Cricket Season Thread

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Re: Cricket Season Thread

Post by Marshall_magic » Thu 07 Oct, 2010 9:33 pm

Jazza wrote: If it was up to me I would of drastically changed the order about a year ago, although I'm not expecting many to agree:

1. Katich
2. Hughes
3. Clarke
4. Watson
5. Ponting
6. Smith/Bailey
7. Haddin
8. Johnson
9. Hauritz
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Bollinger
Not a fan of the batting line up. I would leave Ponting at 3, he's been so good there for so long, why change it. I would also leave Watson at the top where he is doing very well.

1 Watson
2 Katich
3 Ponting
4 Clarke
5 Ferguson
6 Smith
7 Haddin/Paine
8 Johnson
9 Hauritz
10 Hilfenhaus
11 Bollinger


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Post by citizen cub » Fri 08 Oct, 2010 11:35 am

Jazza wrote:
citizen cub wrote:Interesting point about Bailey, he's been scoring a lot of runs for Tassy over the past few seasons and I'm glad somebody mentioned his name, I don't know whether the selectors will though. Personally, I think he's a better batsmen than Smith but it really depends on whether the selectors want a second spinner or another batsmen.

Either way, I think both could do better than North and Smith's leggies are definitely going to worry the batsmen more so than North's honest offies. I feel a little sorry for North, because he was dominating at state level for a long time but because of the personnel the Australian team had for such a long time, didn't get a look in until he was 30, unfortunately another short term player, same goes with Hussey.
Bailey did go to NZ for the ODI series earlier in the year but he didnt play.

I think Smith is favoured and then it may be a battle between Ferguson, Khawaja and Bailey as the next in line in the middle order. White may even be a chance as well or they may shift one of the openers down to bring Hughes in.

As Ferguson has scored runs at ODI, he looks like he has the edge, especially when Andrew Hilditch talks about him.

But I agree that Hussey and North are short term players, the more we select these guys to debut at 30+ the longer we are going to be in transition for. We have Katich, Hussey and Ponting at 35, Haddin at 32 and North at 31. I heard that Dave Hussey still has ambitions for the Test side and he is 33.

I think the reason why we were so successful for so long is that we didnt have a real transition period throughout the 90s. We went through a complete transition in the 80s with the likes of S Waugh, Boon, Jones, G Marsh, Healy, M Hughes, and Reid all debuting close together but a lot of those guys were slowly phased out and replaced by a younger generation with the likes of Hayden, Langer, Martyn, McGrath, Warne, Slater, Reiffel, Fleming, Ponting and Gillespie who all debuted between 1992 and 1995 under the age of 25.

We have seen a lot more players debut at around 30 throughout this period.


I agree with your first point, Smith has been talked up for test cricket and I'd be very suprised if he doesn't play within the next 12 months, Khawaja, Ferguson and Bailey are all chances but you'd have to favour Smith at this stage, White will never play for Australia in tests again, UNLESS they want a batsmen, even then, he'd still be a small chance, they would never pick him as a spinner after the filth he served up in India a couple of years ago, I probably bowl better leggies than him.


Although Haddin debuted very late, he fully deserved his spot as he'd been touted as Gilchrist's successor for years and had been consistently performing at a high standard at state level, at 33, I still think he's got a few more years left in him. Katich also came back into the picture very late in his career at 32, but has since proven to be one of better batsmen and is still performing at a high level, even at 35. But it's obvious to me for a couple of seasons now that Ponting and Hussey are past it, Ponting's footwork and movement on the crease is nowhere near as good as it was 4-5 years ago, he is also not timing the ball nearly as good as he was 4-5 years. Same thing with Hussey.

Totally agree with the point about transition, we've been in transition for the better part of 4 years now and we seem to keep debuting blokes at 30 when what we really need to do is breed players in their early 20's so that they are players for the long term, instead of debuting blokes in their 30's and only getting a couple of good seasons out of them before they hang up the boots.

It's not just debuting North and Hussey in their 30's, what about Ryan Harris? Although he bowled really well against the Paki's in the ODI's and had a nice start to his test career against NZ, how long will he last? You know Glenn Mcgrath and Dennis Lillee are the ONLY Aussie fast bowlers to play past the age of 33? Harris is another example of a player who will not last and has been placed in the team for the SHORT term.
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Post by Peaches » Fri 08 Oct, 2010 10:39 pm

I can't believe the flack Ponting gets. Compared to every other captain in the modern era, I would have Ponting. His tactical nouse wasn't as strong as that of Shane Warne, but I don't think anyone was even close to him. Waugh was the greatest following other greats like Taylor and Border. Anyone who had the job after Waugh was going to struggle to maintain such a high class. Ponting I think will retire if he doesn't have his best Ashes series individually. Clarke is ready to go if given an opportunity.

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Post by tig_prmz » Sat 09 Oct, 2010 3:57 pm

Woah! who is Peter George? Never heard of him :? lol
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
Next: Liddle, MCK, Felise, MWZ, Thompson, Rochow, Gamble

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Post by magpie mania » Sat 09 Oct, 2010 4:15 pm

tig_prmz wrote:woah! Who is peter george? Never heard of him :? Lol

23 year old south australian pace bowler.


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Post by Jazza » Sat 09 Oct, 2010 9:49 pm

magpie mania wrote:
tig_prmz wrote:woah! Who is peter george? Never heard of him :? Lol

23 year old south australian pace bowler.
Nearly 7 ft tall, bowls fast medium. Line and length bowler, got a pretty good record to start his Shield career.
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Post by Geo. » Sat 09 Oct, 2010 10:26 pm

Honours even at the end of day 1 second test...

289 for 5

North 43no
Paine a couple...

Ponting was dudded again by Billy....made an effortless 70..

Hopefully they can push to around 450 and the put the screws on the Indians.....
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..

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Post by alien » Sun 10 Oct, 2010 7:53 pm

Jazza wrote:
2-1 to Australia.
I think so too.

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Post by tig_prmz » Sun 10 Oct, 2010 7:55 pm

final score: 478

Awesome innings from North.
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
Next: Liddle, MCK, Felise, MWZ, Thompson, Rochow, Gamble

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Post by Bazzinator » Sun 10 Oct, 2010 10:19 pm

alien wrote:
Jazza wrote:
2-1 to Australia.
I think so too.
too bad its only a 2 test series

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Post by Jazza » Sun 10 Oct, 2010 11:00 pm

Bazzinator wrote:
alien wrote:
Jazza wrote:
2-1 to Australia.
I think so too.
too bad its only a 2 test series
I didnt know the Ashes were a 2 Test series ;)

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Post by Bazzinator » Sun 10 Oct, 2010 11:04 pm

Jazza wrote:
I didnt know the Ashes were a 2 Test series ;)

:lol:
sorry thought we were talkin about the current series in india

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Post by Geo. » Sun 10 Oct, 2010 11:16 pm

What no North is useless...

Ponting doesn't use Hauritz properly....Oh only Day 2...bah

Well done the little Master...14000 test runs and counting.... :master: Sachin...

A true master to watch....Now fire up Hilfy n Mitch and get him out!!!!!!
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Post by Jazza » Mon 11 Oct, 2010 3:49 pm

Looks like NSW have produced another good young batsman with 18 year old Maddinson scoring a quick century on his Shield debut to go with his fifty on his ODD debut.

Mind you they are playing South Australia who have a very ordinary attack.
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Post by Jazza » Tue 12 Oct, 2010 12:34 am

Looks like Vijay is the new Laxman :brick:
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Post by tig_prmz » Tue 12 Oct, 2010 4:55 pm

Wowww!! what an innings by the Little Master:

"If cricket was a religion, Sachin would be God" -- Classic :)
My Round 1 Team 2018

1. lolo 2. noffa 3. suli 4. milne 5. fonua
6. reynolds 7. brooks
8. packer 9. ET 10. Twal
11. McQuen 12. Lawrence 13. Eiso
14. Matulino 15. McIllwrick 16. Sue 17. Aloiai
18. Marsters 19. Benji 20. Grant 21. K Naiqama
Next: Liddle, MCK, Felise, MWZ, Thompson, Rochow, Gamble

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Post by Leroy The Tigers Fan » Tue 12 Oct, 2010 5:01 pm

Hauritz finally gets on and gets wickets!.

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Post by Jazza » Tue 12 Oct, 2010 6:05 pm

Good fightback by the Aussies, back on level pegging again.

Its going a lot like Mohali, I think it may be a draw though.
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