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Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:21 pm
by king sirro
Can anyone enlighten me on what Ivan Cleary has done for this team season 2017?

Forget attracting players for next year, what has he done for this team this year?

Our defence has got worse. Players clearly have no idea what to do and when to do it.

A set of six starts in opposition territory and our plan is 4 one out hit ups....FOUR. Not 2 to set something up, but 4 tackles wasted one out hit ups in the opposition half.

Our 5/8 doesn't touch the ball all game.

Please someone help me relax by giving me some examples of what Cleary has brought to this team for season 2017.

Im sorry but i can not accept things like:
He needs an off season to implement his things..(please thats a cop out)
The squad is crap.....yes but Taylor had the same squad nearly make the 8 last year.

Its getting very worrying that Clearly cant coach because im not seeing anything at all that he has done for this team.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:40 pm
by southerntiger
Yep im struggling. We have gone from a poor squad that managed to jag a few good wins every now and then to a side that is a rabble.

I want to believe in Cleary because otherwise Im just about done.

I will give him a pre-season and to mid-next season before I write him off, but has certainly not improved the side one bit.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:43 pm
by innsaneink
I was banging on about this boring garbage last week but apparently I didn't watch the game

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:43 pm
by upthetigers
What does Brooksy do at training. His first short kick of the game again goes straight into a player and he persists with those useless midfield bombs. Drop the pretender to reserve grade he is bloody useless. The only reason we still have him is because no other club wanted him.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:44 pm
by Harvey
He is playing Taylorball. Where is the outrage now?

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:44 pm
by shakey4d
upthetigers wrote:
Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:43 pm
What does Brooksy do at training. His first short kick of the game again does straight into a player and he persists with those useless midfield bombs. Drop the pretender to reserve grade he's is bloody useless. The only reason we still have him is because no other club wanted him.
And promote Jack Littlejohn?...

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:45 pm
by king sirro
innsaneink wrote:
Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:43 pm
I was banging on about this boring garbage last week but apparently I didn't watch the game
No been happening for weeks. We spend 4 out of 6 tackles setting up for a nothing play then kick it into the legs of the opposition. Thats a wests tigers attacking set ala Clearly.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:45 pm
by 1/4 chicken,chips
Not Cleary fault ...this squad was built by Taylor .my only criticism is his selection of Kev m ...half the squad is t of first grade standard but Cleary has no option but to pick the same reserve graders week in week out .

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:46 pm
by sheer64
Brooks is so out of form he cant even run to the line without falling over!

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:46 pm
by Geo.
Umm..I started this 2 weeks ago and got howled down..so good luck Sirro..

It's the roster..

I don't think Cleary has done much with the current squad and left it to the assistants as he is concentrating on...'Next Year'

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:48 pm
by Snake
Well what a rabble and yes they certainly looked uncoached .

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:49 pm
by hobbo
Geo. wrote:
Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:46 pm
Umm..I started this 2 weeks ago and got howled down..so good luck Sirro..

It's the roster..

I don't think Cleary has done much with the current squad and left it to the assistants as he is concentrating on...'Next Year'
I thought Taylor Ball was bad ... This current crap is something else !

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:49 pm
by upthetigers
shakey4d wrote:
Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:44 pm
upthetigers wrote:
Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:43 pm
What does Brooksy do at training. His first short kick of the game again does straight into a player and he persists with those useless midfield bombs. Drop the pretender to reserve grade he's is bloody useless. The only reason we still have him is because no other club wanted him.
And promote Jack Littlejohn?...
I don't know what the answer is mate but we can't act like he is guaranteed a first grade spot. He is a dud.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:50 pm
by willow
We haven't got the cattle. Plain and simple.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:50 pm
by king sirro
1/4 chicken,chips wrote:
Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:45 pm
Not Cleary fault ...this squad was built by Taylor .my only criticism is his selection of Kev m ...half the squad is t of first grade standard but Cleary has no option but to pick the same reserve graders week in week out .
The biggest cop out post of the year. How can you explain your reasoning when Taylor got better results with this so called self built squad? So if the results were better with Taylor, whats your answer to the question of what has Cleary done for this team?

Clearly has sent us backwards.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:51 pm
by Earl
Sirro - with all due respect you also think ET is a dud.

In stating that geez we are ordinary. We need to score points somehow and we don't seem to have the players to do that.

I'm going to give IC though at least 3 year to get it right. Taylor deserved less because he made poor decisions after poor decisions. The only thing I can fault IC for right now is our on-field performances.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:51 pm
by Sco77y
How about that? Chopping and changing coaches hasn't worked.. What a surprise.

Re: Uncoached

Posted: Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:51 pm
by Harvey
1/4 chicken,chips wrote:
Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:45 pm
Not Cleary fault ...this squad was built by Taylor .my only criticism is his selection of Kev m ...half the squad is t of first grade standard but Cleary has no option but to pick the same reserve graders week in week out .
These reserve graders were playing better 10 weeks ago, and apart from Canberra were competing. The last few weeks have been garbage. Keep blaming JT when we take a big step towards the spoon next week when we play a side full of ordinary players that compete, have a game plan and 2 halves that are on next to no money, but can steer the side around