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Re: Thee is still hope!!

Post by happy tiger » Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:36 pm

Cairnstigers wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:33 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:16 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 8:13 pm
Article says numerous times they're cap compliant for 2018....did you not read it?
NRL 360 says they haven't been cleared yet for 2018

They say they are known to have discrepancies in 2015 and 2017 but the NRL hasn't cleared them for 2018 yet
If what you say is true
Then how ridiculous that they can get this far in the season un-detected
For the last few years by the sounds of it
The NRL needs to act swiftly now and in the future
It's just not good enough that there are indiscrepencies showing up years after the season has ended
While the clubs like us continue to miss out on the 8 while following the rules
The big question here is how many other clubs are doing it
Or should I say cheating

First peptides now illegal payments
The NRL must be female because it has no balls to come down hard
It appears rules are not rules
It has been known (according to 360 ) for 3 months

What I don't get is this , why find the issues in 2015 and 2017 , why not concentrate wholly and solely in 2018 first and foremost ??

You can't change the past , you sure as poo can fix the present and future :brick:


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Post by tigerbalm » Tue 28 Aug, 2018 11:03 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:36 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:33 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:16 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 8:13 pm
Article says numerous times they're cap compliant for 2018....did you not read it?
NRL 360 says they haven't been cleared yet for 2018

They say they are known to have discrepancies in 2015 and 2017 but the NRL hasn't cleared them for 2018 yet
If what you say is true
Then how ridiculous that they can get this far in the season un-detected
For the last few years by the sounds of it
The NRL needs to act swiftly now and in the future
It's just not good enough that there are indiscrepencies showing up years after the season has ended
While the clubs like us continue to miss out on the 8 while following the rules
The big question here is how many other clubs are doing it
Or should I say cheating

First peptides now illegal payments
The NRL must be female because it has no balls to come down hard
It appears rules are not rules
It has been known (according to 360 ) for 3 months

What I don't get is this , why find the issues in 2015 and 2017 , why not concentrate wholly and solely in 2018 first and foremost ??

You can't change the past , you sure as poo can fix the present and future :brick:

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Put a pin in the years previous and circle back. Focus on the now!

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Post by 69-05-41 » Tue 28 Aug, 2018 11:14 pm

So this decade amid supplement and TPA scandals Cronulla conveniently managed to be compliant in 2016 and 2018? Umm, OK. :roll:
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Post by happy tiger » Tue 28 Aug, 2018 11:19 pm

tigerbalm wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 11:03 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:36 pm
Cairnstigers wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:33 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:16 pm


NRL 360 says they haven't been cleared yet for 2018

They say they are known to have discrepancies in 2015 and 2017 but the NRL hasn't cleared them for 2018 yet
If what you say is true
Then how ridiculous that they can get this far in the season un-detected
For the last few years by the sounds of it
The NRL needs to act swiftly now and in the future
It's just not good enough that there are indiscrepencies showing up years after the season has ended
While the clubs like us continue to miss out on the 8 while following the rules
The big question here is how many other clubs are doing it
Or should I say cheating

First peptides now illegal payments
The NRL must be female because it has no balls to come down hard
It appears rules are not rules
It has been known (according to 360 ) for 3 months

What I don't get is this , why find the issues in 2015 and 2017 , why not concentrate wholly and solely in 2018 first and foremost ??

You can't change the past , you sure as poo can fix the present and future :brick:

100%

Put a pin in the years previous and circle back. Focus on the now!
But the next thing is this

We talk about players bringing the game into disrepute

What about clubs and the serious issues involved

So we focus on the Sharks

2011-2013 we have the Peptides scandal

Know we now that 2015 and 2017 they have salary cap "irregularities"

Ben Barba gets done for drugs for a 2nd time in 2016

Damian Keogh with a drugs saga

Andrew Fifita has numerous clashes with the NRL over involvement in junior footy , known support for a convicted murderer and in the latest run in with coaches

Why doesn't the game have rules to invoke massive penalties for multiple issues

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Post by happy tiger » Tue 28 Aug, 2018 11:27 pm

prattenparkchild wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 10:29 pm
TPA's causing grief yet again. When the hell are the NRL going to do something about this? It surely cant go on. Innocent players, guilty clubs? Like heck, they are both in it.

The simplest way to monitor it- players report their TPA to both NRL & the club, club reports TPA to NRL. Any discrepency between the 2 reports and an immediate investigation- not need for 3 year old historical breaches - at best its one year behind.

or...............

GET RID OF TPA's. They have been shown to be too tempting for mischief and unable to be easily complied with.
Leave the TPA's

Make the players 100 % responsible for their own contracts and if it goes wrong (as Ben Ikin said ) they sit out the length pof the contract if found rorting the cap and the money is still applied to the club's salary cap (and the funds not used gets put into Junior and Country RL )

This crap will stop immediately

Player blames his manager , too bad so sad , be like the rest of us who risk dealing with dodgy lawyers , accountants , tradesmen ,employers and employees every day of every week

We will get rid of the dodgier player managers as they won't be trusted

Clubs will be scared of losing cap money and players

Players won't risk signing with dodgy clubs

Worth a try in my opinion


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Post by jadtiger » Tue 28 Aug, 2018 11:43 pm

Oggy wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 8:27 pm
I’ll add
the 2002 bulldogs were stripped with about 2 weeks left of season all
Their points. That only took a week
To kill a 1st place team
Different administration, Toddles thinks that a harsh penalty would be telling them they are very naughty boys and dont do it again.

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Post by Geo. » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 3:49 am

Kick em out
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Post by Chris » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 4:03 am

It's reported that the discrepancy is as little as $250K. If it's more than a slap on the wrist then there is something wrong with this situation.

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Post by Balmainbred » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 4:17 am

Nothing will come of this, there one of Greengerg’s mob.

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Post by Kerry Cogger » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 5:13 am

851 wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 7:20 pm
Be funny if they are stripped of the 2016 premiership for rorting, I am sure easts were rorting in 2013 when they won
Ironic.Could Melbourne then claim one of the three premierships back they lost for rorting the capas they were runners up that year.Karmas a b****.

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Post by Chris » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 5:38 am

No more new topics on the Sharks salary cap issues please.

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Post by Nucky Thompson » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 6:23 am

69-05-41 wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 11:14 pm
So this decade amid supplement and TPA scandals Cronulla conveniently managed to be compliant in 2016 and 2018? Umm, OK. :roll:
Their claiming previous management

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Post by Nucky Thompson » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 6:25 am

Kerry Cogger wrote:
Wed 29 Aug, 2018 5:13 am
851 wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 7:20 pm
Be funny if they are stripped of the 2016 premiership for rorting, I am sure easts were rorting in 2013 when they won
Ironic.Could Melbourne then claim one of the three premierships back they lost for rorting the capas they were runners up that year.Karmas a b****.
Good point I'd be watching closely if I was Melbourne.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 6:29 am

Nucky Thompson wrote:
Wed 29 Aug, 2018 6:25 am
Kerry Cogger wrote:
Wed 29 Aug, 2018 5:13 am
851 wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 7:20 pm
Be funny if they are stripped of the 2016 premiership for rorting, I am sure easts were rorting in 2013 when they won
Ironic.Could Melbourne then claim one of the three premierships back they lost for rorting the capas they were runners up that year.Karmas a b****.
Good point I'd be watching closely if I was Melbourne.
Why? It’s not like Manly and Parra are now recognised as 07 and 09 Premiers. It’s ridiculous awarding runners up the title. Why not any of the teams the premiers beat in the lead up?

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Post by diedpretty » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 6:58 am

69-05-41 wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 8:18 pm
momo&medo wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 7:02 pm

According to NRL sources a payment outside the salary cap has been confirmed from 2015 but is not significant enough to strip the Sharks of the 2016 premiership, their first in 50 years.

Greenturd should make an announcement so we all know what amount is acceptable to the NRL when cheating the salary cap.
Thats a good point - the article says its only 250k at this stage as if thats ok - so maybe the NRL should put out a Cheating The Cap Chart - up to 250k - overlooked, 250 - 500 slap on the wrist and minor fine, 500 - 1mil etc etc.

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Post by yeti » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 7:06 am

diedpretty wrote:
Wed 29 Aug, 2018 6:58 am
69-05-41 wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 8:18 pm
momo&medo wrote:
Tue 28 Aug, 2018 7:02 pm

According to NRL sources a payment outside the salary cap has been confirmed from 2015 but is not significant enough to strip the Sharks of the 2016 premiership, their first in 50 years.

Greenturd should make an announcement so we all know what amount is acceptable to the NRL when cheating the salary cap.
Thats a good point - the article says its only 250k at this stage as if thats ok - so maybe the NRL should put out a Cheating The Cap Chart - up to 250k - overlooked, 250 - 500 slap on the wrist and minor fine, 500 - 1mil etc etc.
And that's the point isn't it? That $250K could have meant the difference between signing a 'gun' and missing out on him. In my opinion, $250K is still a significant amount.

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Post by Demps » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 7:17 am

Tacky wrote:
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So where's the consequences....
They have to pay the NRL $50 and wash Todd Greenberg's car for a week.
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Post by Tcat » Wed 29 Aug, 2018 7:24 am

I wonder what the next CEO of the roosters will find when he goes through their books after Politis leaves.

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