Farah's Last Hurrah

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Re: Farah's Last Hurrah

Post by Telltails » Sat 21 Jul, 2018 12:54 pm

Why anyone thinks Liddle would be concerned about Farah going around one more year doesnt make sense. It is a short term solution that allows Liddle to take over the role when he is ready.
I think he would be far more concerned about us signing a hooker who was looking to cement a FG position.


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Post by 2041 » Sat 21 Jul, 2018 8:51 pm

Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 6:03 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:11 pm
Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:38 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:13 am
One more year for Farah will do no harm in helping develop Liddles game. All clubs carry two hookers we will only have to sign another one. He is probably the best option and is an asset while ever he is fit and able rather than a problem. If the terms and conditions are right he will bring more value than some of our other signings.
Can someone explain how Farah will develop Liddle’s game? His game will not develop playing ISP (he is already killing it) and Farah has already given an interview saying that playing reserve grade for norths left him disheartened and ready to retire.

So either we have a bench hooker when interchanges are being reduced or we have injuries, or we leave Liddle in reserve grade next year at which point his contract is up and he is free to look around.
If Liddle can play 80 minutes everyweek and his form keeps Farah out well - whats the problem? The coach is always going to pick the best team and if its Liddle so be it.
Liddle has not been able to sustain that so far now he can be eased into it with Farah there. And we have able replacement instead of ET when he and if he is not on the field.
So you are suggesting that next year if the interchange is reduced we play 2 hookers in the 17? If Liddle can play 80 minutes and keeps Farah out, expect a lot of negative media coverage.
This season has shown that we need two proper hookers in the first grade squad - we can't fake it with a back rower or a utility.

If Clearly wants his hooker to play 80 that means a backup who knows they're going to be backup.

If Liddle is fit and ready to go that makes the other hooker the backup.

So the options are to sign a specialist 9 who knows they're going to be in ISP (is not even on the bench) barring injury.

If Farah is happy with that role he is clearly streets ahead, talent wise, of some generic nuffie who by definition isn't wanted to start elsewhere (a McIlwrick type, effectively).

Farah doesn't have anything to learn in reserve grade and I think we can trust his fitness at this stage. He's clearly the best option.

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Post by cktiger » Sat 21 Jul, 2018 9:04 pm

He just outplayed the bloke who took his place at Souths and will be the Australian hooker later this year. Not quite a dud yet.

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Post by Eddie » Sun 22 Jul, 2018 12:22 am

He is a class player and our team is rejuvenated with him at 9.

What happened under Taylor was just diabolical and I am delighted he is having the chance to show just what a good player he is again at 34.

Cleary will want him to play on in 2019 I have no doubt.

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Post by steve-o » Sun 22 Jul, 2018 12:54 am

At the beginning of the year, brooks had two years to prove that he belongs in the NRL long term - he has done that. Liddle needs to do the same next year, with or without Farah. Otherwise he can kiss his Wests Tigers career goodbye. He would probably get one more chance with a different NRL club, but It would likely be a minimum wage “prove it” kind of deal
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Post by yeti » Sun 22 Jul, 2018 5:32 am

Harvey wrote:
Sat 21 Jul, 2018 11:54 am
They say absence makes the heart grow fonder.

I remember people demanding Benji be sent to reserve grade after about round 7. Back for one game & lets re-sign him. I think some people on this forum have very short attention spans or memory issues.
Benji deserved to have been shaking hands with Hodgo after round 7 or 8. He was horrible. Great game last night - back to the earlier season - just controlling and settling the play. That's what we need from him for the remainder of the season.

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Post by NT Tiger » Sun 22 Jul, 2018 6:07 am

I was sceptical about Farah's return to WT. In my view he proved his worth last night. Without him that game would have ended very differently. He absorbed a lot of heat directed at him from the bunnies and added another dimension in playmaking. He obviously played to script, judging by Ivan's reaction to the execution of his game plan. If we get to the end of the season and he wants to play on, and Ivan offers him a new deal, I won't be complaining.
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Post by goldcoast tiger » Sun 22 Jul, 2018 10:56 am

Balmain Boy wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:48 pm
If Robbie plays on he'd have to accept that he's going to have to play a number of games in ISP. Liddle is our hooker, Robbie the fill in. They may interchange for a bit with each playing half a game but the reality is Liddle will be our number one hooker and if Robbie isn't ok with that he should retire now and we'll sign someone who's happy to play off the bench or wait for a chance in ISP
That’s a good idea,
there a ton of top DH’s around who want to join a club purely so they can play a game in first grade every now and then and mentor Liddl

If Farah is still playing this well next year, I’m sure Ivan has the experience to handle the team
When the chance for Liddle comes, then he’l have to prove that he’s worthy of a first grade spot, if he can’ then good.
If he’s not, we still have Robbie.
It won’t hurt Liddle to have to earn his spot, Unfortunately that hasn’t always the norm around here.

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Post by TYGA » Sun 22 Jul, 2018 11:20 am

Farah has been outstanding our defence in the middle is hugely improved. He is also working well with both halves. Another year for sure but Liddle has to be extended.

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Post by Byron Bay Fan » Sun 22 Jul, 2018 12:07 pm

TYGA wrote:
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 11:20 am
Farah has been outstanding our defence in the middle is hugely improved. He is also working well with both halves. Another year for sure but Liddle has to be extended.
Hate to say it.
A contrived 300 WT games for Farah why not - he was denied a legitimate 300. Even if he only comes on about 20 mins a game to help out in any position in the spine. With an appropriate salary he won't consume too much cap, it could co-incide with his ambassadorial duties as pay top up. Only playing part time his body could take it. He always gives money worth. Also it would be encouragement for future Club legends to persist with the Club.
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Post by AnnandaleTiger » Sun 22 Jul, 2018 12:29 pm

Best player gets the 9. This may not be liddle.

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Post by BalmainBoy » Mon 23 Jul, 2018 6:57 am

Re-signing both Farah and Marshall for a year is a must...
1) Tigers are a better team when they both play
2) Brooks is a better player with Marshall at 6
3) Liddle is better off the bench / lacks physicality in defence - needs to mature physically
4) Farah is tough / competitive whilst also being smart - sometimes the two don’t go together ...

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Post by pdenny77 » Mon 23 Jul, 2018 10:14 am

Love him or hate him he has made a big difference so far.
Not sure if everyone has watched the video of him being presented the jersey for game 250 (by Roycey) but if not take a look. Can't help but admire his passion for the club.

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Post by tigerap » Mon 23 Jul, 2018 10:21 am

If I were the club, I'd go to Farah and marshal and ask them if they want one more year...if either say yes, we should make it happen....farah has been a revelation since rejoining, he has been our best the last 3 games and Marshall certainly plays well with Brooks...in 2019 Reynolds just has to wait and share the #14 with Liddle...thats my take

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Post by bathursttiger » Mon 23 Jul, 2018 10:41 am

I'd like to see RF as a mentor to Liddle only, next year or as a development coach for some of the other hookers coming through, same as Benji mentoring the young halves.

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Post by Boonboon2 » Mon 23 Jul, 2018 10:45 am

Without Benji this year we have been horrible

Flogged by Raiders and Titans and fairly well beaten by the Sharks

If you look and Benji and Rus Packer when they have both played we have 7 wins and 3 losses

The 3 losses are the Broncos where we deserved to win but ref fecked us
The Roosters where we lost by 2 points
and the Penrith game

When one of those 2 havent played we have won 2 and lost 6 including being flogged a few times

We keep our spine and starting props on the field and we can make the finals

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Post by bathursttiger » Mon 23 Jul, 2018 10:46 am

I'd hate to sign the both of them and see them do a Jonathan Thurston next year.

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Post by Russell » Mon 23 Jul, 2018 11:26 am

We do not need a hooker on the bench next year.

So, if we sign Farah for next year that means Liddle plays 2019 in ISP.

Fair enough if that is what Ivan wants - think Jake will be going elsewhere if that happens.

That's ok providing Farah wants to play on for another 5 years after that - cause we ain't got anybody else.

Liddle will be ready for 2019 - can't see why Farah can't mentor him from the pretend ambassadorial role he will have when he retires.

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