Blame Taylor if you want, but remember.....

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Re: Blame Taylor if you want, but remember.....

Post by Eddie » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 12:49 am

I dont have such a problem with that play. There were far, far worse over the 80 minutes in my book.

We were 2 behind with 3 to play. If it comes off everyone is saying what a play. We only have max 1 set after that so you need a hail mary.

Its the rubbish options and pushed passes when the game is in the balance or worse were in front is what kills us.


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Post by NT Tiger » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 5:23 am

Eddie wrote:Its the rubbish options and pushed passes when the game is in the balance or worse were in front is what kills us.
Precisely. Its like, every play is going to be a winner. Maybe we need a bit of good old JT ball to settle things.
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Post by stevetiger » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 6:54 am

Mighty Tiger wrote:I'm sick of the excuses, JT is meant to coach this team and the buck stops with him.
Yep. Taylor needs to get us performing. No more excuses for the guy.

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Post by coopy » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 7:02 am

Yesterday I thought we played ok. I think there are several key reasons we lost.

1 - Forward depth. When we lost Jesse and then Woodsy we were in trouble. Our bench cannot cope with that and our team structure suffers.

2 - Team selections. With Milone playing centre we tended not to use that side of the field and were a lot more predictable.

3 - Discipline. I would like to see a stat but we must be the most penalised side in the comp. it's hard to win when you're on the backfoot

4 - Halves. I think Moses is well on his way to fulfilling his potential but Brooks has plateaued. You judge a player after 50 games and this is about as good as it gets for him. He gets overawed by the task at hand and takes very poor options. While he think he is a first grade player, he needs to leave WT and play his preferred opportunistic style next to a dominant half who guides the team around the park.

I think JT needs to respond and quickly (for his own sake).

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Post by foreveratiger » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 7:56 am

The buck stops with JT he controls the squad and the players. Yeah sure his not the one missing tackles, giving away penalties etc...but his team selection and bench rotation is appalling.

It is clear as daylight well to me anyway that he hasn't got the respect of the squad, they don't bust a gut for him cause they know they will get selected the following week anyway.

Normality is slowly coming into place at Tigers headquarters, we were favourites for the spoon and we are playing like a spoon challenging side.
I'm not surprised one bit.
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Post by larrycorowa » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 8:23 am

I knew we were in trouble when Farah started skipping across field. We did not play direct enough. That is why our outside backs kept running out of space and had their time shut down. Today was worst example. Over the past few weeks Farah has become increasingly dominant which has coincided with us looking worse and worse.

That said our halves played really dumb, weak footy and took soft options all day. It's not nyc, you can't attack your way out of a hole, you have to grind and build pressure.

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Post by Pawsandclaws » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 8:29 am

Were you watching the same game as me? Moses was the best half out there and provided plenty of chances down the right hand side. Kev isn't up to it and I can only think of James Roberts in our right centre position.

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Post by Tiger Gaz » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 8:42 am

I am no Taylor fan, but what he said in the press conference is true; we are not tough enough. In the early rounds the forwards were running hard from deeper run ups, now they are back to their flat style. Newcastle out muscled our forwards today.

To run hard you need good, reliable and early ball from the ruck; make this change and the team will improve.

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 9:09 am

Poor old Taylor is on a hiding to nothing. They've stopped putting in for him, if they ever even did. He'll be lucky to see round 10 at the rate we're going.

Bring in an axe wielder like Cleary, and watch sphincters tighten.
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Post by Pawsandclaws » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 9:59 am

Wasn't it always the case JT would be judged on his first six games?

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 10:22 am

We're a coach killing club, that's for sure.
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Post by cqtiger » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 10:53 am

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Post by Chris » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 11:00 am

Has JT lost the dressing room? Thats the big question.

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Post by diedpretty » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 11:29 am

Eddie wrote:Your right,,

Our first 2 games even though we played flashy football there were some really good Charges to set up our playes

It was Woods followed by Grant followed by Sue running really hard and tough.

We were earning the right to play flashy football by getting over the advantage line.
We also had quick service from dummy half - to be honest the best we have looked was when we had Littlejohn at half and Cherrington at hooker with Moses running the show.

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Post by cktiger » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 11:47 am

diedpretty wrote:
Eddie wrote:Your right,,

Our first 2 games even though we played flashy football there were some really good Charges to set up our playes

It was Woods followed by Grant followed by Sue running really hard and tough.

We were earning the right to play flashy football by getting over the advantage line.
We also had quick service from dummy half - to be honest the best we have looked was when we had Littlejohn at half and Cherrington at hooker with Moses running the show.
Think you have selective memory loss.
As soon as Cherrington came on in the first game we went backwards - same again in the second game.
Oddly enough in both those games we went better with Halatau at hooker.
Cherrington is not ready yet - and we already have too many others in the team playing in the same boat.

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Post by BalmainBoysNeverCry » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 11:49 am

Not having Sue for a massive part of the game didn't help, one of the shinning lights against the sharks and would of helped a lot against knights.

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Post by supercoach » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 12:03 pm

Chris wrote:Has JT lost the dressing room? Thats the big question.
Every coach we get seems to loose the dressing room,,,,,maybe we have to look at the people in the dressing room

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Post by foreveratiger » Mon 11 Apr, 2016 12:07 pm

cktiger wrote:
diedpretty wrote:
Eddie wrote:Your right,,

Our first 2 games even though we played flashy football there were some really good Charges to set up our playes

It was Woods followed by Grant followed by Sue running really hard and tough.

We were earning the right to play flashy football by getting over the advantage line.
We also had quick service from dummy half - to be honest the best we have looked was when we had Littlejohn at half and Cherrington at hooker with Moses running the show.
Think you have selective memory loss.
As soon as Cherrington came on in the first game we went backwards - same again in the second game.
Oddly enough in both those games we went better with Halatau at hooker.
Cherrington is not ready yet - and we already have too many others in the team playing in the same boat.
Yeah i have to agree....all the points were scored in the 1st half when Cherrington wasn't on the field , Cherrington hasn't done anything yet .
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