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Re: Tigers set to part ways with Cleary and seal Bennett deal

Post by goldcoast tiger » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 8:31 pm

tiger05premier wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 5:52 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 5:31 pm
851 wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 5:20 pm
tiger05premier wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 5:09 pm
Maybe we've made our decision

And maybe our future coach knows he has the job

But we are delaying an announcement to make pus gus sweat it out a bit
You might be on to something, any hurt we can cause Gus is well earned on his part
Why would Gus sweat it out
They’ve got choices , and aren’t hanging out for a coach that can theoretically bring players with him
It seems that Penrith are still in the box seat whatever happens
After playing ducks and Drakes for this long , our guys have to come up with something soon, or risk looking like Amateurs.
Because they have ciraldo but want IC

Anyway you need to get a life

You comment negatively on every post written like it personally affects you

My post was just a light hearted thought on what might be happening

It might not be though

I don’t really care

But you obviously do
Touchy touchy aren’t we :lol: :master:
You certainly object to a different opinion


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Post by jirskyr » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 8:42 pm

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 5:31 pm
851 wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 5:20 pm
tiger05premier wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 5:09 pm
Maybe we've made our decision

And maybe our future coach knows he has the job

But we are delaying an announcement to make pus gus sweat it out a bit
You might be on to something, any hurt we can cause Gus is well earned on his part
Why would Gus sweat it out
They’ve got choices , and aren’t hanging out for a coach that can theoretically bring players with him
It seems that Penrith are still in the box seat whatever happens
After playing ducks and Drakes for this long , our guys have to come up with something soon, or risk looking like Amateurs.
Totally disagree. Penrith don't have choices, they have almost no choice at all.

Ciraldo is officially their coach for 2019. They are trying to get Cleary in ASAP, which means Ciraldo certainly is not their first-choice. So Penrith risk going into 2019 without a first-choice coach.

They might say they are happy with Ciraldo - but if so, why all the drama to get Ivan back?

About half the fans on here are saying it would be worth having a caretaker coach for 2019 if we could sign Bennett for 2020. That's half of what Penrith are reportedly already committing to - 2 years of Ciraldo, then replaced by Cleary.

So the team that stands to lose the most here is Penrith - they've played their hand and now have to wait for everyone else to shuffle. Tigers either get a new coach or Ivan remains for 2 more seasons, the latter of which was always the plan anyway. But Penrith risk being left with a novice caretaker coach for 2 seasons.

Gus has been sweating on this since the day he agreed to fire Griffin. His fat puffy face has been sweating in every paper and on every show ever since.

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Post by jirskyr » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 8:42 pm

diedpretty wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 6:47 pm
Lauren wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:54 pm
hammertime wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:43 pm
Lauren wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:32 pm
the longer it drags on, it only makes me doubt that Justin & Marina have any control at all.

Lauren wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:32 pm
and the last thing we need is to make rash decisions that only lead us to a repeat of the coaching predicament post Sheens.
Slightly conflicting there Lauren.

I think Justin and Marina are taking their time to ensure they explore all possible options and go through the due process. Our problem before was that we didn't do that.
Yeah now we're awaiting on how things unveil at the Broncos and it makes me feel they haven't really got a handle on things.
Rash might be the wrong word. But I don't want the club to set forth a plan totally based on another club's decision. This sends the wrong message to me.

Meanwhile Gus Gould only has to sit back while everything plays into his hands. This is what is most frustrating to me.
You're right. I can't stand the fact that Gould comes out of this with exactly what he wanted. I'm inclined to offer Benny a 3/4 yr contract from 2020, tell Cleary he is going nowhere next year and take away all recruitment decisions from him. Might just wipe the smirk off Gould's face.



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How could Gould possibly truly want Ivan back? Is that truly his top outcome?

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Post by WT2K » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 7:56 pm
THE POM wrote:
Tue 16 Oct, 2018 4:03 pm
Michael Maguire is in the box seat for 2019 only thing that will change that is if In the next 24-36hrs Bennett changed his mind & quits Brisbane.
Also Luke Brooks will re-sign for a further 3 years.
Times up Benny
Benny staying in Brisbane for one more year me thinks..
No more plodders!
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Post by Spacecub » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:33 pm

:roll i8
jirskyr wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 8:42 pm
diedpretty wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 6:47 pm
Lauren wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:54 pm
hammertime wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:43 pm




Slightly conflicting there Lauren.

I think Justin and Marina are taking their time to ensure they explore all possible options and go through the due process. Our problem before was that we didn't do that.
Yeah now we're awaiting on how things unveil at the Broncos and it makes me feel they haven't really got a handle on things.
Rash might be the wrong word. But I don't want the club to set forth a plan totally based on another club's decision. This sends the wrong message to me.

Meanwhile Gus Gould only has to sit back while everything plays into his hands. This is what is most frustrating to me.
You're right. I can't stand the fact that Gould comes out of this with exactly what he wanted. I'm inclined to offer Benny a 3/4 yr contract from 2020, tell Cleary he is going nowhere next year and take away all recruitment decisions from him. Might just wipe the smirk off Gould's face.



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How could Gould possibly truly want Ivan back? Is that truly his top outcome?
Been thinking about that myself....this whole dirty exercise was to get Nathan's signature....ivan was just a pawn in gould's filthy little game....with the Panthers roster my thoughts were madge would be ideal to give them the little bit of polish they need.....not an overrated turncoat with a questionable win ratio


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Post by goldcoast tiger » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:34 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 7:55 pm
We’re not starting up the Cleary to reserve grade talk again are we? Spare me.
Of Course,
It’s an oldie, but almost a goodie!
And always good for a laugh :lol:

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Post by Nucky Thompson » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:35 pm

WT2K wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 7:56 pm
THE POM wrote:
Tue 16 Oct, 2018 4:03 pm
Michael Maguire is in the box seat for 2019 only thing that will change that is if In the next 24-36hrs Bennett changed his mind & quits Brisbane.
Also Luke Brooks will re-sign for a further 3 years.
Times up Benny
Benny staying in Brisbane for one more year me thinks..
DT saying things could change is seibold commits to brons 2020.

Souths could say broncs can have seibold 2019.

Cleary to pussy cats.

Bennetts to tigpies.

2019

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Post by Balmain Boy » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:40 pm

Nucky Thompson wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:35 pm
WT2K wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 7:56 pm
THE POM wrote:
Tue 16 Oct, 2018 4:03 pm
Michael Maguire is in the box seat for 2019 only thing that will change that is if In the next 24-36hrs Bennett changed his mind & quits Brisbane.
Also Luke Brooks will re-sign for a further 3 years.
Times up Benny
Benny staying in Brisbane for one more year me thinks..
DT saying things could change is seibold commits to brons 2020.

Souths could say broncs can have seibold 2019.

Cleary to pussy cats.

Bennetts to tigpies.

2019
Theoretically, why would Souths release Seibold early? Who would they replace him with?

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Post by Nucky Thompson » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:43 pm

Balmain Boy wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:40 pm
Nucky Thompson wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:35 pm
WT2K wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 7:56 pm

Times up Benny
Benny staying in Brisbane for one more year me thinks..
DT saying things could change is seibold commits to brons 2020.

Souths could say broncs can have seibold 2019.

Cleary to pussy cats.

Bennetts to tigpies.

2019
Theoretically, why would Souths release Seibold early? Who would they replace him with?
Ivan cleary theory his committed to the enemy elsewhere why keep him.

Mentioned a Melbourne assistant that came from roosters as a replacement souths.

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Post by coivtny » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:44 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 6:46 pm
His contract would state he's employed to coach WTs NRL team... Anything else we'd have him doing we'd be in breach
Pure guesswork.

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Post by helmesy » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:45 pm

Balmain Boy wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:40 pm
Nucky Thompson wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:35 pm
WT2K wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:00 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 7:56 pm

Times up Benny
Benny staying in Brisbane for one more year me thinks..
DT saying things could change is seibold commits to brons 2020.

Souths could say broncs can have seibold 2019.

Cleary to pussy cats.

Bennetts to tigpies.

2019
Theoretically, why would Souths release Seibold early? Who would they replace him with?
Jason Taylor? 😆 hmm Griffin? Toovey? Demetriou?

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Post by Geo. » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:19 pm

This stupid situation is getting more stupid by the day...fair dinkum
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
happy tiger wrote:
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:17 am

OK I was wrong

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Post by TYGA » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:26 pm

Geo. wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:19 pm
This stupid situation is getting more stupid by the day...fair dinkum
The NRL has created this joke. Issue is Greenberg was the biggest culprit poaching Des from Manly when he was Dogs CEO.

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Post by Geo. » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:37 pm

TYGA wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:26 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:19 pm
This stupid situation is getting more stupid by the day...fair dinkum
The NRL has created this joke. Issue is Greenberg was the biggest culprit poaching Des from Manly when he was Dogs CEO.
Didn't Gus originally poach Cleary from the Warriors before that...there is form there..pretty sure he was contracted to the Warriors in 2012 and went to the Riff then...or did it happen in the same seasons..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
happy tiger wrote:
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:17 am

OK I was wrong

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Post by Clearyweareone » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 11:05 pm

Hopefully this circus can be sorted quick smart as we have more players too attract and an off season to commence shortly.

Happy with Maguire as coach

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Post by formerguest » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 11:10 pm

Geo. wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:37 pm
TYGA wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:26 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 10:19 pm
This stupid situation is getting more stupid by the day...fair dinkum
The NRL has created this joke. Issue is Greenberg was the biggest culprit poaching Des from Manly when he was Dogs CEO.
Didn't Gus originally poach Cleary from the Warriors before that...there is form there..pretty sure he was contracted to the Warriors in 2012 and went to the Riff then...or did it happen in the same seasons..
He had a full year and a couple of months of contract to fulfill, but was released as he had committed elsewhere.

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Post by Lauren » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 11:41 pm

bathursttiger wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 8:14 pm
hammertime wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:43 pm
Lauren wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:32 pm
the longer it drags on, it only makes me doubt that Justin & Marina have any control at all.

Lauren wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 4:32 pm
and the last thing we need is to make rash decisions that only lead us to a repeat of the coaching predicament post Sheens.
Slightly conflicting there Lauren.

I think Justin and Marina are taking their time to ensure they explore all possible options and go through the due process. Our problem before was that we didn't do that.
Me thinks Lauren might be blonde.
It’s been scientifically proven that long term use of peroxide causes permanent brain damage.
I do have natural blonde hair but don't think it has any relevance to the forum. Yes I'm not as knowledgeable about rugby league as other users but for someone that has completed dual BSc/BEd degrees with majors including Archaeological Science and Biophysics, I do have above average intelligence.

I'm at work most of the times that I've commented on here and admit I sometimes submit a comment without checking it, but most people here get the gist of what I meant.

I visit this forum (and probably a little too) often, because I actually enjoy reading everyone's posts -whether I agree with what they write or not. Though I haven't encountered everyone on here I have always felt totally welcomed to share my opinion because I see others share something from their own perspective too.

I know its great to see some humour on here, but I am honestly uncomfortable it's at my expense. I only ever joined this forum because I love knowing there are other passionate fans who happen to love the same club that I do. So this is totally uncalled for.

Also, apologies to the mods as I didn't realise I implied curse words earlier.

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Post by TIGERPOWER » Thu 18 Oct, 2018 11:47 pm

coivtny wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 9:44 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Thu 18 Oct, 2018 6:46 pm
His contract would state he's employed to coach WTs NRL team... Anything else we'd have him doing we'd be in breach
Pure guesswork.
100% agree. How can anyone call a breach when they haven’t even read a coaches contract or have any idea about employment law is beyond me.

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