2019 Coaching saga -Thread

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Re: 2019 Coaching saga -Thread

Post by happy tiger » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 7:51 am

Bennett has been a master of using the Brisbane press to get what he wants in the past

Where did the original story of Bennett to the WT's actually come from .......... :idea:


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Post by matchball » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:11 am

Ill take Maguire. Better bargaining chip for next season of musical coaches.

Hopefully we can trade him for Wayne in 12 months time.

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Post by innsaneink » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:43 am

matchball wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:11 am
Ill take Maguire. Better bargaining chip for next season of musical coaches.

Hopefully we can trade him for Wayne in 12 months time.
So we'd have a coach for a year with one eye elsewhere?

Sounds familiar

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Post by Telltails » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:45 am

It seems that the Broncos are in the driving seat and we will have to wait till they appoint their new coach or knock back applicants, before we can properly determine our path.
If it means holding on to Cleary for another year the club will have to be prepared to wear the impact of that if the results are poor on the field. It will be relentless and will have us back in the basketcase categorie again.

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Post by TYGA » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:29 am

Pascoe didn’t fly through Auckland to have a chat to coaches based in Australia. Someone signed a contract.


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Post by Tigerdon » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:32 am

Manly are looking at making Barrett work along side Des rather than releasing him.
Smh

Manly have no intention of paying out Trent Barrett, who will be made to continue working for his contract money long after Des Hasler is appointed as his replacement.

Hasler’s return to the northern beaches on a three-year deal will be trumpeted next week, marking an unlikely return to the Sea Eagles. It was widely considered the Hasler deal would not be announced until a settlement had been reached with Barrett, who gave a 12-month notice period last July.

Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.
Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.CREDIT:AAP
But in an unprecedented scenario, the Sea Eagles intend for Barrett to serve out his time in a yet-to-be-defined role, meaning he will remain at the club until the middle of next year alongside Hasler.

The extraordinary transition plan means Barrett is expected to keep working for his money long after the new coach's appointment. Manly powerbrokers are adamant they won’t be paying out a cent to Barrett to get him off their books, but are prepared to grant him a release should he ask for one. Such a move would prevent them from having to pay two coaches at the same time.
Barrett continues to log in at work every day and prepare for the upcoming pre-season to ensure he fulfils his contractual commitments. Sea Eagles officials privately believe he handed in his notice in the expectation he would take over from Anthony Griffin at Penrith, where Barrett was previously an assistant. However, Cameron Ciraldo remains the caretaker Panthers coach until Ivan Cleary rejoins the club, a move most expect will happen in coming weeks.

Barrett’s legal team is closely monitoring the situation in the belief that only their client can claim to be the first-grade coach until his term is served. However, the Sea Eagles are also confident in their position, setting up an ugly stand-off between a coach who seemingly doesn’t want to be there and a club not prepared to pay him out.

Barrett has publicly slammed Manly over the lack of infrastructure and support he has received during his time at the club. However, the facilities are on improvement on those Hasler had at his disposal when he took the Sea Eagles to two premierships.

Hasler’s return to Manly will be the first domino to fall in one of the biggest shake-ups of the coaching ranks in NRL history. Up to five clubs could experience a change of clipboard holder before the 2019 season kicks off.

Cleary is contracted to Wests Tigers for the next two years but is understood to have agreed to return to the foot of the mountains on a three-year deal beginning in 2021. That move will put pressure on the Tigers to release him immediately, although they won’t do so unless they can find a suitable replacement.

Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe has taken a group of corporate sponsors on a study trip of the United States, touring a range of businesses and sporting organisations including the Chicago Bulls. It’s understood Pascoe has met up with potential Cleary replacements Michael Maguire and Wayne Bennett between his US commitments.

Complicating matters is the fact that Bennett is contracted for next season and Maguire is one of four candidates in the running to replace him. The others are Queensland coach Kevin Walters, Broncos assistant Andrew Demetriou and South Sydney coach Anthony Seibold, who is also contracted until 2020. Seibold is the favourite and the Rabbitohs may be prepared to release him immediately if they can find a suitable replacement, raising the possibility of a straight swap for Bennett.

Maguire’s preference is the Brisbane job, but the New Zealand coach will firm for the Tigers post if he misses out. The Tigers have been inundated with expressions of interest but the joint-venture outfit will only release Cleary if they jag a big-name replacement. That leaves only Maguire and Bennett, the latter keen on a long-term deal once he leaves Red Hill.
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Post by Tcat » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:36 am

TYGA wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:29 am
Pascoe didn’t fly through Auckland to have a chat to coaches based in Australia. Someone signed a contract.
I was thinking the same thing. Unless he went there to beg him in person because Bennett is no chance of coming to us.

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Post by coivtny » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:54 am

Tigerdon wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:32 am
Manly are looking at making Barrett work along side Des rather than releasing him.
Smh

Manly have no intention of paying out Trent Barrett, who will be made to continue working for his contract money long after Des Hasler is appointed as his replacement.

Hasler’s return to the northern beaches on a three-year deal will be trumpeted next week, marking an unlikely return to the Sea Eagles. It was widely considered the Hasler deal would not be announced until a settlement had been reached with Barrett, who gave a 12-month notice period last July.

Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.
Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.CREDIT:AAP
But in an unprecedented scenario, the Sea Eagles intend for Barrett to serve out his time in a yet-to-be-defined role, meaning he will remain at the club until the middle of next year alongside Hasler.

The extraordinary transition plan means Barrett is expected to keep working for his money long after the new coach's appointment. Manly powerbrokers are adamant they won’t be paying out a cent to Barrett to get him off their books, but are prepared to grant him a release should he ask for one. Such a move would prevent them from having to pay two coaches at the same time.
Barrett continues to log in at work every day and prepare for the upcoming pre-season to ensure he fulfils his contractual commitments. Sea Eagles officials privately believe he handed in his notice in the expectation he would take over from Anthony Griffin at Penrith, where Barrett was previously an assistant. However, Cameron Ciraldo remains the caretaker Panthers coach until Ivan Cleary rejoins the club, a move most expect will happen in coming weeks.

Barrett’s legal team is closely monitoring the situation in the belief that only their client can claim to be the first-grade coach until his term is served. However, the Sea Eagles are also confident in their position, setting up an ugly stand-off between a coach who seemingly doesn’t want to be there and a club not prepared to pay him out.

Barrett has publicly slammed Manly over the lack of infrastructure and support he has received during his time at the club. However, the facilities are on improvement on those Hasler had at his disposal when he took the Sea Eagles to two premierships.

Hasler’s return to Manly will be the first domino to fall in one of the biggest shake-ups of the coaching ranks in NRL history. Up to five clubs could experience a change of clipboard holder before the 2019 season kicks off.

Cleary is contracted to Wests Tigers for the next two years but is understood to have agreed to return to the foot of the mountains on a three-year deal beginning in 2021. That move will put pressure on the Tigers to release him immediately, although they won’t do so unless they can find a suitable replacement.

Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe has taken a group of corporate sponsors on a study trip of the United States, touring a range of businesses and sporting organisations including the Chicago Bulls. It’s understood Pascoe has met up with potential Cleary replacements Michael Maguire and Wayne Bennett between his US commitments.

Complicating matters is the fact that Bennett is contracted for next season and Maguire is one of four candidates in the running to replace him. The others are Queensland coach Kevin Walters, Broncos assistant Andrew Demetriou and South Sydney coach Anthony Seibold, who is also contracted until 2020. Seibold is the favourite and the Rabbitohs may be prepared to release him immediately if they can find a suitable replacement, raising the possibility of a straight swap for Bennett.

Maguire’s preference is the Brisbane job, but the New Zealand coach will firm for the Tigers post if he misses out. The Tigers have been inundated with expressions of interest but the joint-venture outfit will only release Cleary if they jag a big-name replacement. That leaves only Maguire and Bennett, the latter keen on a long-term deal once he leaves Red Hill.
Oh wow, Barrett apparently doesn't have one of those contracts that says he must be THE coach of the Manly NRL side. Bu, snarky comments aside, this is exactly what we should be doing with Cleary if he tries to hang out for a payout.

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Post by happy tiger » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:07 am

TYGA wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:29 am
Pascoe didn’t fly through Auckland to have a chat to coaches based in Australia. Someone signed a contract.
Someone did mention about a Warriors player possibly signing ....... :sign:

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Post by Red88 Tiger » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:22 am

Tigerdon wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:32 am
Manly are looking at making Barrett work along side Des rather than releasing him.
Smh

Manly have no intention of paying out Trent Barrett, who will be made to continue working for his contract money long after Des Hasler is appointed as his replacement.

Hasler’s return to the northern beaches on a three-year deal will be trumpeted next week, marking an unlikely return to the Sea Eagles. It was widely considered the Hasler deal would not be announced until a settlement had been reached with Barrett, who gave a 12-month notice period last July.

Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.
Fallout: Manly has no intention of paying out Trent Barrett.CREDIT:AAP
But in an unprecedented scenario, the Sea Eagles intend for Barrett to serve out his time in a yet-to-be-defined role, meaning he will remain at the club until the middle of next year alongside Hasler.

The extraordinary transition plan means Barrett is expected to keep working for his money long after the new coach's appointment. Manly powerbrokers are adamant they won’t be paying out a cent to Barrett to get him off their books, but are prepared to grant him a release should he ask for one. Such a move would prevent them from having to pay two coaches at the same time.
Barrett continues to log in at work every day and prepare for the upcoming pre-season to ensure he fulfils his contractual commitments. Sea Eagles officials privately believe he handed in his notice in the expectation he would take over from Anthony Griffin at Penrith, where Barrett was previously an assistant. However, Cameron Ciraldo remains the caretaker Panthers coach until Ivan Cleary rejoins the club, a move most expect will happen in coming weeks.

Barrett’s legal team is closely monitoring the situation in the belief that only their client can claim to be the first-grade coach until his term is served. However, the Sea Eagles are also confident in their position, setting up an ugly stand-off between a coach who seemingly doesn’t want to be there and a club not prepared to pay him out.

Barrett has publicly slammed Manly over the lack of infrastructure and support he has received during his time at the club. However, the facilities are on improvement on those Hasler had at his disposal when he took the Sea Eagles to two premierships.

Hasler’s return to Manly will be the first domino to fall in one of the biggest shake-ups of the coaching ranks in NRL history. Up to five clubs could experience a change of clipboard holder before the 2019 season kicks off.

Cleary is contracted to Wests Tigers for the next two years but is understood to have agreed to return to the foot of the mountains on a three-year deal beginning in 2021. That move will put pressure on the Tigers to release him immediately, although they won’t do so unless they can find a suitable replacement.

Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe has taken a group of corporate sponsors on a study trip of the United States, touring a range of businesses and sporting organisations including the Chicago Bulls. It’s understood Pascoe has met up with potential Cleary replacements Michael Maguire and Wayne Bennett between his US commitments.

Complicating matters is the fact that Bennett is contracted for next season and Maguire is one of four candidates in the running to replace him. The others are Queensland coach Kevin Walters, Broncos assistant Andrew Demetriou and South Sydney coach Anthony Seibold, who is also contracted until 2020. Seibold is the favourite and the Rabbitohs may be prepared to release him immediately if they can find a suitable replacement, raising the possibility of a straight swap for Bennett.

Maguire’s preference is the Brisbane job, but the New Zealand coach will firm for the Tigers post if he misses out. The Tigers have been inundated with expressions of interest but the joint-venture outfit will only release Cleary if they jag a big-name replacement. That leaves only Maguire and Bennett, the latter keen on a long-term deal once he leaves Red Hill.
Wouldn't it be funny
Barrett to panthers
Bennett to parra
Siebold extends at souths
Maguire to donkeys
Ivan gets shafted by gus again
And all journos act like they knew all along

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Post by bathursttiger » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:26 am

Telltails wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:45 am
It seems that the Broncos are in the driving seat and we will have to wait till they appoint their new coach or knock back applicants, before we can properly determine our path.
If it means holding on to Cleary for another year the club will have to be prepared to wear the impact of that if the results are poor on the field. It will be relentless and will have us back in the basketcase categorie again.
Also Ivan’s reputation in tatters.

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Post by bathursttiger » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:34 am

This is going to just take one move by a club and all the dominoes will fall into place.

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Post by matchball » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:38 am

innsaneink wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:43 am
matchball wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:11 am
Ill take Maguire. Better bargaining chip for next season of musical coaches.

Hopefully we can trade him for Wayne in 12 months time.
So we'd have a coach for a year with one eye elsewhere?

Sounds familiar
Contracts aren't worth a thing these days so why not just grab the best we can now and that can be our bargaining chip for the future.
NRL won't do a thing about it so what else can we do?
Musical chairs of coaching is just another thing wrong with the game. Greenberg has ruined the game in his time running it. No doubt.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:42 am

matchball wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:38 am
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:43 am
matchball wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:11 am
Ill take Maguire. Better bargaining chip for next season of musical coaches.

Hopefully we can trade him for Wayne in 12 months time.
So we'd have a coach for a year with one eye elsewhere?

Sounds familiar
Contracts aren't worth a thing these days so why not just grab the best we can now and that can be our bargaining chip for the future.
NRL won't do a thing about it so what else can we do?
Musical chairs of coaching is just another thing wrong with the game. Greenberg has ruined the game in his time running it. No doubt.
This is why I was scratching my head when the story was circulating that we’d signed Maguire for 4 years. What does that even mean? Why not just sign him for 10 years, or even 20.

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Post by jirskyr » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:49 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:42 am
matchball wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:38 am
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:43 am
matchball wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 8:11 am
Ill take Maguire. Better bargaining chip for next season of musical coaches.

Hopefully we can trade him for Wayne in 12 months time.
So we'd have a coach for a year with one eye elsewhere?

Sounds familiar
Contracts aren't worth a thing these days so why not just grab the best we can now and that can be our bargaining chip for the future.
NRL won't do a thing about it so what else can we do?
Musical chairs of coaching is just another thing wrong with the game. Greenberg has ruined the game in his time running it. No doubt.
This is why I was scratching my head when the story was circulating that we’d signed Maguire for 4 years. What does that even mean? Why not just sign him for 10 years, or even 20.
Because you open yourself to massive payouts if things don't go to plan.

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Post by jirskyr » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:52 am

Fade To Black wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 1:29 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 1:26 pm
I agree with Jirksyr, worst case scenario and we miss out on both Maguire and Bennett, we’ll stick with Cleary. Maybe re-evaluate the coaching landscape at the end of 2019 and see whose available.
Worst case scenario is if Cleary is coaching us next season. A bloke who will just be scratching his cods itching to get out of WT and back to Penrith. He won't care if we finish last next year, he won't care if players regress under him while he is here either. It will be a balls-up of monumental proportions if he is still here next year. No players will entertain coming to our club if it degenerates into a laughing stock (yet again) next season.
Ivan the sell-out must be shoved out the door at all costs, Penrith can have him next year, he is hardly a supercoach thus far in his coaching career.
Just want the turncoat gone ASAP.
How is that any different to Bennett Broncos 2019 or Seibold Rabbitohs 2019?

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Post by Seantice » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:53 am

TYGA wrote:
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 9:29 am
Pascoe didn’t fly through Auckland to have a chat to coaches based in Australia. Someone signed a contract.
I agree. I think Maguire is already signed and are just sorting Clearly out. Honestly Tigers have a lot of upside. Great fan support, new COE being built and playing out of the new WSS stadium. Our roster is a good starting point and we have money still in the cap free.

I think Maguire is signed and we will just wait until Justin is back in the country to tell us.

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Post by Chicken Faced Killa » Sat 20 Oct, 2018 10:55 am

So if Maguire has signed on who coaches the side at the start of pre season. New Zealand tests will still be going on.

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