Stat that shows how far we have come.

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Stat that shows how far we have come.

Post by Seantice » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 11:00 am

In 2017 out kickers forced 19 dropouts(whilst giving away 23 7 tackle sets). So far we have forced 14 dropouts in 5 rounds. Amazing what happens when we get repeat sets. Brooks short kicking game has improved 5 fold. Keep going son :master: :righton: :supporter:


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Post by Geo. » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 11:10 am

The chase on kicks in general play has impressed me more..not sure that can be measured in stats..
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Post by kh_canada » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 11:26 am

Got the 2018 stat for how many 7 tackle sets we've conceded?
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Post by fibrodreaming » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:12 pm

Over at The Roar, Tim Gore has written a good article praising Ivan Cleary. He quoted the following stats re the Tigers:

• the fewest tries conceded of any side (7) so far this season. That includes two games against last season’s top-scoring side.
• the fewest errors of any side (40)
• the most errors forced from their opponents (60)
• the third fewest line breaks conceded (11)
• the third most metres made (7638)
• the most kick metres made of any side (3314)
• the most line drop outs forced (14)

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Post by 05TIGZ » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:36 pm

fibrodreaming wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:12 pm
Over at The Roar, Tim Gore has written a good article praising Ivan Cleary. He quoted the following stats re the Tigers:

• the fewest tries conceded of any side (7) so far this season. That includes two games against last season’s top-scoring side.
• the fewest errors of any side (40)
• the most errors forced from their opponents (60)
• the third fewest line breaks conceded (11)
• the third most metres made (7638)
• the most kick metres made of any side (3314)
• the most line drop outs forced (14)
Wow what a turn around. Let’s hope we can maintain it.


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Post by FreddyK » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:37 pm

fibrodreaming wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:12 pm
Over at The Roar, Tim Gore has written a good article praising Ivan Cleary. He quoted the following stats re the Tigers:

• the fewest tries conceded of any side (7) so far this season. That includes two games against last season’s top-scoring side.
• the fewest errors of any side (40)
• the most errors forced from their opponents (60)
• the third fewest line breaks conceded (11)
• the third most metres made (7638)
• the most kick metres made of any side (3314)
• the most line drop outs forced (14)
Great numbers. I see this as step one in Ivan's plan? It appears that, firstly, he is trying to get the team to develop defensively and get the right attitude in the club. We all know that he has a booty and is ready to move in the market. I feel that he will (soon) pounce by announcing a major playmaker signing who will complement the work the team has already done. It is a clever and successful management strategy that is employed by many companies. I reckon that Ivan will have a crack at Fergo. I have read on Fox that Fergo took a big step to go off the plonk and if that is so he might just be the type of reformed player who would fit in with the club's culture. He is also good mates with Josh. Personally I would love Blake to be a part of our squad.

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Post by innsaneink » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:45 pm

Late in the Melbourne game last week, up by 1 Brooks gets the ball on the last about 20 out from their line... I think he was about to kick but pressure from the defense forced his hand... He stepped and jinker then headed to the corner despite there being many defenders there.... And took the tackle, handing over the ball in the perfect spot, next best outcome after a try or a repeat set... Calmly assessed the situation rather than panicking and risking 7tackles/20metres.

Great play imo and shows the maturity & confidence Ivan's brought out in him

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Post by Seantice » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:52 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:45 pm
Late in the Melbourne game last week, up by 1 Brooks gets the ball on the last about 20 out from their line... I think he was about to kick but pressure from the defense forced his hand... He stepped and jinked then headed to the corner despite there being many defenders there.... And took the tackle, handing over the ball in the perfect spot, next best outcome after a try or a repeat set... Calmly assessed the situation rather than panicking and risking 7tackles/20metres.

Great play imo and shows the maturity & confidence Ivan's brought out in him
I remember that. It was inside the ten on the sideline so perfect place for a turnover. Last year he would of kicked it dead.

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Post by krayola » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:55 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 12:45 pm
Late in the Melbourne game last week, up by 1 Brooks gets the ball on the last about 20 out from their line... I think he was about to kick but pressure from the defense forced his hand... He stepped and jinked then headed to the corner despite there being many defenders there.... And took the tackle, handing over the ball in the perfect spot, next best outcome after a try or a repeat set... Calmly assessed the situation rather than panicking and risking 7tackles/20metres.

Great play imo and shows the maturity & confidence Ivan's brought out in him
Yep, remember that. A really smart, composed play. The sort of play Brodie Croft didn't make too often...and Brooksy didn't either until not long ago.
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Post by Geo. » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 1:13 pm

kh_canada wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 11:26 am
Got the 2018 stat for how many 7 tackle sets we've conceded?
2...Peta Godinet..1 Benji Marshsall
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Post by Nelson » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 1:15 pm

Geo. wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 1:13 pm
kh_canada wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 11:26 am
Got the 2018 stat for how many 7 tackle sets we've conceded?
2...Peta Godinet..1 Benji Marshsall
Yeah but one of the ones that Godinet conceded should have counted for about 27 it was that awful...

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Post by Sco77y » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 6:14 pm

Some solid stats there. Best defensive side in the comp is a great title too :D One stat against this however is missed tackles, I think I read we’re second worst in the comp here. But with hardly any line breaks conceded it shows we’re working well as a team and covering those missed.

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Post by diedpretty » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 6:48 pm

Sco77y wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 6:14 pm
Some solid stats there. Best defensive side in the comp is a great title too :D One stat against this however is missed tackles, I think I read we’re second worst in the comp here. But with hardly any line breaks conceded it shows we’re working well as a team and covering those missed.
Thats true - when we missed tackles in the past it invariably led to points or allowing the other side great field position. The swarming defence we use can cover for players falling off tackles.

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Post by stevied » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 7:55 pm

These are all fantastic stats and we should be proud of them - no doubt. However, an area where we must rank near bottom would be red zone conversions. We just don't seem to know what to do when we get inside the opposition's 20.

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Post by The Patriot » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 8:48 pm

The kind of stars and improvement that has been missing under the last couple of coaches.

Awesome reading
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Post by 05TIGZ » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 9:10 pm

The Patriot wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 8:48 pm
The kind of stars and improvement that has been missing under the last couple of coaches.

Awesome reading
How refreshing. The Defence king JT came to improve our defence and we all know how that ended. Cleary comes in, goes about his business and let’s the results do the talking.

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Post by The Patriot » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 9:27 pm

05TIGZ wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 9:10 pm
The Patriot wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 8:48 pm
The kind of stars and improvement that has been missing under the last couple of coaches.

Awesome reading
How refreshing. The Defence king JT came to improve our defence and we all know how that ended. Cleary comes in, goes about his business and let’s the results do the talking.

Yes, less talk more actual getting things done😊
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Post by Tigerdon » Thu 12 Apr, 2018 9:57 pm

stevied wrote:
Thu 12 Apr, 2018 7:55 pm
These are all fantastic stats and we should be proud of them - no doubt. However, an area where we must rank near bottom would be red zone conversions. We just don't seem to know what to do when we get inside the opposition's 20.
It's not our best area, however we haven't had much luck there. With the ball bouncing off the goal post and Benji going so close and quite a few being turtled over the line. We have had our chances, without converting.
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