Tedesco, incapable of passing

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Re: Tedesco, incapable of passing

Post by Chicken Faced Killa » Sun 11 Jun, 2017 7:19 pm

He just gives the impression he feels he needs to do it all himself and doesn't trust his team mates. Would be great to see him pass it out after he creates a little space and see what happens


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Post by southerntiger » Sun 11 Jun, 2017 7:22 pm

Marshall_magic wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:21 pm
He needs players running off him. There are times when he goes across the field and holes are opening up yet no one is trying to hit them. He will do a lot better in a better side.
Because no one knows what he is going to do and if he will even pass (he usually doesn't even when a player is in a better position).

Great player but Im not sure he will strengthen the Roosters.

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Post by jirskyr » Sun 11 Jun, 2017 7:30 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:50 pm
I dunno... With a pack dominating & going forward he had the room to shine at SunCorp for the blues... Easier to show what you can do with the defense on the back foot which he never gets with us
I agree but playing at your best at Origin level is only good for 3 games per year. There are some blokes that are Origin dynamos but can't produce that weekly in club football. Nobody players with an Origin-quality team at Origin speed except the odd finals game.

Tedesco is clearly a class player but he's not terrific value trying to lift a losing side, he's far better when he underplays his hand.

He can throw a mean intercept though, Roosters wingers waiting on him.

What I can't fathom is that Roosters side today, how they can possibly afford to add a $1M player to that backline.

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Post by TIGER » Sun 11 Jun, 2017 10:31 pm

He's getting tiresome to watch now, I wish he'd play more direct instead of jinking and running 39 meters cross field before fending off the same player 4 times then pivoting in a small circle before surrendering at their feet.

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Post by Telltails » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 8:28 am

Teddy will be loads better at the Roosters because its a team game and currently they have a significantly better team than us.


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Post by Russell » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 8:40 am

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:14 pm
Demps wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:03 pm
So many opportunities wasted because Tedesco is too selfisn to pass.

Noticed lots of chances an offload would work.
This guy tries too hard and is selfish when hes not needed.


Sure he's a good player but of late hes been detrimental to the team.
Yep there was so many people just lined up to score. Most of that rabble need a map to find the try line with any degree of regularity. If Teddy can't get through, god help the rest of them. They are mostly rubbish, and have been for a long time. A couple of examples is Kevvie and MCK . Useless in most games that they play in. And Sue must have had a family dinner this afternoon, as he went missing as usual.
Mate! Do you watch these games with a sleeping mask on or what?????

Demps is right he is a selfish so and so, especially this season. Yes we do have players that on their own wouldn't score from one week to another - what we are talking about here is going on your own instead of passing the ball to someone that is unmarked and a try a certainty. He now on most occasions now is running around like a chook with its head cut off and making no ground. Typical of that was one run against the Rorters last week where he made 40 metres (unfortunately it was all sideways) and avoided about 8 tackles but went nowhere. Other teams have started to work him out and his game is suffering.

Agree on Sue, but that is a different story.

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 12:55 pm

Russell wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 8:40 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:14 pm
Demps wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:03 pm
So many opportunities wasted because Tedesco is too selfisn to pass.

Noticed lots of chances an offload would work.
This guy tries too hard and is selfish when hes not needed.


Sure he's a good player but of late hes been detrimental to the team.
Yep there was so many people just lined up to score. Most of that rabble need a map to find the try line with any degree of regularity. If Teddy can't get through, god help the rest of them. They are mostly rubbish, and have been for a long time. A couple of examples is Kevvie and MCK . Useless in most games that they play in. And Sue must have had a family dinner this afternoon, as he went missing as usual.
Mate! Do you watch these games with a sleeping mask on or what?????

Demps is right he is a selfish so and so, especially this season. Yes we do have players that on their own wouldn't score from one week to another - what we are talking about here is going on your own instead of passing the ball to someone that is unmarked and a try a certainty. He now on most occasions now is running around like a chook with its head cut off and making no ground. Typical of that was one run against the Rorters last week where he made 40 metres (unfortunately it was all sideways) and avoided about 8 tackles but went nowhere. Other teams have started to work him out and his game is suffering.

Agree on Sue, but that is a different story.
No fullback is going to look great when he's the only real danger in the entire backline and no ones looking for him up the middle,
Things may be better when Brooks gets back, at least is more aware as to where Teddy is, and can create something with Tedesco.
Unfortunately we won't see the best of him until next season, but also unfortunately is the fact that it won't be with us.
It would have been good to see what Ivan could have done with him , when he is behind a hopefully better backline , and even more so , a much better backline

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Post by Nelson » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 1:16 pm

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 12:55 pm
Russell wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 8:40 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:14 pm
Demps wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:03 pm
So many opportunities wasted because Tedesco is too selfisn to pass.

Noticed lots of chances an offload would work.
This guy tries too hard and is selfish when hes not needed.


Sure he's a good player but of late hes been detrimental to the team.
Yep there was so many people just lined up to score. Most of that rabble need a map to find the try line with any degree of regularity. If Teddy can't get through, god help the rest of them. They are mostly rubbish, and have been for a long time. A couple of examples is Kevvie and MCK . Useless in most games that they play in. And Sue must have had a family dinner this afternoon, as he went missing as usual.
Mate! Do you watch these games with a sleeping mask on or what?????

Demps is right he is a selfish so and so, especially this season. Yes we do have players that on their own wouldn't score from one week to another - what we are talking about here is going on your own instead of passing the ball to someone that is unmarked and a try a certainty. He now on most occasions now is running around like a chook with its head cut off and making no ground. Typical of that was one run against the Rorters last week where he made 40 metres (unfortunately it was all sideways) and avoided about 8 tackles but went nowhere. Other teams have started to work him out and his game is suffering.

Agree on Sue, but that is a different story.
No fullback is going to look great when he's the only real danger in the entire backline and no ones looking for him up the middle,
Things may be better when Brooks gets back, at least is more aware as to where Teddy is, and can create something with Tedesco.
Unfortunately we won't see the best of him until next season, but also unfortunately is the fact that it won't be with us.
It would have been good to see what Ivan could have done with him , when he is behind a hopefully better backline , and even more so , a much better backline
What has any of that got to do with him not passing the ball?

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 1:20 pm

Nelson wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 1:16 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 12:55 pm
Russell wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 8:40 am
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Sun 11 Jun, 2017 6:14 pm


Yep there was so many people just lined up to score. Most of that rabble need a map to find the try line with any degree of regularity. If Teddy can't get through, god help the rest of them. They are mostly rubbish, and have been for a long time. A couple of examples is Kevvie and MCK . Useless in most games that they play in. And Sue must have had a family dinner this afternoon, as he went missing as usual.
Mate! Do you watch these games with a sleeping mask on or what?????

Demps is right he is a selfish so and so, especially this season. Yes we do have players that on their own wouldn't score from one week to another - what we are talking about here is going on your own instead of passing the ball to someone that is unmarked and a try a certainty. He now on most occasions now is running around like a chook with its head cut off and making no ground. Typical of that was one run against the Rorters last week where he made 40 metres (unfortunately it was all sideways) and avoided about 8 tackles but went nowhere. Other teams have started to work him out and his game is suffering.

Agree on Sue, but that is a different story.
No fullback is going to look great when he's the only real danger in the entire backline and no ones looking for him up the middle,
Things may be better when Brooks gets back, at least is more aware as to where Teddy is, and can create something with Tedesco.
Unfortunately we won't see the best of him until next season, but also unfortunately is the fact that it won't be with us.
It would have been good to see what Ivan could have done with him , when he is behind a hopefully better backline , and even more so , a much better backline
What has any of that got to do with him not passing the ball?
Already answered that question. Who to.
Youlsee what I mean next season, when he has first graders in his team,

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Post by Nelson » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 1:24 pm

goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 1:20 pm
Nelson wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 1:16 pm
goldcoast tiger wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 12:55 pm
Russell wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 8:40 am


Mate! Do you watch these games with a sleeping mask on or what?????

Demps is right he is a selfish so and so, especially this season. Yes we do have players that on their own wouldn't score from one week to another - what we are talking about here is going on your own instead of passing the ball to someone that is unmarked and a try a certainty. He now on most occasions now is running around like a chook with its head cut off and making no ground. Typical of that was one run against the Rorters last week where he made 40 metres (unfortunately it was all sideways) and avoided about 8 tackles but went nowhere. Other teams have started to work him out and his game is suffering.

Agree on Sue, but that is a different story.
No fullback is going to look great when he's the only real danger in the entire backline and no ones looking for him up the middle,
Things may be better when Brooks gets back, at least is more aware as to where Teddy is, and can create something with Tedesco.
Unfortunately we won't see the best of him until next season, but also unfortunately is the fact that it won't be with us.
It would have been good to see what Ivan could have done with him , when he is behind a hopefully better backline , and even more so , a much better backline
What has any of that got to do with him not passing the ball?
Already answered that question. Who to.
Youlsee what I mean next season, when he has first graders in his team,
The players in better positions than him...it's not under 10's, you don't just hog the ball because you're the star player.

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Post by goldcoast tiger » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 4:25 pm

For the second time,
I have answered it.
If there is no person that is a chance of breaking the line , as is the case in a lot of our games , it comes down to Tedesco, even though there is not much going on that would open up the defence to help him.
So he's left to try and make something out of nothing, yes he goes to far with it at times, but when the entire team is standing flat-footed , almost in a straight line with the defence up almost in our line, , it would be only something freakish from teddy that has a hope in hell of getting through.
When he has a decent team around him we will see the difference and he won't be the only player that the defence has to be up on.
Therefore he won't be getting the ball in almost impossible positions as much as he does here.
And the better players around him will take some of the heat off him, therefore , less Defence that can be concentrated on him at any one time, therefore no need for him to try and do it all himself
Did he overplay his hand in SOO, I don't think so!!!!!
The reason.....because everyone did their job.

I have a question for you now Nelson.
When has that been the case in this team. ????

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Post by cktiger » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:08 pm

Pretty sure I'm not the only one who was praying someone would pass it to Tedesco when we were anywhere near the Roosters goal line.
Seriously, he's the only attack we have at the moment.

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Post by Pawsandclaws » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:35 pm

cktiger wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:08 pm
Pretty sure I'm not the only one who was praying someone would pass it to Tedesco when we were anywhere near the Roosters goal line.
Seriously, he's the only attack we have at the moment.
Can't agree cktiger. Lolohea looked always likely but drifted out of the game perhaps because of fitness but also through lack of ball. Johns also made mention that Suli was the most likely but when did he get early ball? We must make better use of all our players.

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Post by Earl » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:46 pm

Lolohea/Nofo/Suli even Naiqama can score a try. I don't think the problem is just Tedesco. We aren't denting the line and then giving it to a player in space.

I think Suli looked much more likely than Tedesco to score on the weekend.

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Post by colmcd » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:49 pm

Pawsandclaws wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:35 pm
cktiger wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:08 pm
Pretty sure I'm not the only one who was praying someone would pass it to Tedesco when we were anywhere near the Roosters goal line.
Seriously, he's the only attack we have at the moment.
Can't agree cktiger. Lolohea looked always likely but drifted out of the game perhaps because of fitness but also through lack of ball. Johns also made mention that Suli was the most likely but when did he get early ball? We must make better use of all our players.
Yes, them and the rest of the team. Do you remember the Chris Lawrence try when he goes to the wing and walks over the line? Why? because everyone was watching Loki Taquiri move in on the centers. If you have Lolohea, teddy and Suli being your scoring options guess what is going to happen.... Those 3 will be heavily marked and we make Nr10 on the ladder (or nr15/16 if we are really bad).

We need plays, we need tactics, we need real scoring ideas and plans that get us across the line. If it is just PASS THE BALL TO X, it will fail. Either X is a superstar and it will occasionally work or X isn't a superstar and our attack will SUCK. But if X passes to Y and looks for Z in a gap but dummys to A instead because an opening appears then we get across the line.

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Post by Black'n'White » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 6:40 pm

cktiger wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:08 pm
Pretty sure I'm not the only one who was praying someone would pass it to Tedesco when we were anywhere near the Roosters goal line.
Seriously, he's the only attack we have at the moment.
you definitely arent alone, though I honestly promise you i was wishing for the exact opposite with every fibre of my being.

Pass it to Teddy on the line is an exercise in running 30m+ but making zero metres. I pray for the variation on a theme, the same shape that puts the ball in Teddys hands could be utilised to put other runners into space... then when they are unsure, then play the ace.

Go all in every hand, and you only end up being called out and your stack gone.

JLJ and our long term style of hookers feeding our pack just sets us up to be eaten by defences. Our hookers have always been service to format... pig, pig, pig, half, half, kicker... the spines we envy have closest pigs/centre set for hooker dumps but are working of a call first, playing through their halves for width. We play skinny, and with minimal touches our halves are under pressure to produce so we become entirely readable.

We need to play through our halves. Even early in the set, one settler to condense the forwards in the ruck, then let a half distribute. Back that with a team who knows there has to be a runner each side every time a half has a pass incoming so their is an automatic pass either side and we will be much more effective.

There is zero sense in being 10m out, 3 props hitting it up and knowing 90% of the time a half finally touches the ball and teddy is on the same side that he will be getting the ball. Thats under 9's crap.

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Post by Dingo » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 7:35 pm

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With any decent team Teddy will be outstanding. He never stops trying that is the important thing, we are on a hiding to nothing every game so must get used to it. Most of our decent players we let go of, got rid of or they walked. After another few years we may rate 10th.

*hicup* little too much Vat 69 Alf Stewart

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Post by Russell » Tue 13 Jun, 2017 7:43 pm

colmcd wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:49 pm
Pawsandclaws wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:35 pm
cktiger wrote:
Tue 13 Jun, 2017 5:08 pm
Pretty sure I'm not the only one who was praying someone would pass it to Tedesco when we were anywhere near the Roosters goal line.
Seriously, he's the only attack we have at the moment.
Can't agree cktiger. Lolohea looked always likely but drifted out of the game perhaps because of fitness but also through lack of ball. Johns also made mention that Suli was the most likely but when did he get early ball? We must make better use of all our players.
Yes, them and the rest of the team. Do you remember the Chris Lawrence try when he goes to the wing and walks over the line? Why? because everyone was watching Loki Taquiri move in on the centers. If you have Lolohea, teddy and Suli being your scoring options guess what is going to happen.... Those 3 will be heavily marked and we make Nr10 on the ladder (or nr15/16 if we are really bad).

We need plays, we need tactics, we need real scoring ideas and plans that get us across the line. If it is just PASS THE BALL TO X, it will fail. Either X is a superstar and it will occasionally work or X isn't a superstar and our attack will SUCK. But if X passes to Y and looks for Z in a gap but dummys to A instead because an opening appears then we get across the line.
Except if a player doesn't pass the ball.

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