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Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Sun 30 Apr, 2017 10:32 pm
by jrtiger
Was at the game sitting on the hill when Chad Townsend came screaming through to score the try that ultimately decided the match. Why did it happen? Kevin Naiqama, our fullback at the time was at first marker on the fifth tackle. Watch the footage. Refs & dodgy plays might have hurt us but that's just amateur hour. :deadhorse:

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Sun 30 Apr, 2017 11:03 pm
by Sabre
The blokes not a fullback. He was always going to struggle with it positionally. I'm prepared to cut him some slack for that one.

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Sun 30 Apr, 2017 11:09 pm
by Harvey
Think you'll find the number 6 floating around both the tries scored off kicks without attacking the ball with too much purpose.

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Sun 30 Apr, 2017 11:11 pm
by Geo.
Harvey wrote:
Sun 30 Apr, 2017 11:09 pm
Think you'll find the number 6 floating around both the tries scored off kicks without attacking the ball with too much purpose.
I believe the 6 was tuckered out from yelling at his team mates...

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 1:38 am
by Cosimo_Zaretti
So much going on with players trying to rotate makeshift positions. Naiqama was the third fullback of the night and was mostly pretty safe at the back. Everyone was trying to be everywhere, there were going to be mistakes.

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 4:19 am
by MG1962
Cosimo_Zaretti wrote:
Tue 02 May, 2017 1:38 am
So much going on with players trying to rotate makeshift positions. Naiqama was the third fullback of the night and was mostly pretty safe at the back. Everyone was trying to be everywhere, there were going to be mistakes.
Yes sometimes you have to give players a break. I really don't have a high opinion of Naiqama, but I am happy to give him a pass on that error. And I suppose would it be wrong of me to think any of the other backs might have realized he'd been trapped at marker and ghosted over to cover his position.

In other teams you will often see the 5/8 assume the role in an emergency.... oh wait :o

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 5:48 am
by innsaneink
It happens in most games, particulalry wingers or like the other night, fill in fb's

Wingers come in and make a tackle and get stuck at marker most good halves will head down their side next play

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 7:05 am
by tiga4eva
Moses began his nrl career as a fullback. He has little game awareness. We've dodged a bullet

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 7:34 am
by Geo.
Poor Nofoluma trying to hobble across made me sad and happy at the same time...

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 7:37 am
by Love the WestsTigers
He filled in at 1 but that doesnt mean he had the awareness to cover like one
Out of habit he was getting involved in the plays like he would playing his normal role instead of floating at the back.

I can excuse that error too but not where 4 people ran a block to the bomb but no one attempted to make a catch

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 7:44 am
by mike
Happy to cut him some slack on that one. He struggles positionally when playing on the wing, he was always going to struggle playing fullback. The real question is were was his mates to cover for him once he was at caught at marker?

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 8:23 am
by jadtiger
mike wrote:
Tue 02 May, 2017 7:44 am
Happy to cut him some slack on that one. He struggles positionally when playing on the wing, he was always going to struggle playing fullback. The real question is were was his mates to cover for him once he was at caught at marker?
He struggles defensively in any position i am still trying to forget his issues in the centres

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 8:45 am
by Russell
jrtiger wrote:
Sun 30 Apr, 2017 10:32 pm
Was at the game sitting on the hill when Chad Townsend came screaming through to score the try that ultimately decided the match. Why did it happen? Kevin Naiqama, our fullback at the time was at first marker on the fifth tackle. Watch the footage. Refs & dodgy plays might have hurt us but that's just amateur hour. :deadhorse:
I think you are being more than harsh on this occasion.

He would have been at marker / in the line to give some of the hard working forwards (down to 2 on the bench) a bit of a respite. Just filling in at full back, no one else filled in for him though.

That's alright though keep putting the boot in, you obviously have an agenda with Kev.

He is not the best player but he gives 100% every game - if you want to blame someone for losing the game, look no further than Moses.

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 8:59 am
by ryanda01
Russell wrote:
Tue 02 May, 2017 8:45 am
jrtiger wrote:
Sun 30 Apr, 2017 10:32 pm
Was at the game sitting on the hill when Chad Townsend came screaming through to score the try that ultimately decided the match. Why did it happen? Kevin Naiqama, our fullback at the time was at first marker on the fifth tackle. Watch the footage. Refs & dodgy plays might have hurt us but that's just amateur hour. :deadhorse:
I think you are being more than harsh on this occasion.

He would have been at marker / in the line to give some of the hard working forwards (down to 2 on the bench) a bit of a respite. Just filling in at full back, no one else filled in for him though.

That's alright though keep putting the boot in, you obviously have an agenda with Kev.

He is not the best player but he gives 100% every game - if you want to blame someone for losing the game, look no further than Moses.
This. Hard to cop a try on the chin but like Geo said, if Suli et al noticed Frozone was in at marker, then they should have dropped back. But being 2 down means even more scrambling. Take nothing away from Townsand who had the foresight to notice that the incumbant FB was up and kick through.

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 9:06 am
by hugh1954
I think Kevin needs some slack, i have been noticing last couple of games that he is trying his heart out in both attack and defence, especially taking high uncomfortable balls .

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 9:16 am
by tsjonathan
why wasn't moses moved to fullback? I've seen him play plenty of times at full back in u20s. he's good @ fullback

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 10:43 am
by jrtiger
Russell wrote:
Tue 02 May, 2017 8:45 am
jrtiger wrote:
Sun 30 Apr, 2017 10:32 pm
Was at the game sitting on the hill when Chad Townsend came screaming through to score the try that ultimately decided the match. Why did it happen? Kevin Naiqama, our fullback at the time was at first marker on the fifth tackle. Watch the footage. Refs & dodgy plays might have hurt us but that's just amateur hour. :deadhorse:
I think you are being more than harsh on this occasion.

He would have been at marker / in the line to give some of the hard working forwards (down to 2 on the bench) a bit of a respite. Just filling in at full back, no one else filled in for him though.

That's alright though keep putting the boot in, you obviously have an agenda with Kev.

He is not the best player but he gives 100% every game - if you want to blame someone for losing the game, look no further than Moses.
Just thought it was a play that definitely cost us... While he did well and was reasonably solid, this play and not attacking the ball when Graham got the ball to Holmes were both crucial plays and on both times Cronulla got the points.

I have no agenda with Kev mate just don't think he's a first grader. He just makes silly defensive decisions and while is a competent attacker, he lets in more tries than he scores.

Moses' attitude is horrible and his performance complemented that, it's just I felt as if while he played terribly, there was another thread to throw shade at him.

Re: Kevin Naiqama... Inexcusable

Posted: Tue 02 May, 2017 11:37 am
by jirskyr
Forget Naiqama, how does Wade Graham make is THROUGH our line to catch a bomb uncontested. If you want to let them go uncontested, so be it, so long as they are in front of you and your defensive line is set.

For Graham to go through the line then catch it is ridiculous.

As pointed out both those kicks landed in roughly the same area, around where Mitch Moses defends.

And as for Naiqama, if a FB gets caught at marker, the wingers and/or halves need to drop back to defend kicks. It's not as if Townsend put it deep into the in-goal to chase, he just popped it over the line.