Cleary's first night of mistakes

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Cleary's first night of mistakes

Unread post by king sirro » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:13 pm

I thought his positional changes to replace Teddy were poor. In s tough physical battle i would have left Suli at centre. Simple change could have been Mitch defends at fullback, Elijah at 5/8.

Another mistake was having Liddle and McIlwrick on at the same time. I think in the crucial stages we had

Aloiai
McIlwrick
Ava
Edwards
Liddle
Taylor

No way that pack could contain them.
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Unread post by Black'n'White » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:19 pm

I would say our last tackle abominations late in the game cost us more than any positional selections.

You would have to almost give a loss of close to 150m to Moses plus Brooks' kick out over the back, that changes field position set to set running drastically.

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Unread post by southerntiger » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:19 pm

Don't disagree with the idea of Mitch at fullback. But I can understand his thinking. Suli has played plenty of wing this year whereas Mitch has not played fullback in a long time.

Tough to criticise a coach in such circumstances.

I had no issued with Liddle and McIlwrick being on at the same time. The big boys were out of juice and Liddle and McIlwrick defend as well as anyone.

Gee Liddle impresses me.

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Unread post by maxxy86 » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:20 pm

I would have thought moses to 1 also...different dynamic might have been the go for him tonight chiming in from the back. I've been saying for ages for Taylor to play at 6.
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Unread post by WTDiehard » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:21 pm

Moses should have gone to fullback.....it was a tough night all round...prob never win a game like that when everything goes against you.

The bottom line is the sharks through the use of 2 pieces of foul play took out Woods and Teddy...we may have got the penalty but the only side disadvantaged tonight was the Tigers.

The sharks are a dirty grubby team....hope karma hits them hard moving forward.


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Unread post by willow » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:21 pm

I think it was hard to criticise him tonight given the injury concerns. If Nofo was fit you could have put him at fullback and shifted Suli to wing but Nofo was busted. Moses may have been another option and throw Liddle to 6 but Moses probably would have dropped every kick to spite the Tigers.

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Unread post by Milky » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:22 pm

Kevin played a bit of fullback under him at Penrith. He probably knew he would be comfortable there.

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Unread post by Mighty Tiger » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:22 pm

Mitch wasn't their tonight he didn't even go for the high balls, playing him at fullback wouldn't have done anything. Nofo was on 1 leg as well.

Re both Hookers on at the sametime he had no choice as the forwards were getting tanked and gassed, evidence by Ava coming off for MM. Having both on at the sametime didn't have a baring on the match anyway.

Think you're harsh on the judgement.

If anything he should have pulled Moses as he was atrocious tonight

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Unread post by Geo. » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:23 pm

Moses should have been hooked...then we would of had a better chance...
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Unread post by southerntiger » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:23 pm

Yep Mighty I would have hooked Moses at around the 50 min mark.

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Unread post by snowleopard » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:27 pm

Agree 100 % Willow

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Unread post by snowleopard » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:37 pm

Agree 100 % Willow

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Unread post by formerguest » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:39 pm

It was obvious that the hookers would have to be on the field together for a decent amount of time, so Moses to the back and Liddle to six would have been my choice, particularly as McIllwrick had been rested after about twenty five minutes. As they would have known for most, if not all of the halftime break that Tedesco was gone, I think the rotation should have been handled better, by making only one change, rather than shuffle a few players and weaken our middle.
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Unread post by supercoach » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:40 pm

you will loose 99 times out of 100 when you loose two of your best players before half time, have a winger on one leg and a no6 who didn't want to play

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Unread post by Fade To Black » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:46 pm

southerntiger wrote:
Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:19 pm
Don't disagree with the idea of Mitch at fullback. But I can understand his thinking. Suli has played plenty of wing this year whereas Mitch has not played fullback in a long time.

Tough to criticise a coach in such circumstances.

I had no issued with Liddle and McIlwrick being on at the same time. The big boys were out of juice and Liddle and McIlwrick defend as well as anyone.

Gee Liddle impresses me.
Liddle at hooker and McIlwrick in the back row was a decent enough choice given the circumstances. Nearly pulled off a famous win.
Cleary didn't do too much wrong, luck and a few lapses were the deciding factors, not coaching blunders.

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Unread post by TYGA » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 10:50 pm

No choice He could see what Moses was doing out there.
If Nofo wasn't injured he would have put Moses on the wing. He will be released whether we have Lolohea or not Cleary can coach won't let someone sabotage the team.

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Unread post by Tiger Watto » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 11:01 pm

Cronulla are one of the best with players on the ground with there niggle/wrestle etc... It was always going to be the battle of the forwards that won the match.

I would've played without a 6 to give my pigs a better chance, but it's easier in hindsight.

We had our chances
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Unread post by Fade To Black » Sat 29 Apr, 2017 11:01 pm

Find it strange that people were calling for ET at 6. JT got virtually crucified on here for trying that tactic. Albeit he started with ET as 6 more so than it being an injury-hit option.

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