Dt article how ivan cleaned up wt.

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Re: Dt article how ivan cleaned up wt.

Post by colmcd » Mon 05 Mar, 2018 3:42 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sun 04 Mar, 2018 7:59 pm
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What’s this rebuild crap?
For many seasons now we have lost more talent than we’ve brought in.

Didn’t Marina Go say 3 years ago that our salary cap dramas wouldn’t be fixed until 2018?

You can’t rebuild if there’s no cap money to bring in decent players.

This year, as I see it, is the start of a ‘normal’ season where we have a reasonable SQUAD and a well qualified coach. If coach Cleary is re-signed in 3 years then the crap we have deservedly copped from the media over the years is done and dusted.
I don’t get it either. What are we rebuilding this year? It’s the first year in about 5 years we are operating with an evenly spread cap. We could definitely benefit from one or two marquee players, but so could a lot of clubs. This is not a rebuilding year.
How many of our "big 17" were playing with us last year.

No matter what you think of who we signed. They are all pretty much a new team. Only a halfback a second rower and a few forwards remain the same. Our defensive combinations are going to take time, people need to trust and need to know when to trust and when to assist who is left and right of them. That won't happen for 3-6 months. Even then we will have to get our attack combinations worked out, see if people are making mistakes in areas and working on the little things.

2019 will be the year something might happen with the tigers. 2018 is 100% a rebuild year. We (mostly rightly) redid our team as a clean slate. No way we will be a top 4 team this year.


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Post by GNR4LIFE » Mon 05 Mar, 2018 4:19 pm

colmcd wrote:
Mon 05 Mar, 2018 3:42 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sun 04 Mar, 2018 7:59 pm
cqtiger wrote:
Sun 04 Mar, 2018 7:51 pm
What’s this rebuild crap?
For many seasons now we have lost more talent than we’ve brought in.

Didn’t Marina Go say 3 years ago that our salary cap dramas wouldn’t be fixed until 2018?

You can’t rebuild if there’s no cap money to bring in decent players.

This year, as I see it, is the start of a ‘normal’ season where we have a reasonable SQUAD and a well qualified coach. If coach Cleary is re-signed in 3 years then the crap we have deservedly copped from the media over the years is done and dusted.
I don’t get it either. What are we rebuilding this year? It’s the first year in about 5 years we are operating with an evenly spread cap. We could definitely benefit from one or two marquee players, but so could a lot of clubs. This is not a rebuilding year.
How many of our "big 17" were playing with us last year.

No matter what you think of who we signed. They are all pretty much a new team. Only a halfback a second rower and a few forwards remain the same. Our defensive combinations are going to take time, people need to trust and need to know when to trust and when to assist who is left and right of them. That won't happen for 3-6 months. Even then we will have to get our attack combinations worked out, see if people are making mistakes in areas and working on the little things.

2019 will be the year something might happen with the tigers. 2018 is 100% a rebuild year. We (mostly rightly) redid our team as a clean slate. No way we will be a top 4 team this year.
So this year is already a write off? Great. Getting tired of this only 1 year away crap.

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Post by Balmainian » Mon 05 Mar, 2018 5:23 pm

Have faith fella's!!!!
Weve got Ivan the best coach there is besides probably Bellamy(although without Smith,Cronk and Slater i wonder how much of a coach he'd be).
We have a punishing front row
Solid and gritty backrowers these days-No Lovetts or Edwards type fillers.
We have 5 Individual Halves all with a complete different stamp on their games.
Our outside backs could be a little stronger but with Noff, MIlne and Fonua certainly not a weak bunch.
Full back is the only ? for me. But i have faith in Thommo i think he'll be valued a little more amongst our fans in the coming weeks.

5 days till kick off!
lets get behind em.

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Post by Jay » Mon 05 Mar, 2018 6:51 pm

For those that say it will take months to work out defensive structures etc and wait till 2019, I say that's a joke. Been rebuilding for years. No excuses.!

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Post by cqtiger » Mon 05 Mar, 2018 8:26 pm

colmcd wrote:
Mon 05 Mar, 2018 3:42 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sun 04 Mar, 2018 7:59 pm
cqtiger wrote:
Sun 04 Mar, 2018 7:51 pm
What’s this rebuild crap?
For many seasons now we have lost more talent than we’ve brought in.

Didn’t Marina Go say 3 years ago that our salary cap dramas wouldn’t be fixed until 2018?

You can’t rebuild if there’s no cap money to bring in decent players.

This year, as I see it, is the start of a ‘normal’ season where we have a reasonable SQUAD and a well qualified coach. If coach Cleary is re-signed in 3 years then the crap we have deservedly copped from the media over the years is done and dusted.
I don’t get it either. What are we rebuilding this year? It’s the first year in about 5 years we are operating with an evenly spread cap. We could definitely benefit from one or two marquee players, but so could a lot of clubs. This is not a rebuilding year.
How many of our "big 17" were playing with us last year.

No matter what you think of who we signed. They are all pretty much a new team. Only a halfback a second rower and a few forwards remain the same. Our defensive combinations are going to take time, people need to trust and need to know when to trust and when to assist who is left and right of them. That won't happen for 3-6 months. Even then we will have to get our attack combinations worked out, see if people are making mistakes in areas and working on the little things.

2019 will be the year something might happen with the tigers. 2018 is 100% a rebuild year. We (mostly rightly) redid our team as a clean slate. No way we will be a top 4 team this year.
We’ve been DE-building these last few years. As I said, we’ve lost better talent than we brought in for many years. We haven’t been RE- building
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Post by old man tiger » Mon 05 Mar, 2018 8:34 pm

I hope we go well, as in top 8 we'll, and think if everything aligns we can.

Thia is like the first year after a drawn out corporate restructure. Ground zero, not really a rebuild in traditional rugby league terms as the broom has been going through the joint for seasons.

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Post by Tigerdon » Sun 11 Mar, 2018 9:59 am

Ivan's astute purchases had a good round one hit out. The steel in the side was obviously very different to how we have been playing over the last few years. Whether the team can put that sort of effort in week in week out remains to be seen.
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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 11 Mar, 2018 10:01 am

We’re clearly fitter than last year. Round 1 against the Rabbits last year, we got out to a big lead and conceded 3 late tries and the score flattered them. A lot more to like about yesterday.

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