Cleary's - "back to the future" prediction ?!

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Cleary's - "back to the future" prediction ?!

Post by Eddie » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:38 pm

I was interested listening to Pascoe and Cleary's Christmas Message when Cleary told the really tragic Tigers fans to look out for a bit of "back to the future" . He said he couldn't give too much away but he left it at that.

I assume he was talking about game style given the question was surrounding style of play and structures a little bit. This got me thinking was he referring to the 2005 type football of throwing caution to the wind and moving the ball around a lot more? I personally don't think so as I don't think we have the speed or skill in our side this year to pull off that sort of style?!

Maybe we was talking about right back at the start of the merger in 2000, then we had made a heap of new signings, many very experienced heads like we have done this time. We played a hard nosed brand of football and were not turned over by anyone until it all went pear shaped late in the season. This seemed more likely to me although it would be strange to hap back to a season that was ultimately unsuccessful?!

Thats why I thought of 2005 first.

Does anyone have any clues what he was talking about with this "back to the future prediction"

Somethings besides game style?


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Post by Geo. » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:48 pm

Cleary was referring to the tough as guts Wests sides of the 70's early 80's and the Balmain sides early 90's...most of those sides didn't have the greatest talents but you knew you were in a game when you played them...they played for each other..

Mental toughnes to play the game to the death for 80 regardless of the scoreboard... I feel we started to see that in the backend of last year...
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Post by jadtiger » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:50 pm

I hope it means that the uncompromising style of both Balmain and the magpies will be on show.If we lose a game make the other mob limp of the field sick and sore and never give up.That attitude will win us more matches than we lose,if you look at the make up of the team that style should suit the players we have

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:51 pm

The ad lib style we play is dead. If you look at our spine, its not one that is going to throw the ball around. Its about time we left that style behind and grow up.

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Post by jadtiger » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:53 pm

Geo. wrote:
Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:48 pm
Cleary was referring to the tough as guts Wests sides of the 70's early 80's and the Balmain sides early 90's...most of those sides didn't have the greatest talents but you knew you were in a game when you played them...they played for each other..

Mental toughnes to play the game to the death for 80 regardless of the scoreboard... I feel we started to see that in the backend of last year...
Lol i was typing out my reply when you where finishing yours


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Post by Tigerdon » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:55 pm

Ivan "Billy Beane from Moneyball" Cleary!
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Post by supercoach » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 6:15 pm

Eddie, looking at our roster there is only one way they can go and that is the old rip and tare. With a real lack of speed and short on the X factor, they have very little choice. Also with so many new faces, it will be all about keeping it simple.

My worry will that style of football work in 2018. Souths were the last team to win a comp based on muscles and brawn

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Post by innsaneink » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 6:32 pm

If it - whatever it is - works, it'll be re-hashed

If it doesnt, it'll be forgotten

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Post by willow » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 8:09 pm

As Geo suggested, a tough-as-nails approach perhaps. We're all aware that Cleary hasn't bought superstars but he has bought some talent and players who compete for the 80 minutes. I think his primary focus is to get the players to buy-in that it's all about the team effort rather than the individual brilliance we have been known for, such as what Marshall and Farah used to bring, and then the likes of Brooks/Moses/Tedesco. Can't pin your hopes on one player to win the game for you...

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 10:25 pm

Geo. wrote:
Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:48 pm
Cleary was referring to the tough as guts Wests sides of the 70's early 80's and the Balmain sides early 90's...most of those sides didn't have the greatest talents but you knew you were in a game when you played them...they played for each other..

Mental toughnes to play the game to the death for 80 regardless of the scoreboard... I feel we started to see that in the backend of last year...
Thats is about all we can ask for in 2018

Beyond that we need to sign some talent in the needed positions and play with the 2018 intensity

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Post by tigerap » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 11:32 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Mon 08 Jan, 2018 5:51 pm
The ad lib style we play is dead. If you look at our spine, its not one that is going to throw the ball around. Its about time we left that style behind and grow up.
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Post by gallagher » Mon 08 Jan, 2018 11:42 pm

How long till someone tags it Clearyball? Next year will be that up the middle, kick long, mistake free footy. It's what we have to do but some fans won't like it if we arnt winning much.

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Post by happy tiger » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 12:04 am

gallagher wrote:
Mon 08 Jan, 2018 11:42 pm
How long till someone tags it Clearyball? Next year will be that up the middle, kick long, mistake free footy. It's what we have to do but some fans won't like it if we arnt winning much.
I think the difference is we have the personnel more suited to play that type of footy

But you are correct if things go pear shaped some will blame Cleary

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Post by Eddie » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 12:33 am

happy tiger wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 12:04 am
gallagher wrote:
Mon 08 Jan, 2018 11:42 pm
How long till someone tags it Clearyball? Next year will be that up the middle, kick long, mistake free footy. It's what we have to do but some fans won't like it if we arnt winning much.
I think the difference is we have the personnel more suited to play that type of footy

Exactly.

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Post by gallagher » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 12:48 am

happy tiger wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 12:04 am
gallagher wrote:
Mon 08 Jan, 2018 11:42 pm
How long till someone tags it Clearyball? Next year will be that up the middle, kick long, mistake free footy. It's what we have to do but some fans won't like it if we arnt winning much.
I think the difference is we have the personnel more suited to play that type of footy

But you are correct if things go pear shaped some will blame Cleary
Yes. Definitely a more rounded side than we've had previously. I look forward to the tough style. And the coach being in control.

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Post by innsaneink » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 6:25 am

It all comes back to the defense imo.
Always.
Get that right...we are halfway there

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Post by Nucky Thompson » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 6:40 am

gallagher wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 12:48 am
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 09 Jan, 2018 12:04 am
gallagher wrote:
Mon 08 Jan, 2018 11:42 pm
How long till someone tags it Clearyball? Next year will be that up the middle, kick long, mistake free footy. It's what we have to do but some fans won't like it if we arnt winning much.
I think the difference is we have the personnel more suited to play that type of footy

But you are correct if things go pear shaped some will blame Cleary
Yes. Definitely a more rounded side than we've had previously. I look forward to the tough style. And the coach being in control.
Cleary structures will be nothing like Taylor ball.

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Post by Earl » Tue 09 Jan, 2018 8:38 am

gallagher wrote:
Mon 08 Jan, 2018 11:42 pm
How long till someone tags it Clearyball? Next year will be that up the middle, kick long, mistake free footy. It's what we have to do but some fans won't like it if we arnt winning much.
The problem is it's hard to win games playing that footy and we need to win games. I assume Cleary realises this and we will play some attacking footy as well. I just think it won't be pretty plays but rather hard running with forwards offloading.

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