Our Attack -Hooker

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Re: Our Attack -Hooker

Post by Jay » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 9:33 am

Cmon hooker is clearly an area that could be improved. A lot of passes are late and difficult for others to catch. Great we are winning but its okay to goss on improvements. Hooker is clearly to be improved heh :)


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Post by supercoach » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 9:46 am

happy tiger wrote:
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 11:58 am
Said it a few times , we are playing footy far too far away from the ad line , we need to play closer to the line to create more pressure and to make the opposition have to make defensive decisions

At the moment the opposition has time to react to our attack , we need to change that

Our big weapons aren't being utilized with flat balls close to the line or in situations where defenders have to make decisions

Those weapons are Aloiai and Marsters (Lawrence also , but his hands get ugly when we play at the line )

The minute they become utilized oppositions will need to make decisions , that's when Brook's running game will become a weapon also

It might take a little time , but the defence is their and remember we have probably faced arguably the two best defensive sides in the comp
Your right but as you highlighted our ball runners don't have a good track record with their hands taking balls in traffic and our passes tend to throw plenty of flat passes forward. I guess its all about training drills and plenty of hard work. Manly were very good at it yesterday, but Parra have plenty of players who don't want to tackle

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Post by The Old Fox » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 10:06 am

Tiger Steve wrote:
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 4:25 pm
upthetigers wrote:
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Tiger Steve wrote:
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upthetigers wrote:
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:23 pm


X2

I can't believe the praise either. It's ridiculous how much he offers in attack for someone playing their 5th year in first grade. He is deadset useless and everyone would be giving it to him this season if it wasn't for Benji controlling both games. He has a role to play in the team and if he is not capable of doing that role he needs to be dropped it's that simple. RF is a MUCH better player and look at the treatment he got.
Wow ............ I’m speechless ........... Wow
I got triggered at the Brilliant Brooks headline :lol:
Yeah but he was good.....hence the headline .......I mean what does the kid have to do?
I think Marshall is good for Brooks and the forwards take a lot of pressure off..I can't bag Brooks on he's effort against the Storm, I just hope he can stay consistent with he's kicking game,the only one aspect that lets him down.

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Post by innsaneink » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 10:33 am

supercoach wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 9:46 am
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 11:58 am
Said it a few times , we are playing footy far too far away from the ad line , we need to play closer to the line to create more pressure and to make the opposition have to make defensive decisions

At the moment the opposition has time to react to our attack , we need to change that

Our big weapons aren't being utilized with flat balls close to the line or in situations where defenders have to make decisions

Those weapons are Aloiai and Marsters (Lawrence also , but his hands get ugly when we play at the line )

The minute they become utilized oppositions will need to make decisions , that's when Brook's running game will become a weapon also

It might take a little time , but the defence is their and remember we have probably faced arguably the two best defensive sides in the comp
Your right but as you highlighted our ball runners don't have a good track record with their hands taking balls in traffic and our passes tend to throw plenty of flat passes forward. I guess its all about training drills and plenty of hard work. Manly were very good at it yesterday, but Parra have plenty of players who don't want to tackle
It annoys me at times as well... We ask no questions of the defence being so deep and with no speed... Deep is fine if you have a Roberts and a JAC in your backline.
Hopefully with more confidence in our defence we can gradually improve the attack..play a bit flatter, have more decoys and bodies in motion

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Post by old man tiger » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 10:57 am

I think the team is generally gassed and saving their energy for defence. Early in both games we have faced a lot of adversity before gradually starting to win the ruck. That's why I give our attack a pass mark. Attack isn't just trys, is rolling upfield too, which we are doing well.

We were starting to gel before the 67 penalties leading to mats sinbinning. Plenty of improvement left in us but massive results that have bought us a bit of time in terms of really finding our groove.


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Post by The Queen » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:08 am

Also played the best to defensive teams in the comp and beat them at there own game I think Reynolds will start from the bench for a few weeks out play Brooks and Brooks will be playing reggies and if no injuries Marshall and Reynolds will be the half combination Liddle will play 60 and Taylor the other 20 MCK will be the back on the bench who can cover the back row

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Post by TigerBarn » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:25 am

So the Roosters and Storm have scored 30 plus in their other 2 games but only 8 points each against us.

They are both considered to be 2 of the best sides in the comp, if we don't score points against the Eels in round 4 than I would start to worry about the attack.

We could beat the Broncos 2 nil and I would be happy,

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Post by innsaneink » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:37 am

People just realise we won't be able to play the way we're playing all year.. Thinking ahead

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Post by colmcd » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 12:06 pm

supercoach wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 9:46 am
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 11:58 am
Said it a few times , we are playing footy far too far away from the ad line , we need to play closer to the line to create more pressure and to make the opposition have to make defensive decisions

At the moment the opposition has time to react to our attack , we need to change that

Our big weapons aren't being utilized with flat balls close to the line or in situations where defenders have to make decisions

Those weapons are Aloiai and Marsters (Lawrence also , but his hands get ugly when we play at the line )

The minute they become utilized oppositions will need to make decisions , that's when Brook's running game will become a weapon also

It might take a little time , but the defence is their and remember we have probably faced arguably the two best defensive sides in the comp
Your right but as you highlighted our ball runners don't have a good track record with their hands taking balls in traffic and our passes tend to throw plenty of flat passes forward. I guess its all about training drills and plenty of hard work. Manly were very good at it yesterday, but Parra have plenty of players who don't want to tackle
Something is up at Parramatta and I don't know what it is. Unless Jarryd Hayne has pissed everyone off there already... but that was way too fast.

Wondering if we could poach Manu Mau or someone else?

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Post by Tweed Tiger » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 12:37 pm

colmcd wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 12:06 pm
supercoach wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 9:46 am
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 11:58 am
Said it a few times , we are playing footy far too far away from the ad line , we need to play closer to the line to create more pressure and to make the opposition have to make defensive decisions

At the moment the opposition has time to react to our attack , we need to change that

Our big weapons aren't being utilized with flat balls close to the line or in situations where defenders have to make decisions

Those weapons are Aloiai and Marsters (Lawrence also , but his hands get ugly when we play at the line )

The minute they become utilized oppositions will need to make decisions , that's when Brook's running game will become a weapon also

It might take a little time , but the defence is their and remember we have probably faced arguably the two best defensive sides in the comp
Your right but as you highlighted our ball runners don't have a good track record with their hands taking balls in traffic and our passes tend to throw plenty of flat passes forward. I guess its all about training drills and plenty of hard work. Manly were very good at it yesterday, but Parra have plenty of players who don't want to tackle
Something is up at Parramatta and I don't know what it is. Unless Jarryd Hayne has pissed everyone off there already... but that was way too fast.

Wondering if we could poach Manu Mau or someone else?
Looks like a similar problem we have had in the past with certain players egos and they are getting belted up the middle.

They just threw the in the towel after 10 minutes also Moses abusing the ref no real surprise there.

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Post by Eddie » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 5:59 pm

I would strongly considering Brooks and Liddle sharing the 9 with reynolds at 6.

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Post by InBenjiWeTrust » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 6:06 pm

great to see so many Sheensians on this forum :deadhorse:

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Post by Chicken Faced Killa » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 6:08 pm

Eddie wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 5:59 pm
I would strongly considering Brooks and Liddle sharing the 9 with reynolds at 6.
I’d be interested to see how brooks goes at hooker. Good be a good fit for his game by taking away some responsibility

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Post by bathursttiger » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 6:52 pm

king sirro wrote:
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 12:11 pm
Godinet has been terrible both games.

Brooks needs to move to hooker. He's playing a nothing role in the halves and our play falls down most times Luke gets it. Very surprised he's getting so much praise for his game. Marshall is carrying us. Brooks moves to nine really improves 2 key areas IMO.
What and let Liddle go to another club and be a star.
When Liddle if fit he and Reynolds will be our Hookers, with Benji playing off the bench at 5/8.
Allowing another Prop/Second rower on the bench.

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Post by Eddie » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 6:53 pm

Your dreaming if you think Benji is going back to the bench.

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Post by NT Tiger » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 9:57 pm

Eddie wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 6:53 pm
Your dreaming if you think Benji is going back to the bench.
There is no way Benji will be going back to the bench. In spite of the early talk re Brooks taking control of the team, all the action has been Benji in control. I will be very surprised if his experience and leadership is simply sitting on the sideline.
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Post by Cairnstigers » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:02 pm

At this point Benji is only here for this year
Reynolds is here for the next 4 years
Brooks and LIDDLE for this year and next
Reynolds will be in the starting side long term and was bought to play in the halves with Brookes
Not Hooker
As good a job as Benji is doing at the moment I can see him moving back to the bench in the # 17
This may allow him to keep playing on a little longer and he may just re-sign for another year
Liddle will have his chance this year and next and must step up to keep his position in the side long term
I think he will do well if he can stay injury free
If not we look for another Hooker
It is possible that Reynolds and Benji share the Halves roll with Brooks
As Ivan has said before
He may play all 3 at the same time
But I don't think it will be Liddles Expense

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Post by happy tiger » Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:34 pm

colmcd wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 12:06 pm
supercoach wrote:
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 9:46 am
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 18 Mar, 2018 11:58 am
Said it a few times , we are playing footy far too far away from the ad line , we need to play closer to the line to create more pressure and to make the opposition have to make defensive decisions

At the moment the opposition has time to react to our attack , we need to change that

Our big weapons aren't being utilized with flat balls close to the line or in situations where defenders have to make decisions

Those weapons are Aloiai and Marsters (Lawrence also , but his hands get ugly when we play at the line )

The minute they become utilized oppositions will need to make decisions , that's when Brook's running game will become a weapon also

It might take a little time , but the defence is their and remember we have probably faced arguably the two best defensive sides in the comp
Your right but as you highlighted our ball runners don't have a good track record with their hands taking balls in traffic and our passes tend to throw plenty of flat passes forward. I guess its all about training drills and plenty of hard work. Manly were very good at it yesterday, but Parra have plenty of players who don't want to tackle
Something is up at Parramatta and I don't know what it is. Unless Jarryd Hayne has pissed everyone off there already... but that was way too fast.

Wondering if we could poach Manu Mau or someone else?
Paul Kent claims they had a forty minute warm up and that was what beat them , they were finished before they started

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