Tigers look to stop Penrith offloads

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Tigers look to stop Penrith offloads

Unread post by willow » Fri 01 Jul, 2016 10:52 pm

Tigers look to stop Penrith offloads
Fri 01 Jul, 2016, 12:30pm
By Chris Kennedy ‌, National Correspondent , NRL.com

There is one thing on the minds of Wests Tigers players heading into this weekend's battle of western Sydney: stop the offloads.

A resurgent Tigers almost overturned a 26-0 half-time deficit in Melbourne last week and the team are hoping to take that momentum into this weekend's battle with the Panthers – but they know Penrith are a very different proposition from the highly structured Storm.

Unafraid to play what they see with skilful and unpredictable players like Bryce Cartwright, Tyrone Peachey and boom rookie Nathan Cleary, Penrith are the type of team that can produce something unpredictable.

But the Tigers – themselves an unpredictable attacking force on their day – want to defend first and attack second rather than getting pulled into a chaotic try-fest.

Fullback James Tedesco told NRL.com his team may have put themselves under too much pressure early last week knowing what a tough road trip AAMI Park is, and would be out to avoid a slow start again at ANZ Stadium this weekend.

"They're very different, very unpredictable. They play a lot of second phase. A lot of offloads and what not, guys like Cartwright and Merrin, we have to be on our toes for them," Tedesco said of the Panthers.

"They like to play a lot of footy, Melbourne are a much more structured team than Penrith are, so we're going to have to be on our toes for the full 80 but if we can play like we did in that second half [against Melbourne], play our game then we'll go a long way to winning."

Halfback Luke Brooks said the main concern leading into Saturday was "stopping the offloads".

"Penrith are leading the comp in offloads. That's a big part of their attack and if they can stop that it will help us in defence. Stopping players like Cartwright who offloads a lot will help us," Brooks told NRL.com.

Brooks is correct – Penrith players have popped 210 offloads between them this season, led by Bryce Cartwright (39), Trent Merrin (29) and the now-injured Peta Hiku (20). They are a huge 28 offloads clear of the next most prolific club in that stat, South Sydney (182).

Vice-captain Chris Lawrence agreed stopping Penrith's second phase was a top priority.

"It's just trying to reduce the amount of time they have with the ball and their amount of attacking opportunities because they are so good with the ball," Lawrence said.

"They're the type of side, not too dissimilar to us in that they can put a lot of tries on in succession so we're going to have to try and not clock off at any stage during the game because they can really hurt you with their offloads and put back to back tries on very quickly."

Dene Halatau noted that Penrith haven't been well-beaten in any game this year, with most of their losses very close. Aside from a 24-6 loss in Melbourne in Round 13 the Panthers' worst loss was by just eight, in Canberra back in Round 1.

"[Penrith] do promote the ball well off second phase, they get plenty of offloads. Off the back of that they convert that into tries," Halatau said.

"They've been a team that can do that but can also grind out games. They haven't really been beaten well this year, they've been in almost every game they've played and the losses have been hard for them so that's probably given them a lot of confidence that they're thereabouts.

"They just need to convert that into some wins and string that together so they're probably going to come at us pretty hard. We don't want to get caught up in a try-scoring affair, I think we need to play solid and try and limit their opportunities."


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Unread post by happy tiger » Fri 01 Jul, 2016 11:50 pm

Bloody hell we are talking them up big time

First ET ,then Lawrence and now Halatau

Has Warren Ryan taken over as coach ??

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Unread post by Tigermama » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 12:02 am

I have to see it to believe it. We are terrible at stopping offloads.

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Unread post by strrretch » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 12:18 am

Tigermama wrote:I have to see it to believe it. We are terrible at stopping offloads.
Agreed, unfortunately this team are generally pretty good at not backing up their talk with actions

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Unread post by innsaneink » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 6:46 am

Tigermama wrote:I have to see it to believe it. We are terrible at stopping offloads.
When you're unable to put the ball carrier on the deck like we are.... Offloads abound I'm afraid

That said I think we are building well and will get the bickies today


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Unread post by Geo. » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 7:11 am

I think even Happy could have worked out you need to stop the Pamfer offloads...
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Unread post by GNR4LIFE » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 7:22 am

innsaneink wrote:
Tigermama wrote:I have to see it to believe it. We are terrible at stopping offloads.
When you're unable to put the ball carrier on the deck like we are.... Offloads abound I'm afraid

That said I think we are building well and will get the bickies today
I've been back and forth all week. First I was confident, then I wasn't, now I am again. It will be a high scoring game. We'll probably need to score 26+ to win.

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Unread post by GNR4LIFE » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 7:23 am

Also I wonder how much the Storm putting the Broncos to the sword last night says about us.

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Unread post by happy tiger » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 7:24 am

Geo. wrote:I think even Happy could have worked out you need to stop the Pamfer offloads...
No I think we need to beat them no matter what , we have benefitted from Penrith's offloads ...... ET and Pascoe for starters

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Unread post by Tigermama » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 8:45 am

innsaneink wrote:
Tigermama wrote:I have to see it to believe it. We are terrible at stopping offloads.
When you're unable to put the ball carrier on the deck like we are.... Offloads abound I'm afraid

That said I think we are building well and will get the bickies today
Hope so. I tipped them to win. ;)

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Unread post by happy tiger » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 2:30 pm

Hope the boys fire up big time and finally give us an 80 minute performance both in attack and defence with no respite for the opposition

I can't remember the last time we really put the cleaners through a side and held them to few

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Unread post by Love the WestsTigers » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 2:33 pm

I think we can go one better but having our own share of OFFloads

We missed Robbie last week, the game before i think he started the offloads and he did some in SOO too

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Unread post by jadtiger » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 9:15 pm

We didnt stop their offloads but the scrambling defence was excellent.

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Unread post by happy tiger » Sat 02 Jul, 2016 10:52 pm

jadtiger wrote:We didnt stop their offloads but the scrambling defence was excellent.
The good thing was that many of the offloads were low percentage efforts and we created turnovers due to that

Well done gents

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Unread post by Geo. » Sun 03 Jul, 2016 6:23 am

happy tiger wrote:
Geo. wrote:I think even Happy could have worked out you need to stop the Pamfer offloads...
No I think we need to beat them no matter what , we have benefitted from Penrith's offloads ...... ET and Pascoe for starters

You should have also went with the Naiqama defense..
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Unread post by happy tiger » Sun 03 Jul, 2016 9:32 am

Geo. wrote:
happy tiger wrote:
Geo. wrote:I think even Happy could have worked out you need to stop the Pamfer offloads...
No I think we need to beat them no matter what , we have benefitted from Penrith's offloads ...... ET and Pascoe for starters

You should have also went with the Naiqama defense..
I considered going with the Chewbacca defence :lol:

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Unread post by willow » Sun 03 Jul, 2016 9:35 am

Cartwright got away 8 or 10 offloads by himself last night which was scary. We scrambled well though.

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Unread post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 03 Jul, 2016 9:38 am

willow wrote:Cartwright got away 8 or 10 offloads by himself last night which was scary. We scrambled well though.
Great for my SC team though as he was my Captain.

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