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Re: Tigers set to part ways with Cleary and seal Bennett deal

Post by tiger05premier » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 5:50 am

sideline eye wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 11:32 pm
tiger05premier wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:25 pm
Sunnycoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 5:59 pm
This might be a silly thing to say but what about we sign Wayne Bennett for 2020 for three years and let him appoint a caretaker coach for 2019. You never know we might get Demetriou for a year.Not sold on Maguire.
Excellent idea
Hmm, what if Cleary decides to get nasty and insists on staying for 2020, if we force him to stay for 2019?
Shouldn't that post be in the just jokes thread


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Post by NT Tiger » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 7:20 am

Tigerdave wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 5:01 am
formerguest wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 4:43 pm
Tigerdave wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 2:41 pm
formerguest wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 9:48 am


Would have been a lot easier if Cleary did not hold discussions with Penrith for next year onwards and then indicate his wanting to get out fast to WT CEO and Chair. Thus, pretty clear that he would not want to build a solid last year under sufferance having informed the club that he prefers to leave.
He's not under sufferance at all for starters and had told players he'll be here next year. Is Bennett under sufferance knowing, and publicly conformed no less, that he won't be at the Broncos?

At least Cleary knows he's wanted, Bennett isn't. I would say one is under more "sufferance" than the other.
So the coach that informed his CEO and chair that he would rather be coaching Penrith than their team and when told that that he would not be allowed to leave early to do so, is not staying under sufferance. Yeah okay, you're correct and like you, I should have understood that Ivan was jumping for joy and noted the enthusiasm dripping from his statement.

It also had/has nothing whatsoever to do with Bennett.
So, there's official confirmation that IC stated he would rather coach Penrith? We know the club has stated that he will be here to fulfill his contract, players have stated that IC will be here next year.

My remarks about Bennett have to do with people carrying on about IC, the club and potential no coach and how that affects everything, yet somehow, the Broncos and Penrith, who are both in the same boat not exactly knowing what's going on, seemingly get a free pass.
Funny that eh? Both of those clubs in a 'premiership window' with apparently more to lose than a rebuilding WT.
"Quality Stupidity"

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Post by matchball » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 8:35 am

momo&medo wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm
matchball wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:15 pm
Somehow I feel we will get a dud deal.
I'll laugh if we end up with Griffin and release Cleary. Gus doing the old switcheroo on the coaches.
Knowing us we will probably cop that. I hate this club at times.
Another one :crazy
You never have anything of value to add?

Do you think our club will come out on top here? I don't.
The CEO and admin are dead quiet.
The coach is dead quiet.
The players have no idea what's going onand of course we the fans have no idea.

Less than a month before pre season training and we already a mess for 2019.

I'm willing to bet we won't end up with Bennett or Madge.
We are just too disfunctional to attract anyone with any real talent.

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:04 am

Geo. wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:55 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:08 pm
sheer64 wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 6:20 pm
Sunnycoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 5:59 pm
This might be a silly thing to say but what about we sign Wayne Bennett for 2020 for three years and let him appoint a caretaker coach for 2019. You never know we might get Demetriou for a year.Not sold on Maguire.
Could live with that.
Only one thing you’ve forgotten..... How do we Get Wayne to want to come here, it’s his last contract and wants a premiership as a going away present ,
If nothing gets better here . we won’t be giving him that present.

The Brisbane River will flow clean water , before Bennett comes here except as an opposition Coach.
How..?

Pay him ...like any one else..
With what??.we’d need Donald Trumps coffers to get him here,
I repeat , He wants a pension and more importantly a goodbye Premiership.
Unless Harry ( you remember Harry, the poor mans Nick Politis)
Opens up his wallett and buys him , forget that daydream, that won’t be happening , at least in the near future,

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Post by tiger05premier » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:17 am

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:04 am
Geo. wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:55 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:08 pm
sheer64 wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 6:20 pm


Could live with that.
Only one thing you’ve forgotten..... How do we Get Wayne to want to come here, it’s his last contract and wants a premiership as a going away present ,
If nothing gets better here . we won’t be giving him that present.

The Brisbane River will flow clean water , before Bennett comes here except as an opposition Coach.
How..?

Pay him ...like any one else..
With what??.we’d need Donald Trumps coffers to get him here,
I repeat , He wants a pension and more importantly a goodbye Premiership.
Unless Harry ( you remember Harry, the poor mans Nick Politis)
Opens up his wallett and buys him , forget that daydream, that won’t be happening , at least in the near future,
He might just get his premiership next year at the Broncos and probably already has millions stashed away and not need big dollars anymore

Maybe just loves coaching

You wouldn't know

Just seem to love raving on


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Post by Nelson » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:21 am

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:04 am
Geo. wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:55 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:08 pm
sheer64 wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 6:20 pm


Could live with that.
Only one thing you’ve forgotten..... How do we Get Wayne to want to come here, it’s his last contract and wants a premiership as a going away present ,
If nothing gets better here . we won’t be giving him that present.

The Brisbane River will flow clean water , before Bennett comes here except as an opposition Coach.
How..?

Pay him ...like any one else..
With what??.we’d need Donald Trumps coffers to get him here,
I repeat , He wants a pension and more importantly a goodbye Premiership.
Unless Harry ( you remember Harry, the poor mans Nick Politis)
Opens up his wallett and buys him , forget that daydream, that won’t be happening , at least in the near future,
You've been crapping on for weeks about people "making stuff up" and then you go telling us all what your best mate Wayne Bennett wants. He tell you that down at the pub did he?

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Post by vlad » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:26 am

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:04 am
Geo. wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:55 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:08 pm
sheer64 wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 6:20 pm


Could live with that.
Only one thing you’ve forgotten..... How do we Get Wayne to want to come here, it’s his last contract and wants a premiership as a going away present ,
If nothing gets better here . we won’t be giving him that present.

The Brisbane River will flow clean water , before Bennett comes here except as an opposition Coach.
How..?

Pay him ...like any one else..
With what??.we’d need Donald Trumps coffers to get him here,
I repeat , He wants a pension and more importantly a goodbye Premiership.
Unless Harry ( you remember Harry, the poor mans Nick Politis)
Opens up his wallett and buys him , forget that daydream, that won’t be happening , at least in the near future,
Which available coaching jobs are going to give Wayne a goodbye premiership ?

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Post by Spud Murphy » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:30 am

tiger05premier wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:12 pm
851 wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:03 am
willow wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 8:35 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:32 am


How many times does Bennett have to say that he
Is staying in Brisbane next year before some here finally get it?
Don't jump the gun too quickly on this one. Bennett is the preferred option and what is being reported isn't always true - we've seen enough nonsense printed by journos to know better.
Agree Willow, Bennett wants to coach past 2019, we are offering him a chance, that chance might not be there if we sign Madge for 2019. It looks like Pascoe is playing this well, and Bennett might have to come for 2019, or risk not having a job to go to in 2020
Exactly 851

That's the point of my post

Obviously would like to coach broncos in 2019 but that could leave him stranded without a job

If he was able to sign TPJ to broncos for 1 year than have TPJ agree on nov 1 to sign with us from 2020 they may sway our board to hold IC for 1 more year
I highly doubt that Bennett would be stranded without a job if he stayed in Brisbane one more year and missed out on a coaching contract with WT. We definitely wouldn't be the only club wanting his services once he is off contract, he'll have other options.

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Post by innsaneink » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:38 am

Im sure Waynes been around long enough to know there are NO guarantees in sport... #waynewants

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Post by magpiecol » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:40 am

matchball wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 8:35 am
momo&medo wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm
matchball wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:15 pm
Somehow I feel we will get a dud deal.
I'll laugh if we end up with Griffin and release Cleary. Gus doing the old switcheroo on the coaches.
Knowing us we will probably cop that. I hate this club at times.
Another one :crazy
You never have anything of value to add?

Do you think our club will come out on top here? I don't.
The CEO and admin are dead quiet.
The coach is dead quiet.
The players have no idea what's going onand of course we the fans have no idea.

Less than a month before pre season training and we already a mess for 2019.

I'm willing to bet we won't end up with Bennett or Madge.
We are just too disfunctional to attract anyone with any real talent.
Give all the doom and gloom a rest and WAIT.

:brick:

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Post by Pawsandclaws » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:48 am

magpiecol wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:40 am
matchball wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 8:35 am
momo&medo wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm
matchball wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:15 pm
Somehow I feel we will get a dud deal.
I'll laugh if we end up with Griffin and release Cleary. Gus doing the old switcheroo on the coaches.
Knowing us we will probably cop that. I hate this club at times.
Another one :crazy
You never have anything of value to add?

Do you think our club will come out on top here? I don't.
The CEO and admin are dead quiet.
The coach is dead quiet.
The players have no idea what's going onand of course we the fans have no idea.

Less than a month before pre season training and we already a mess for 2019.

I'm willing to bet we won't end up with Bennett or Madge.
We are just too disfunctional to attract anyone with any real talent.
Give all the doom and gloom a rest and WAIT.

:brick:
Col, I guess the colonics didn't work?

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:18 am

Tiger Steve wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:47 pm
tiger05premier wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:27 pm
formerguest wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 8:11 pm
coivtny wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:45 pm

A bit early for hate don't you think. We haven't signed a new coach yet and still might end up with Cleary for 2019 at least.
No hate this end, but massive disappointment in an individual. I really find it hard to fathom the ridiculousness and extent of this father/son coaching crap. Unless of course, it has been played out to benefit them both at the expense of many others, and if so, then my feelings for the pair would be verging on hatred.
Agree formerguest
I have a 20 year old son. I love him more than anything on earth. But he’s a lunatic. His ideas are ridiculous. His weekend activities are just plain dumb. You see he’s 20 and I’m 51. Never the two shall meet. Cleary and Cleary- disaster waiting to happen!!
Not saying anything about your own relationship, but the Cleary’ s seem to have to have a great relationship , and only they can say if it will work for them,
Nathan seems to be a lot more sensible than a lot of kids that age,

I was lucky to be able to Coach my own young bloke for a big part of his playing time ,and then , Coach his son with him, untill a crook knee paid to that.

I can honestly say that we never had a argument about playing or Coaching in all that time,
He wasn’t one of shining stars in his younger years and it wasn’t untill he was about 13
That he started to overtake most of the kids that Were our “top”Players, previously.
So we had to go through the “ sitting your own son on the bench bit”. But it wasn’t a problem,

Obviously there’s a world of difference in all of this, and the pressure of NRL,,
But if that relationship is based on mutual respect and a clear boundary set as to how problems are handled, it can be very successfull,

The best people that can tell if it will work for them , is them and only them,
It’s worked before in first grade and no doubt it will again probably at Cronulla next year,
I hope that they do get to do it, just not in the next two years :D
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Post by tiger05premier » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:19 am

Nelson wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:21 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:04 am
Geo. wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:55 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:08 pm


Only one thing you’ve forgotten..... How do we Get Wayne to want to come here, it’s his last contract and wants a premiership as a going away present ,
If nothing gets better here . we won’t be giving him that present.

The Brisbane River will flow clean water , before Bennett comes here except as an opposition Coach.
How..?

Pay him ...like any one else..
With what??.we’d need Donald Trumps coffers to get him here,
I repeat , He wants a pension and more importantly a goodbye Premiership.
Unless Harry ( you remember Harry, the poor mans Nick Politis)
Opens up his wallett and buys him , forget that daydream, that won’t be happening , at least in the near future,
You've been crapping on for weeks about people "making stuff up" and then you go telling us all what your best mate Wayne Bennett wants. He tell you that down at the pub did he?
Good stuff Nelson

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Post by tiger05premier » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:22 am

Spud Murphy wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:30 am
tiger05premier wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:12 pm
851 wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:03 am
willow wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 8:35 am


Don't jump the gun too quickly on this one. Bennett is the preferred option and what is being reported isn't always true - we've seen enough nonsense printed by journos to know better.
Agree Willow, Bennett wants to coach past 2019, we are offering him a chance, that chance might not be there if we sign Madge for 2019. It looks like Pascoe is playing this well, and Bennett might have to come for 2019, or risk not having a job to go to in 2020
Exactly 851

That's the point of my post

Obviously would like to coach broncos in 2019 but that could leave him stranded without a job

If he was able to sign TPJ to broncos for 1 year than have TPJ agree on nov 1 to sign with us from 2020 they may sway our board to hold IC for 1 more year
I highly doubt that Bennett would be stranded without a job if he stayed in Brisbane one more year and missed out on a coaching contract with WT. We definitely wouldn't be the only club wanting his services once he is off contract, he'll have other options.
No we wouldn't be the only club spud but maybe the rumours are true and he does want to come here

Can only hope

Time will tell

Only than they are just opinions nothing more

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Post by momo&medo » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:29 am

matchball wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 8:35 am
momo&medo wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm
matchball wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:15 pm
Somehow I feel we will get a dud deal.
I'll laugh if we end up with Griffin and release Cleary. Gus doing the old switcheroo on the coaches.
Knowing us we will probably cop that. I hate this club at times.
Another one :crazy
You never have anything of value to add?

Do you think our club will come out on top here? I don't.
The CEO and admin are dead quiet.
The coach is dead quiet.
The players have no idea what's going onand of course we the fans have no idea.

Less than a month before pre season training and we already a mess for 2019.

I'm willing to bet we won't end up with Bennett or Madge.
We are just too disfunctional to attract anyone with any real talent.
Add value when it’s warranted.
No value adding to your post deemed necessary.
I’m afraid it appears to be Just one long sad story for you. And waiting is an effort. SIGH

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Post by Spud Murphy » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:38 am

tiger05premier wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:22 am
Spud Murphy wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:30 am
tiger05premier wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:12 pm
851 wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:03 am

Agree Willow, Bennett wants to coach past 2019, we are offering him a chance, that chance might not be there if we sign Madge for 2019. It looks like Pascoe is playing this well, and Bennett might have to come for 2019, or risk not having a job to go to in 2020
Exactly 851

That's the point of my post

Obviously would like to coach broncos in 2019 but that could leave him stranded without a job

If he was able to sign TPJ to broncos for 1 year than have TPJ agree on nov 1 to sign with us from 2020 they may sway our board to hold IC for 1 more year
I highly doubt that Bennett would be stranded without a job if he stayed in Brisbane one more year and missed out on a coaching contract with WT. We definitely wouldn't be the only club wanting his services once he is off contract, he'll have other options.
No we wouldn't be the only club spud but maybe the rumours are true and he does want to come here

Can only hope

Time will tell

Only than they are just opinions nothing more
Yeah it would be great if we were Wayne's first preference. Would make a nice change if we were able to attract the best coaches/players for once. Fingers crossed 🤞

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:42 am

Nelson wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:21 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 9:04 am
Geo. wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:55 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 7:08 pm


Only one thing you’ve forgotten..... How do we Get Wayne to want to come here, it’s his last contract and wants a premiership as a going away present ,
If nothing gets better here . we won’t be giving him that present.

The Brisbane River will flow clean water , before Bennett comes here except as an opposition Coach.
How..?

Pay him ...like any one else..
With what??.we’d need Donald Trumps coffers to get him here,
I repeat , He wants a pension and more importantly a goodbye Premiership.
Unless Harry ( you remember Harry, the poor mans Nick Politis)
Opens up his wallett and buys him , forget that daydream, that won’t be happening , at least in the near future,
You've been crapping on for weeks about people "making stuff up" and then you go telling us all what your best mate Wayne Bennett wants. He tell you that down at the pub did he?
Geez we have a bad night , did we.???
Actually it wasn’t at the pub, I’m having breakfast on the top deck of his yacht with him and he says to say hello to you, and not to hold your breath about him coming there,

Ok we’ll have it your way then,
He’ll be here next week , and we’ll have him for at least three premierships and then he will refund his payment because he’s such a nice man and is doing all these coaching gigs for the fun of it
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Post by Tiger Steve » Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:44 am

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 14 Oct, 2018 10:18 am
Tiger Steve wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:47 pm
tiger05premier wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:27 pm
formerguest wrote:
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 8:11 pm


No hate this end, but massive disappointment in an individual. I really find it hard to fathom the ridiculousness and extent of this father/son coaching crap. Unless of course, it has been played out to benefit them both at the expense of many others, and if so, then my feelings for the pair would be verging on hatred.
Agree formerguest
I have a 20 year old son. I love him more than anything on earth. But he’s a lunatic. His ideas are ridiculous. His weekend activities are just plain dumb. You see he’s 20 and I’m 51. Never the two shall meet. Cleary and Cleary- disaster waiting to happen!!
Not saying anything about your own relationship, but the Cleary’ s seem to have to have a great relationship , and only they can say if it will work for them,
Nathan seems to be a lot more sensible than a lot of kids that age,

I was lucky to be able to Coach my own bloke for a big part of his playing time ,and then , Coach his son with him, untill a crook knee paid to that.

I can honestly say that we never had a argument about playing or Coaching in all that time,
He wasn’t one of shining stars in his younger years and it wasn’t untill he was about 13
That he started to overtake most of the kids that Were our “top”Players, previously.
So we had to go through the “ sitting your own son on the bench bit”. But it wasn’t a problem,

Obviously there’s a world of difference in all of this, and the pressure of NRL,,
But if that relationship is based on mutual respect and a clear boundary set as to how problems are handled, it can be very successfull,

The best people that can tell if it will work for them , is them and only them,
It’s worked before in first grade and no doubt it will again probably at Cronulla next year,
I hope that they do get to do it, just not in the next two years :D
Fair point. It might work I think you’re right about Nathan but I’m also aware that a 30 year olds mindset can change pretty quickly.
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