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Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Wed 10 Jan, 2018 11:37 pm
by tiger_one
(from https://www.nrl.com/news/2017/12/12/201 ... alty-ward/ )

Wests Tigers

Chris McQueen (neck, pre-season), Moses Suli (ankle, indefinite), Jacob Liddle (shoulder, indefinite).

Chris McQueen is progressing well after surgery on his neck, while Moses Suli continues to battle stress fractures in his ankle. Jacob Liddle is continuing his recovery from a dislocated shoulder he suffered in round 19.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 12:00 am
by gallagher
Indefinite isn't a good word.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 12:24 am
by formerguest
gallagher wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 12:00 am
Indefinite isn't a good word.
Stress fractures sounds worse, especially six months on and for a youngster.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 1:14 am
by Needaname
I seem to recall one Sonny Bill Williams missing up to almost a season with stress fracture and other injuries that occurred around him being rushed through his recovery.
The upside to this point is, he turned out to have a pretty good career injury wise afterwards.
Isn't stress fractures a 'growing pains' situation. Suli is only 19/20 like Sonny probaby was at the time so it's proably related to him growing into his body.

Just looked this up:

Stress Fractures in Young Athletes

Competitive sports can give some young athletes an edge over their peers. When fun, teamwork, and good sportsmanship are the top goals, sports can improve young kids' physical and emotional health, self-esteem, and even their relationship skills. Unfortunately, young athletes must also compensate for still-growing bones, tendons, and muscles. Sometimes sports injuries happen.

The most common type of sports injury is an overuse injury such as a stress fracture. Overuse injuries are becoming more common in young athletes Playing sports year-round without time off doesn't give young bodies enough time to rest and recover.

How stress fractures happen
Stress fractures happen when muscles are too tired to take on the impact of exercise, and the bones absorb the added stress. When those bones become too strained, they develop a tiny break known as a stress fracture.

Most stress fractures affect the bones in the lower leg. Stress fractures are also common in the feet.

These are the most common causes of stress fractures:

Increasing the frequency or intensity of exercise too quickly
Suddenly changing the workout surface
Getting sudden and significantly more playing time
Using or wearing gear that doesn't offer enough support, such as shoes that are worn out
Insufficient periods of rest between practice or events
Stress fractures can happen during any number of sports, but they tend to be most frequent in young athletes who participate in sports that involve running and jumping, such as basketball, gymnastics, and track and field. These sports involve repetitive movements that strain the muscles and bones. This increases the risk for a stress fracture.

So based on the above and the weight of Suli I'd say it's reasonable to expect this to of occurred.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 1:39 am
by sheer64
Does not sound promising for Suli or Liddle.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 5:58 am
by Geo.
Well there you go...everyone time for new Rd 1 Team Lists...

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 6:10 am
by upthetigers
McIlwrick to start at hooker. Move Reynolds to hooker when he needs a rest and Benji to replace Reynolds.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 7:17 am
by Tiger Watto
Geo. wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 5:58 am
Well there you go...everyone time for new Rd 1 Team Lists...
Yep... I've got you starting at #9.

Stay off those pie's in NZ!

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 4:12 pm
by Earl
This is bad.

I think we can cover for McQueen fairly easily. Moses is one player who could be a weapon for us and we will miss that but I think we have depth to cover the loss of an outside back.

The big loss though is Liddle. I reckon we need him to turn into a gun player if we are going to have a season that surprises on the upside. McIlwrick and Taylor may do the job defensively but we won't threaten much from dummy half without Liddle there and firing.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 4:25 pm
by sideline eye
I wouldn't panic about Liddle at this stage. I've had the same operation and I'm 69yo against his 20yo. Recovery for me was about 4 months so I'd expect him to recover earlier than that.given that he is a pro sportsman with full time physio available to aid his rehab.

I stand to be corrected but I don't think I've seen him wearing a "don't tackle me" vest. I'd be surprised if he wasn't ready to play come March.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 7:05 pm
by Lidcombe Magpie
sheer64 wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 1:39 am
Does not sound promising for Suli or Liddle.
I wouldn't take to much credence in what the nrl.com website has to say.

I would wait and see what comes out on the Wests Tigers website as this is significantly more informed about players injuries. I have noticed all 3 players (I think I noticed Suli) in pics at Wests training. So don't get to worried yet.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 7:13 pm
by Tigerdon
Tiger Watto wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 7:17 am
Geo. wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 5:58 am
Well there you go...everyone time for new Rd 1 Team Lists...
Yep... I've got you starting at #9.

Stay off those pie's in NZ!

I wouldn’t trust an Kiwi pie. For a start they don’t have cows in NZ (only sheep and an Aussie Pussom plague ) so it would be mutton (or possum) dress up as beef.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 7:38 pm
by Geo.
Tigerdon wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 7:13 pm
Tiger Watto wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 7:17 am
Geo. wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 5:58 am
Well there you go...everyone time for new Rd 1 Team Lists...
Yep... I've got you starting at #9.

Stay off those pie's in NZ!

I wouldn’t trust an Kiwi pie. For a start they don’t have cows in NZ (only sheep and an Aussie Pussom plague ) so it would be mutton (or possum) dress up as beef.
Lol..they have plenty of Cows..well least they look like Cows... :?

Mautilno also has an issue with his knee but I don't think they mentioned that there shhhhh..

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 8:10 pm
by Fraze23
Earl wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 4:12 pm
This is bad.

I think we can cover for McQueen fairly easily. Moses is one player who could be a weapon for us and we will miss that but I think we have depth to cover the loss of an outside back.

The big loss though is Liddle. I reckon we need him to turn into a gun player if we are going to have a season that surprises on the upside. McIlwrick and Taylor may do the job defensively but we won't threaten much from dummy half without Liddle there and firing.
McQueens situation might be a blessing in disguise if it allows an Eisenhuth or an Aloiai to claim a starting position. I don't think a backrow of Lawrence, McQueen and Taylor is big enough to make an impact nor is it likely to trouble too many sides. I'd like to see Eisenhuth start at lock or Aloiai start on the fringes, with either McQueen or Lawrence coming from the bench to steady the ship.

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 8:25 pm
by Tacky
No probs,

3. Marsters
4. Milne

9. Mcilwrick - ET

Bench. Eisenhuth

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 8:29 pm
by 18thman
You DO all know this report is a month old.......

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 8:35 pm
by gallagher
18thman wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 8:29 pm
You DO all know this report is a month old.......
Got an update?

Re: Pre Season Casualty Report

Posted: Thu 11 Jan, 2018 8:47 pm
by Love the WestsTigers
sheer64 wrote:
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 1:39 am
Does not sound promising for Suli or Liddle.
luckily we have quality extras this time to cover