » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:28 am

fergiefurr wrote:The SMH article is a tad misleading. It's really a four year deal which doesn't sound as bad. As others have mentioned I'd say it's heavily incentive based. Anyways whatever we spent I suppose it's nice that we were able to beat out glamour clubs like the dogs and storm for an in demand kid.
What most impressed me with Suli is his defence on the right hand side of the field. The players around him have confidence in his ability to defend. For a young player, his composure impressed me as well as his willingness to take the hard hit ups close to our line. His size and pace speaks for itself but if ever a team needed a specialist right hand centre who is big, fast and can defend, it is WTs. Well done WTs Management.

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Post by innsaneink » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:37 am

He better be worth it

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Post by 2041 » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 11:57 am

foreveratiger wrote:
GNR4LIFE wrote:Dumb decision
x2 , we haven't learn't nothing with Brooks when he was touted as the next Johns :blah :blah :blah .

The bottom line is he is untried at NRL level and we are not a Club that can afford the luxury of spending such money for a kid who will most likely play lower Grades for the next 2 years .

Hope it all works out and that Harry came to the party with this signing :roll:
We also don't have the luxury of investing nothing in junior development and just poaching the cream of other clubs' systems when they're ready to contribute.

The only way a club like ours can compete is to have a lot of young talent, correctly identify which players are going to make it and lock them up before bigger money lures them away.

I don't know whether this guy is going to be a gun at NRL level. But this kind of move is exactly what the club has to do. If we wait until he's a proven first grader we'll lose him, so we have to take a chance.

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Post by rialto » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 12:10 pm

Pawsandclaws wrote:
fergiefurr wrote:The SMH article is a tad misleading. It's really a four year deal which doesn't sound as bad. As others have mentioned I'd say it's heavily incentive based. Anyways whatever we spent I suppose it's nice that we were able to beat out glamour clubs like the dogs and storm for an in demand kid.
What most impressed me with Suli is his defence on the right hand side of the field. The players around him have confidence in his ability to defend. For a young player, his composure impressed me as well as his willingness to take the hard hit ups close to our line. His size and pace speaks for itself but if ever a team needed a specialist right hand centre who is big, fast and can defend, it is WTs. Well done WTs Management.

Well said Padsandclaws - never thought I would ever be agreeing with you, but I guess there is a first time for everything.
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Post by king sirro » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 12:11 pm

If he signed elsewhere everyone would go mad at losing a good prospect in a position we need.

I think these days its easier to judge if a player is going to make it through the physical testing and opposed sessions they do. Of course that doesnt guarantee it, but its more of an educated guess these days, especially when the kids is already in your system like Suli is. We have obviously had a good look at him snd his personality too.
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Post by Buffalo » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 12:16 pm

Hope they know what they're doing. Opening up the cheque book when the new cap won't be known for months has its risks. I'm expecting a couple of exits before 30 June

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Post by jasetiger » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 12:25 pm

Hope the promise lives up to the hype . Karl Filiga comes to mind....
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Post by jadtiger » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 12:39 pm

jasetiger wrote:Hope the hype lives up to the promise .Not another Karl Filiga.
Its the chance you take, would you rather see him go to the dogs or storm?If that happened and he is a success we would all be screaming the house down about poor retention of our players.Sometimes you just have to take a punt.

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Post by bp tiger » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 1:03 pm

if he is as good as they say what a backline we could have, late this year or next year.

teddy
simona
suli
idris
nofa
moses
brooks
and if some of the young forwards come on we will have pack to look after them MAYBE GOOD TIMES AHEAD.

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Post by Tigerdon » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 1:06 pm

The WTs have so many talented juniors that come through our system, every now and then some develope into good rep players, like Benji,Farah,Woods,Teddy .There has been interest in Lots of our juniors but not to this level. I'm not aware of any (apart from Benji) that had so many other clubs vying to sign them up on big coin.
Yes it's a gamble, however he has been in the Tigers system since he was 15. So at least WTs coaches and management have been able to assess Suli over the years, rather than watching YouTube highlights packages.
If a lot of top NRL coaches see a lot of potential in a particular player and he has come onto the market in a position we are light on at NRL level, I'm glad we have gone for him.. As opposed to going to the market (along with every other club) with a cheque book, hoping to sign the next big starJunior that they no little about, other than hype.
It looks like a calculated gamble.
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Post by Newtown » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 1:09 pm

851 wrote:Bellamy and Hasler were after him, or were they pushing his price up to have a crack at one of our other off contract stars. We badly need a decent outside back with pace and size, so lets hope it works out.
Is it true that he is also a handy goalkicker?

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 1:27 pm

Interesting to see what happens with Lovett now. Maybe he will get the arse.

I hope the club know what they are doing. He is big and quick but we've taken high priced gambles on rookies before with mixed results. Hopefully he's a Marshall and not a Brooks.
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