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Re: The Ashes

Post by happy tiger » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 4:11 pm

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Sat 30 Dec, 2017 3:52 pm
I wonder if there is anything in the fact once the Aussies went up 2-0 both pitches since have been roads.
It was quite interesting listening to Mike Atherton's comments

He couldn't believe how a pitch this dry hasn't begun to break up at all and wondered whether if England had a class spinner would it had made a difference ??

My initial thought was SK Warne or Murali would of got it to spin on that track on Day 5


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Post by Cultured Bogan » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 4:13 pm

Tacky wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 3:57 pm
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 2:37 pm
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Fri 29 Dec, 2017 12:17 pm
Another great knock by Khawaja. Amazing the amount of crap the Marsh brothers cop, they are a punchline. Yet this guy gets off scot free.
I really like watching Khawaja bat when he actually gets a start, but he's a poor mans Mark Waugh. Technically beautiful stroke player, but absoutely no mettle and always looks like he's ready to bottle it.

Amazing that Renshaw got hoisted after having a great home series last year yet others got a start.

Maxwell averaging 74 at 3 for Victoria. Might be worth considering for the SCG. Offers another spin option too.
Stephen O'Keefe will play in Sydney.
Not likely since Agar has been called in and SOK hasn't.
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 4:17 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 4:11 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 3:52 pm
I wonder if there is anything in the fact once the Aussies went up 2-0 both pitches since have been roads.
It was quite interesting listening to Mike Atherton's comments

He couldn't believe how a pitch this dry hasn't begun to break up at all and wondered whether if England had a class spinner would it had made a difference ??

My initial thought was SK Warne or Murali would of got it to spin on that track on Day 5
MCG has been garbage for years so it's expected.

Perth was a road the first day or so until the grand canyon formed down the middle of it. It was infinitely better than the last few years. That Test against the Kiwis there was an embarrassment.
And she's turning cold, at fifteen years old,
Taken too much slow, minds gone out to sea on the P&O,
Don't know what to do, rotten shade of blue,
Another case of "stupid is as stupid does..."

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Post by Munk » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 5:22 pm

Another great fighting ton for Smith.
Australia battled well to save that test.
Pom bowlers needed to be smarter.

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Post by happy tiger » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 6:23 pm

Munk wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 5:22 pm
Another great fighting ton for Smith.
Australia battled well to save that test.
Pom bowlers needed to be smarter.
Poms captain needs to be smarter and more aggressive

How could anyone bowl to those fields that Root sets ??


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Post by supercoach » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 6:42 pm

The drop in pitch has to be reviewed and the role the broadcaster has in what sort of pitch is produced also has to be reviewed.

A few years ago we had a different style of wicket at every ground. The bowlers and the batsmen all got conditions that both helped and hindered them. It was a real test of skill for 22 players. Now we are producing wickets designed to make tests last five days. I have faced bowling machines that offer more variation than the bowlers from most sides could muster over the last five days.

I say bring back the old gabba,waca,adl oval,mcg and scg wickets that gave everyone a chance to test their skills. As I said on another forum, its no wonder we struggle to win matches when we travel beyond the heads. Sadly Test cricket will die a slow death and the circus stuff will take over if they keep serving up flat tops

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Post by jadtiger » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:11 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 6:23 pm
Munk wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 5:22 pm
Another great fighting ton for Smith.
Australia battled well to save that test.
Pom bowlers needed to be smarter.
Poms captain needs to be smarter and more aggressive

How could anyone bowl to those fields that Root sets ??
Root is far to defensive in his fields.He hasnt realised yet that when you tour you need to bowl the opposition out twice and not rely on pitches designed to aid your attack like they do in the uk

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Post by happy tiger » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:17 pm

supercoach wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 6:42 pm
The drop in pitch has to be reviewed and the role the broadcaster has in what sort of pitch is produced also has to be reviewed.

A few years ago we had a different style of wicket at every ground. The bowlers and the batsmen all got conditions that both helped and hindered them. It was a real test of skill for 22 players. Now we are producing wickets designed to make tests last five days. I have faced bowling machines that offer more variation than the bowlers from most sides could muster over the last five days.

I say bring back the old gabba,waca,adl oval,mcg and scg wickets that gave everyone a chance to test their skills. As I said on another forum, its no wonder we struggle to win matches when we travel beyond the heads. Sadly Test cricket will die a slow death and the circus stuff will take over if they keep serving up flat tops
I guess we can blame the NRL and AFL players for that SC

Imagine if they scratched themselves on the old cricket wickets like they used to , imagine what RLPA would do then :bawling

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Post by InBenjiWeTrust » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:21 pm

another great knock, when it counts, from that fantastic Qld-er Steve Smith :)

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Post by Geo. » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:31 pm

hobbo wrote:
Thu 28 Dec, 2017 4:32 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 28 Dec, 2017 1:49 pm
Would not surprise me if we have a 1st innings box set lead...

Nice one Garry..
Hey mate what's the score ?

My TV's on the blink !
How did the Poms finish up..Did they manage to destroy Australia's batting....hard to get signal here in Whakatane...
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Post by Tacky » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:42 pm

Cultured Bogan wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 4:13 pm
Tacky wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 3:57 pm
Cultured Bogan wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 2:37 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 29 Dec, 2017 12:17 pm
Another great knock by Khawaja. Amazing the amount of crap the Marsh brothers cop, they are a punchline. Yet this guy gets off scot free.
I really like watching Khawaja bat when he actually gets a start, but he's a poor mans Mark Waugh. Technically beautiful stroke player, but absoutely no mettle and always looks like he's ready to bottle it.

Amazing that Renshaw got hoisted after having a great home series last year yet others got a start.

Maxwell averaging 74 at 3 for Victoria. Might be worth considering for the SCG. Offers another spin option too.
Stephen O'Keefe will play in Sydney.
Not likely since Agar has been called in and SOK hasn't.
Yeah just saw that. I would prefer we drop Kawahja for Handscomb and Marsh for Agar. Handscomb has more upside as a 3 then Kawahja and Agar is a better bowler than Marsh.

I hope Starc pulls up good for the next one though, cos our bowling attack was real shaky without him.

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Post by hobbo » Sat 30 Dec, 2017 9:35 pm

Geo. wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:31 pm
hobbo wrote:
Thu 28 Dec, 2017 4:32 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 28 Dec, 2017 1:49 pm
Would not surprise me if we have a 1st innings box set lead...

Nice one Garry..
Hey mate what's the score ?

My TV's on the blink !
How did the Poms finish up..Did they manage to destroy Australia's batting....hard to get signal here in Whakatane...
The Poms fought hard Geo they really did , but due to a garbage MCG wicket a draw was a fitting result !
Those coin operated TV's in Whakatane are crap aren't they !

Maybe try a 2 star motel next time :D
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Post by Tigerdon » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 3:27 pm

Oh and Moeen has the highest average for the series now of 133.66, surpassing Smith’s 133.55.
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Post by happy tiger » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:07 pm

hobbo wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 9:35 pm
Geo. wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:31 pm
hobbo wrote:
Thu 28 Dec, 2017 4:32 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 28 Dec, 2017 1:49 pm
Would not surprise me if we have a 1st innings box set lead...

Nice one Garry..
Hey mate what's the score ?

My TV's on the blink !
How did the Poms finish up..Did they manage to destroy Australia's batting....hard to get signal here in Whakatane...
The Poms fought hard Geo they really did , but due to a garbage MCG wicket a draw was a fitting result !
Those coin operated TV's in Whakatane are crap aren't they !

Maybe try a 2 star motel next time :D
You should proud of your hard earned draw , Poms could of turned their toes up

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Post by hobbo » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:36 pm

happy tiger wrote:
Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:07 pm
hobbo wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 9:35 pm
Geo. wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:31 pm
hobbo wrote:
Thu 28 Dec, 2017 4:32 pm


Hey mate what's the score ?

My TV's on the blink !
How did the Poms finish up..Did they manage to destroy Australia's batting....hard to get signal here in Whakatane...
The Poms fought hard Geo they really did , but due to a garbage MCG wicket a draw was a fitting result !
Those coin operated TV's in Whakatane are crap aren't they !

Maybe try a 2 star motel next time :D
You should proud of your hard earned draw , Poms could of turned their toes up
I am proud . But even you would've made a century on that wicket :lol:
We need mongrel ..
No more plodders !

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Post by supercoach » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 10:53 pm

hobbo wrote:
Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:36 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:07 pm
hobbo wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 9:35 pm
Geo. wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:31 pm


How did the Poms finish up..Did they manage to destroy Australia's batting....hard to get signal here in Whakatane...
The Poms fought hard Geo they really did , but due to a garbage MCG wicket a draw was a fitting result !
Those coin operated TV's in Whakatane are crap aren't they !

Maybe try a 2 star motel next time :D
You should proud of your hard earned draw , Poms could of turned their toes up
I am proud . But even you would've made a century on that wicket :lol:
It was which a slug of a wicket, 90% of batsmen today would have bored themselves out long before they got near a hundred. That’s why Smith,Warner and Cook all got runs, they are both experienced but more importantly incredibly mentally tough, unlike most batsmen running around in the ashes

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Post by happy tiger » Sun 31 Dec, 2017 11:12 pm

hobbo wrote:
Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:36 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Sun 31 Dec, 2017 4:07 pm
hobbo wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 9:35 pm
Geo. wrote:
Sat 30 Dec, 2017 7:31 pm


How did the Poms finish up..Did they manage to destroy Australia's batting....hard to get signal here in Whakatane...
The Poms fought hard Geo they really did , but due to a garbage MCG wicket a draw was a fitting result !
Those coin operated TV's in Whakatane are crap aren't they !

Maybe try a 2 star motel next time :D
You should proud of your hard earned draw , Poms could of turned their toes up
I am proud . But even you would've made a century on that wicket :lol:
Finally you are recognizing my talent :D

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Post by Tigerdon » Mon 01 Jan, 2018 8:46 am

Looking forward to the NY Test . Sydney mostly produces a pitch that has a little bit for everyone . I wonder with all the complains against the Melbourne one if they leave a bit more grass on it.
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