Has this year been a success?

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Re: Has this year been a success?

Post by old man tiger » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:50 am

If Farah was here from round 1 who knows if we win those early games? Same for Mbye.

Not saying we wouldn't, but it is useless speculation. One kick dead and a 7 tackle set and we might have lost. When you're winning by two points you are one play from losing, same is true in reverse.

I'd agree with GNR, disappointed in the middle of the season, bitterly so. Overall I'd say a pass mark as we went forward on and off the field. The immediate future hinges on recruitment, have lost another swathe of fringe first graders as everyone knows, so we need to upgrade those positions.


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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:51 am

It was a pretty sideways year. Defence improved, but attack went backwards. A reverse of what we are used to.

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Post by Russell » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:17 am

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
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When I think of it poor Jacob Liddle may have wrecked his shoulders at DH and now understandably has stage fright against the big guys. A major calamity for the future.
Yeah AND so we should talk Farah into playing again.

You cannot be objective with Liddle because you are blinded by Farah.

Like a deer in the headlights. lol

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Post by matchball » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:30 am

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Sun 26 Aug, 2018 9:16 am
I think we finished where the majority of supporters thought we would , 9th is not a bad effort with the cattle we have here obviously need to strengthen a couple of positions for next year and hopefully book our seat in the finals next year .
JT got us to 9th with even worse cattle yet he wasn't given a pass mark yet Cleary does for his 9th place finish.

This forum is full of loons

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Post by jadtiger » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:53 am

matchball wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:30 am
Aceshigh wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 9:16 am
I think we finished where the majority of supporters thought we would , 9th is not a bad effort with the cattle we have here obviously need to strengthen a couple of positions for next year and hopefully book our seat in the finals next year .
JT got us to 9th with even worse cattle yet he wasn't given a pass mark yet Cleary does for his 9th place finish.

This forum is full of loons
Tedesco and Woods are superior to the players who replaced them,also we have won more games with IC than JT.This year is a very unusual year in that going 13-11 wont get you to the top 8 taylor only went 11-13.
It is an improvement this year but still not what is required


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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:57 am

jadtiger wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:53 am
matchball wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:30 am
Aceshigh wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 9:16 am
I think we finished where the majority of supporters thought we would , 9th is not a bad effort with the cattle we have here obviously need to strengthen a couple of positions for next year and hopefully book our seat in the finals next year .
JT got us to 9th with even worse cattle yet he wasn't given a pass mark yet Cleary does for his 9th place finish.

This forum is full of loons
Tedesco and Woods are superior to the players who replaced them,also we have won more games with IC than JT.This year is a very unusual year in that going 13-11 wont get you to the top 8 taylor only went 11-13.
It is an improvement this year but still not what is required
So our squad in 2016 with Rankin, Lovett, Edwards etc was superior to our squad this year? Yes we had Tedesco, but the rest of the squad was bog average. This year, we might not have any out and out stars, but the balance in the squad makes it superior to 2016.

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Post by kafta » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:57 am

matchball wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:30 am
Aceshigh wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 9:16 am
I think we finished where the majority of supporters thought we would , 9th is not a bad effort with the cattle we have here obviously need to strengthen a couple of positions for next year and hopefully book our seat in the finals next year .
JT got us to 9th with even worse cattle yet he wasn't given a pass mark yet Cleary does for his 9th place finish.

This forum is full of loons
But he would not put the best available players in the team to make the 8 that is his downfall.

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Post by tigeress » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:02 pm

innsaneink wrote:
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magpiecol wrote:
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Onthebus wrote:
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Overall I'm happy with the direction that the club is heading in but some of the players are not first grade standard and we need to restock the squad.
Some sanity at last.

:righton: :righton:
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I am happy with how our season has gone :)
We are only one game (win) off the six teams above us on the ladder, so I would regard this season as a success. Apart from the Cleary problem toward the end of the season we have had no negative press, so that is also a positive.

If we can attract a few more good players over the off season we can look forward to a great 2019 :righton:

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Post by jadtiger » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:09 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:57 am
jadtiger wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:53 am
matchball wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:30 am
Aceshigh wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 9:16 am
I think we finished where the majority of supporters thought we would , 9th is not a bad effort with the cattle we have here obviously need to strengthen a couple of positions for next year and hopefully book our seat in the finals next year .
JT got us to 9th with even worse cattle yet he wasn't given a pass mark yet Cleary does for his 9th place finish.

This forum is full of loons
Tedesco and Woods are superior to the players who replaced them,also we have won more games with IC than JT.This year is a very unusual year in that going 13-11 wont get you to the top 8 taylor only went 11-13.
It is an improvement this year but still not what is required
So our squad in 2016 with Rankin, Lovett, Edwards etc was superior to our squad this year? Yes we had Tedesco, but the rest of the squad was bog average. This year, we might not have any out and out stars, but the balance in the squad makes it superior to 2016.
Not as much as you imply and i would hardly call the rest of the 2016 squad as "bog average".The coach in 2016 was bog average if anyone was

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:12 pm

jadtiger wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:09 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:57 am
jadtiger wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:53 am
matchball wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:30 am


JT got us to 9th with even worse cattle yet he wasn't given a pass mark yet Cleary does for his 9th place finish.

This forum is full of loons
Tedesco and Woods are superior to the players who replaced them,also we have won more games with IC than JT.This year is a very unusual year in that going 13-11 wont get you to the top 8 taylor only went 11-13.
It is an improvement this year but still not what is required
So our squad in 2016 with Rankin, Lovett, Edwards etc was superior to our squad this year? Yes we had Tedesco, but the rest of the squad was bog average. This year, we might not have any out and out stars, but the balance in the squad makes it superior to 2016.
Not as much as you imply and i would hardly call the rest of the 2016 squad as "bog average".The coach in 2016 was bog average if anyone was
Then we should have a messed up cap more often then if that squad was that good.

Rankin, Lovett, Edwards, Naiqama/Noffa’s edge defensive combination. Let’s have all that back.

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Post by Steve k » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:20 pm

Definitely not if u can’t make the top 8 out 16 you can make all the excuses you want it’s a failure.

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Post by Lauren » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:31 pm

The 2016 teams I remember being played included- only off the top of my head.

1 James Tedesco/David Nofoaluma
2 David Nofoaluma/Jordan Rankin
3 Tim Simona/Nathan Milone
4 Kevin Naiqama
5 Josh Addo-Carr/Jordan Rankin
6 Mitchell Moses/Jack Littlejohn?/Jordan Rankin
7 Luke Brooks/Jack Littlejohn?
8 Aaron Woods
9 Dene Halatau/Robbie Farah/Jacob Liddle/Someone else I can’t recall
10 Sauaso Sue
11 Josh Aloiai/Dene Halatau
12 Chris Lawrence
13 Elijah Taylor
Interchange:
14 Ava Seumanufagai
15 Tim Grant
16 Joel Edwards
17 Michael Chee-Kam
18 Kyle Lovett
19 JJ Felise
20 Curtis Sironen
21 Matt Ballin

We just had a coach making stupid decisions, specifically having Addo Carr and Farah used at his disposal.
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Post by weststigerman » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 1:03 pm

Not a success, but definitely a big improvement on last year when we had the so-called “big 4”.

Until we become a top team we should be aiming to do better than the previous year. We did that this year and need to do it again next year.

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Post by Swordy » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 1:16 pm

gallagher wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:48 am
Swordy wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:26 am
I think its a PASS. We have achieved more than exected on a the back of a start to the season that no one saw coming.

If I was to mark it, I'd give it a B-.

At the start of the year, me and everyone else might have given us a D at best.

Clubs don't get built in 10 games.

I would give other clubs like Cowboys, Eels, Raiders all FAILS. Even the Panthers, if they lose the last game go into the FAIl category for me, and they still make the finals.

I challenge a single person to tell me honestly they ranked the Tigers at 9th when the year began.
I just read through a thread from the start of the year. I tipped 7th spot.

Another failed year IMO.
So how much did you win, because they were paying $66 for top 8 by memory. You've cleaned up. Your shout!
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Post by matchball » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 1:21 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:12 pm
jadtiger wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 12:09 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:57 am
jadtiger wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 11:53 am


Tedesco and Woods are superior to the players who replaced them,also we have won more games with IC than JT.This year is a very unusual year in that going 13-11 wont get you to the top 8 taylor only went 11-13.
It is an improvement this year but still not what is required
So our squad in 2016 with Rankin, Lovett, Edwards etc was superior to our squad this year? Yes we had Tedesco, but the rest of the squad was bog average. This year, we might not have any out and out stars, but the balance in the squad makes it superior to 2016.
Not as much as you imply and i would hardly call the rest of the 2016 squad as "bog average".The coach in 2016 was bog average if anyone was
Then we should have a messed up cap more often then if that squad was that good.

Rankin, Lovett, Edwards, Naiqama/Noffa’s edge defensive combination. Let’s have all that back.
Also match fixer Simona was letting tries in didn't help our cause.

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Post by gallagher » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 1:28 pm

Swordy wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 1:16 pm
gallagher wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:48 am
Swordy wrote:
Sun 26 Aug, 2018 10:26 am
I think its a PASS. We have achieved more than exected on a the back of a start to the season that no one saw coming.

If I was to mark it, I'd give it a B-.

At the start of the year, me and everyone else might have given us a D at best.

Clubs don't get built in 10 games.

I would give other clubs like Cowboys, Eels, Raiders all FAILS. Even the Panthers, if they lose the last game go into the FAIl category for me, and they still make the finals.

I challenge a single person to tell me honestly they ranked the Tigers at 9th when the year began.
I just read through a thread from the start of the year. I tipped 7th spot.

Another failed year IMO.
So how much did you win, because they were paying $66 for top 8 by memory. You've cleaned up. Your shout!
Ummm.....

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Post by TigerTiger » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 1:52 pm

I think the year in isolation having not made the finals is a fail, but hopefully it's a step towards making the finals comfortably next year, which would make it a step towards success.

So time will tell, but we have to make the finals next year, no excuses, otherwise this year and next year will be failures.
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Post by Telltails » Sun 26 Aug, 2018 2:49 pm

If you can name a roster that is in the eight thats weaker than ours then I could understand those calling it a fail.
There are three other teams that are below us that at the beginning of the year based on their roster and their performance would have been considered by most to be in the top eight this year in Canberra, Cowboys, and Parramatta. I can understand how their year could be considered a failure.
Our year may not have been as successful as we had hoped but to call it a failure is a kick in the guts to the players in our squad who played well above expectation to remain in it right up until rd 26.
There is not a team in the competition that hasnt lost games to teams that were below them on the table such was nature of the comp this year. We did great with the roster we had and that is why its very frustrating that their is a level of uncertainty about our future with Cleary cause we need to build on the respect we earned this year by recruiting well to take our team another step forward.

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