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Unread post by Tigerstruck » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 4:48 pm

Surely the second last pass for the Sharks first try was forward, or am I just too biased towards the Tigers?
Commentators said that it was backwards and drifted forwards, but they never bag the refs for anything, and it was Bwaith commentating so I'm still not sure.
I know that the decision turned the game at the start, and considering we lost by 2, it was an important decision.
I just feel that we never get the 50/50 decisions in close games, or any games as a matter of fact. :brick:
Any other thoughts on the pass?


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Unread post by stryker » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 4:58 pm

Couple of meters forward. Those in the studio called it.

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Unread post by Yossarian » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 5:14 pm

Checkout Facebook. There is a meme doing the rounds showing how far forward it was.

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Unread post by marzie » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 5:24 pm

It was passed just behind the 10 and caught at the 5...

It's in every game I see 5-10 forward passes per game that aren't called. Hopeless touchies

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Unread post by Tigerstruck » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 5:29 pm

marzie wrote:
Sun 18 Jun, 2017 5:24 pm
It was passed just behind the 10 and caught at the 5...

It's in every game I see 5-10 forward passes per game that aren't called. Hopeless touchies
It's so true, the touchie was right in line with it last night, yet they didn't call it.


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Unread post by Geo. » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 6:11 pm

Newton's Law of inertia...Newton was a Sharkies fan...
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Geo nailed it...

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Unread post by Geo. » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 6:11 pm

Newton's Law of inertia...Newton was a Sharkies fan...
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Unread post by tigerfanatic » Sun 18 Jun, 2017 9:06 pm

marzie wrote:
Sun 18 Jun, 2017 5:24 pm
It was passed just behind the 10 and caught at the 5...

It's in every game I see 5-10 forward passes per game that aren't called. Hopeless touchies
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Unread post by VanillaThunder » Mon 19 Jun, 2017 2:49 am

Watch Gallen's reaction, he blows up big time and is turning around getting ready for the turnover. Everyone else knew it was forward, except for the people that actually mattered.

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Unread post by pHyR3 » Mon 19 Jun, 2017 3:39 am

marzie wrote:
Sun 18 Jun, 2017 5:24 pm
It was passed just behind the 10 and caught at the 5...

It's in every game I see 5-10 forward passes per game that aren't called. Hopeless touchies
the pass was definitely forward, but where it's passed from and caught doesn't matter. only if it's backwards out of the hands, floating forward is fine



(yes i know the video is union, but the rule is the same)
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Unread post by jirskyr » Mon 19 Jun, 2017 1:25 pm

pHyR3 wrote:
Mon 19 Jun, 2017 3:39 am
marzie wrote:
Sun 18 Jun, 2017 5:24 pm
It was passed just behind the 10 and caught at the 5...

It's in every game I see 5-10 forward passes per game that aren't called. Hopeless touchies
the pass was definitely forward, but where it's passed from and caught doesn't matter. only if it's backwards out of the hands, floating forward is fine



(yes i know the video is union, but the rule is the same)
Backwards out of the hands is not enough, not true. Some passes back out of the hands can still travel forwards relative to the passer. Passes are not ruled by the hands, they are ruled by relative motion. I would argue yesterday's game, Widdop threw that massive forward pass but he almost got a backwards motion from his hands.

The thing not illustrated in the video is if you are not moving forward rapidly, or indeed are moving sideways, then the relative motion of the football changes. May halves run across-field and slightly forwards, therefore they impart mostly sideways momentum onto the football. That's why Townsend's one looks so bad, because he isn't sprinting forwards, he has gone across and slightly straightened.

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Unread post by ricksen » Mon 19 Jun, 2017 6:48 pm

The thing is it didn't slightly float forwards due to momentum, he just threw it forwards. Townsend wasn't moving at any great speed whatsoever, Lee just overran it a bit (expecting a kick?).
You can clearly see it in the body position of the pic above.

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