AN EMOTIONAL Benji Marshall has opened up on his rollercoaster rugby league career & the return “home” to Wests Tigers

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Re: AN EMOTIONAL Benji Marshall has opened up on his rollercoaster rugby league career & the return “home” to Wests Tig

Unread post by Harvey » Fri 17 Nov, 2017 4:59 pm

The NRL should replicate American sports, where if a member of the crowd catches the ball, they get to keep it.
If that was the rule, Benji organising our team could bring additional fans through the gate, hoping that they would leave with a souvenir


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Unread post by tigerap » Fri 17 Nov, 2017 9:31 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 6:42 pm
I think he'll be much more influencial off the field than on it, which is by no means a bad thing. To see a player so openly passionate about the club, who is a club legend is the tonic we need ATM. A fitting change from the imposter of a captain who just left.
Ah good ole #2040....he will rue 2017.... in the years to come.. I just hope the door for him to the WT is permanently shut

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Unread post by wt00 » Fri 17 Nov, 2017 9:49 pm

Benji Marshall isn't rejoining the Wests Tigers just to play a bit-part role and nurture young playmaker Luke Brooks.

Instead, the new Tigers recruit is eyeing a starting role in the halves with coach Ivan Cleary ready to give Marshall every chance to secure either the number six or seven jersey.

"In his own words, he’s looking to help those guys, but he wants to play there too," Cleary told NRL.com.

"I don’t know how it all pans out in the end but he’s prepared to play that role.

"He thinks he’s still good enough to play, so if he’s the best option, then he’s the best option. But he’s also got to understand that we’ve invested a fair bit in our halves and we want to give them the best opportunity as well.

"So for me, it’s a really good situation to have."

The 2005 Premiership winner will join the Tigers for pre-season training next Friday.

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Unread post by supercoach » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 8:16 am

happy tiger wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 2:15 pm
yeti wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 2:09 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 12:56 pm
Sorry I can't get that picture on that fateful Saturday with Benji in his Auckland Blues jersey and his lacklustre performances in 2012 and 2013

It might be all warm ,cuddly and feel good , but it makes no rugby league sense to me
It makes perfect sense to me: An able back up half, great experience helping out the younger guys, an excellent football brain - and probably not a hell of a lot of coin tied up.
What doesn't make sense?
It's 2017 not 2005

His tank is empty and we wasted some salary cap on being feel good ,nicey nice

Fine put him on the coaching staff if you want , but don't waste valuable salary space on a has been

We can't compete as it is with the other teams and we go and put ourselves further behind the eight ball

Pretty much the way I see it to. Great marketing tool, probably a good mentor and football brain, but as a player he has about 30 good minutes a month in him at best and his cap space probably could have gone elsewhere. As for being on modest money, I think most people would be very surprised at what sort of money we are paying him.

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Unread post by wt00 » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 9:13 am

One things for sure, when he's at training Friday there will be plenty of TV cameras at training...
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Unread post by innsaneink » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 10:07 am

old man tiger wrote:
Thu 16 Nov, 2017 12:15 pm
Bring on the cheese. My guilty confession is that I didn't go to a single game last year, despite having a ticketed membership (First time since 2003 I haven't gone once.)

I know it's overly emotional to some, but things like this will matter to a lot of fans. The PR battle is important in terms of attracting higher caliber players, last year we were smashed by the media, but if they sense a more cohesive fan base, without any major divisive issues at the club, then that will turn around.
Same.
I only used two of a four game pkg.

On Marshall...i think hes matured a bit on field....coming of the bench, lesstime i think has seen him less rocks ...a bit more stable and occasional diamond's
That said he was under less pressure at the bronx... time will tell.
Bring him off the bench if our pigs are coping with 3 on the sideline

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Unread post by GNR4LIFE » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 10:21 am

What are people's thoughts on playing him at dummy half?

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Unread post by Earl » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 10:33 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sat 18 Nov, 2017 10:21 am
What are people's thoughts on playing him at dummy half?
He can play there for a bit. I view Benji as either in ISP or off the bench as a utility player at the start of the season but he will put pressure on Reynolds and Brooks.

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Unread post by Eddie » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 12:13 pm

supercoach wrote:
Sat 18 Nov, 2017 8:16 am
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 2:15 pm
yeti wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 2:09 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 12:56 pm
Sorry I can't get that picture on that fateful Saturday with Benji in his Auckland Blues jersey and his lacklustre performances in 2012 and 2013

It might be all warm ,cuddly and feel good , but it makes no rugby league sense to me
It makes perfect sense to me: An able back up half, great experience helping out the younger guys, an excellent football brain - and probably not a hell of a lot of coin tied up.
What doesn't make sense?
It's 2017 not 2005

His tank is empty and we wasted some salary cap on being feel good ,nicey nice

Fine put him on the coaching staff if you want , but don't waste valuable salary space on a has been

We can't compete as it is with the other teams and we go and put ourselves further behind the eight ball

Pretty much the way I see it to. Great marketing tool, probably a good mentor and football brain, but as a player he has about 30 good minutes a month in him at best and his cap space probably could have gone elsewhere. As for being on modest money, I think most people would be very surprised at what sort of money we are paying him.
Further beinhd the 8 ball would be playing someone like Littlejohn in the halves for mine.

We saw how that worked last year and it wasn't pretty.

This is called smart coaching, building depth in key positions.

If it was good enough for Brisbane last year I fail to see how it isn't good enough for us.

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Unread post by bp tiger » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 12:53 pm

Harvey wrote:
Fri 17 Nov, 2017 4:59 pm
The NRL should replicate American sports, where if a member of the crowd catches the ball, they get to keep it.
If that was the rule, Benji organising our team could bring additional fans through the gate, hoping that they would leave with a souvenir
great idea, but do u really think the greedy players like ( smith, cronk and co ) would let the NRL waste money on balls when they could get there hands on it. lol

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Unread post by strrretch » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 1:31 pm

Is weird how things turn out sometimes. Would not surprise me if he ends up playing a major role . The pressure on Brooks could be good for him and the side. Hard to think of a better 2nd halves option

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Unread post by tig_prmz » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 1:53 pm

lol how used to these headlines are we.

think it's a good signing but for once just wish he'd leave some talking for on the field.
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Unread post by bp tiger » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 2:36 pm

strrretch wrote:
Sat 18 Nov, 2017 1:31 pm
Is weird how things turn out sometimes. Would not surprise me if he ends up playing a major role . The pressure on Brooks could be good for him and the side. Hard to think of a better 2nd halves option
smokey i think could be gamble, think he could be a good signing.

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Unread post by Tacky » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 3:32 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sat 18 Nov, 2017 10:21 am
What are people's thoughts on playing him at dummy half?
Don't think his body would be able to keep up with that much defensive work. I'd rather Reynolds at 9 and Benji at 6 if we were to swap them around.
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Unread post by happy tiger » Sat 18 Nov, 2017 7:46 pm

supercoach wrote:
Sat 18 Nov, 2017 8:16 am
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 2:15 pm
yeti wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 2:09 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Tue 14 Nov, 2017 12:56 pm
Sorry I can't get that picture on that fateful Saturday with Benji in his Auckland Blues jersey and his lacklustre performances in 2012 and 2013

It might be all warm ,cuddly and feel good , but it makes no rugby league sense to me
It makes perfect sense to me: An able back up half, great experience helping out the younger guys, an excellent football brain - and probably not a hell of a lot of coin tied up.
What doesn't make sense?
It's 2017 not 2005

His tank is empty and we wasted some salary cap on being feel good ,nicey nice

Fine put him on the coaching staff if you want , but don't waste valuable salary space on a has been

We can't compete as it is with the other teams and we go and put ourselves further behind the eight ball

Pretty much the way I see it to. Great marketing tool, probably a good mentor and football brain, but as a player he has about 30 good minutes a month in him at best and his cap space probably could have gone elsewhere. As for being on modest money, I think most people would be very surprised at what sort of money we are paying him.
Finally some common sense , of course its Supercoach

Benji was done and dusted the minute he lost that yard of pace of the mark that made him special

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Unread post by Geo. » Fri 24 Nov, 2017 7:25 pm

O oh Happy...Benji is home..
Marshall: "This is home to me"

Michael Chammas, Chief Reporter, NRL.com

Fri 24th November, 06:30PM
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Benji2
BENJI Marshall knows what people think of him.

“They think I’m cocky. They think I’m arrogant,” he told NRL.com on his first day of training back with the Wests Tigers on Thursday.

“They think I’m not good for culture of teams.”

It’s for this reason Marshall orchestrated his return on his own. This has been almost two years in the making. Two years since he picked up the phone and began plotting his homecoming.

Marshall knew it couldn’t be done through a manager - that would send the wrong message. It had to be about what he could do for the Tigers, not the other way around.

“People have a pre-conceived idea of what sort of person I am,” Marshall said.

“Because I play with confidence, people think I’m arrogant. Because I play so out there, people think that’s arrogance. The way I come across with the confidence, people mistake that. The common thing I hear going to new clubs is ‘oh, man I thought you were so different to what you are’. I hear it at every club I go to.

“People are genuinely surprised. That spins me out. The Tigers said this wouldn’t have happened if I didn’t reach out. They didn’t know me. I think they might have judged me before they met me. After meeting them, I think they were a bit shocked as to how I was coming across because of what they thought.”

Marshall called Cleary not long after he joined the club. The Tigers entertained the idea of bringing him across from the Broncos mid-season as a replacement for Mitchell Moses, but Wayne Bennett didn’t want to release him.

The Kiwi veteran didn’t give up. He organised to have a coffee with Cleary while the Broncos were in Sydney during the season.

It’s then he outlined how he could contribute to the change Cleary was implementing. That despite a perception he may have been toxic for team culture, he in fact could provide the very thing the coach wanted from his senior players.





Marshall spoke about leadership and culture. He spoke about the guidance he could provide the young halves and the advice he could pass down.

“Those are my biggest assets. I came up with a plan of where I would fit into the team in terms of those things,” Marshall said.

“But I also made it pretty clear that I don’t just want to be here just for that.”

It’s what the Tigers wanted to hear. They didn’t want a player whose main concern was about coming home to restore his own legacy and build a life after football.

Yes, the Tigers realised the off-field potential his signing would have on the organisation, but it was always about football.

Marshall was given no guarantees. That’s the way he wanted it.

But he did make a guarantee of his own, vowing to do everything he could to convince the coach he was worth a spot in his side.

“I said ‘mate, at the end of the day you’re the coach and I just want to be part of the team,” he said.

“I said ‘mate, at the end of the day you’re the coach and I just want to be part of the team."
“I don’t care where that is. If it’s in the 17 it is, and if it’s not, then I’ll force my way in there somewhere. Ivan was pretty clear in the first meeting. He told me that he’d promised Josh [Reynolds] and Brooksy [Luke Brooks] that they would be the halves to start the season. I have no problems with that. I also have no problems playing reserve grade. I did that in Brisbane and actually enjoyed it. If it happens here, it happens.

“There were probably times in my career when I was here before that I needed to do that and go down to reserve grade to find a bit of confidence. If Ivan feels like I need to be there and don’t deserve to be in the 17 then that’s fine. But I’m going to push him to pick me.”

Bennett did for Marshall what very few before managed to do. He was honest.

He told Marshall what he needed to hear, not what he wanted to hear.
Marshall knows there were times throughout his time at the Tigers when that wasn’t the case.

“For other people, I don’t think there was a lot of honesty back then,” Marshall said.

“I thought I was going better than what I was but no one here was telling me that I wasn’t. Wayne was great for me.

“He encouraged me to throw flick passes and chip and chase and play how I want to play. I think the few years before that some people wanted me to play a bit more structured, but that wasn’t really me.”





Marshall’s exit from the Tigers was one of the darkest days in the joint venture’s short history.

The poster boy that led the club to its only premiership in 2005 was out the door after falling out with club management.

“The thing I was frustrated with was that I agreed to a contract here for five years,” Marshall said.

“After that the CEO moved on and the new CEO didn’t want to honour that contract. That was probably the hardest thing to take for me. In saying that, I needed the change. I needed to grow up and get out of here. I feel like I’m in a good place now and happy to be back.

“When it comes to the club, I always still supported the club and it always held a place in my heart. I never ever actually hated the club. It was just some of how I was treated that frustrated me. But I think everything happens for a reason and I had to go through all those changes to find my feet again and find a bit of motivation.”

One of Marshall’s biggest regrets about how he left the club in 2013 was his decision to announce his signing with the Auckland Blues wearing their jersey while still having another month to play with the Tigers.

“I’d probably do a lot of things different,” he said.

“The whole kerfuffle of wearing the Auckland Blues jersey when I left was probably the biggest regret the way that played out. Looking back, I can see why people were so angry about it. I don’t regret going to union, though. It gave me a chance to get away from here. You can get comfortable somewhere and I think that happened the back end of my time here.

“But this is where I’m from. I walk in here and feel like I belong here. I don’t walk here and feel like I’m new. The other day they played a video of the club’s history, and I was in that video.

"This is home.”
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Unread post by happy tiger » Fri 24 Nov, 2017 10:11 pm

Geo. wrote:
Fri 24 Nov, 2017 7:25 pm
O oh Happy...Benji is home..
Marshall: "This is home to me"

Michael Chammas, Chief Reporter, NRL.com

Fri 24th November, 06:30PM
A A
Benji2
BENJI Marshall knows what people think of him.

“They think I’m cocky. They think I’m arrogant,” he told NRL.com on his first day of training back with the Wests Tigers on Thursday.

“They think I’m not good for culture of teams.”

It’s for this reason Marshall orchestrated his return on his own. This has been almost two years in the making. Two years since he picked up the phone and began plotting his homecoming.

Marshall knew it couldn’t be done through a manager - that would send the wrong message. It had to be about what he could do for the Tigers, not the other way around.

“People have a pre-conceived idea of what sort of person I am,” Marshall said.

“Because I play with confidence, people think I’m arrogant. Because I play so out there, people think that’s arrogance. The way I come across with the confidence, people mistake that. The common thing I hear going to new clubs is ‘oh, man I thought you were so different to what you are’. I hear it at every club I go to.

“People are genuinely surprised. That spins me out. The Tigers said this wouldn’t have happened if I didn’t reach out. They didn’t know me. I think they might have judged me before they met me. After meeting them, I think they were a bit shocked as to how I was coming across because of what they thought.”

Marshall called Cleary not long after he joined the club. The Tigers entertained the idea of bringing him across from the Broncos mid-season as a replacement for Mitchell Moses, but Wayne Bennett didn’t want to release him.

The Kiwi veteran didn’t give up. He organised to have a coffee with Cleary while the Broncos were in Sydney during the season.

It’s then he outlined how he could contribute to the change Cleary was implementing. That despite a perception he may have been toxic for team culture, he in fact could provide the very thing the coach wanted from his senior players.





Marshall spoke about leadership and culture. He spoke about the guidance he could provide the young halves and the advice he could pass down.

“Those are my biggest assets. I came up with a plan of where I would fit into the team in terms of those things,” Marshall said.

“But I also made it pretty clear that I don’t just want to be here just for that.”

It’s what the Tigers wanted to hear. They didn’t want a player whose main concern was about coming home to restore his own legacy and build a life after football.

Yes, the Tigers realised the off-field potential his signing would have on the organisation, but it was always about football.

Marshall was given no guarantees. That’s the way he wanted it.

But he did make a guarantee of his own, vowing to do everything he could to convince the coach he was worth a spot in his side.

“I said ‘mate, at the end of the day you’re the coach and I just want to be part of the team,” he said.

“I said ‘mate, at the end of the day you’re the coach and I just want to be part of the team."
“I don’t care where that is. If it’s in the 17 it is, and if it’s not, then I’ll force my way in there somewhere. Ivan was pretty clear in the first meeting. He told me that he’d promised Josh [Reynolds] and Brooksy [Luke Brooks] that they would be the halves to start the season. I have no problems with that. I also have no problems playing reserve grade. I did that in Brisbane and actually enjoyed it. If it happens here, it happens.

“There were probably times in my career when I was here before that I needed to do that and go down to reserve grade to find a bit of confidence. If Ivan feels like I need to be there and don’t deserve to be in the 17 then that’s fine. But I’m going to push him to pick me.”

Bennett did for Marshall what very few before managed to do. He was honest.

He told Marshall what he needed to hear, not what he wanted to hear.
Marshall knows there were times throughout his time at the Tigers when that wasn’t the case.

“For other people, I don’t think there was a lot of honesty back then,” Marshall said.

“I thought I was going better than what I was but no one here was telling me that I wasn’t. Wayne was great for me.

“He encouraged me to throw flick passes and chip and chase and play how I want to play. I think the few years before that some people wanted me to play a bit more structured, but that wasn’t really me.”





Marshall’s exit from the Tigers was one of the darkest days in the joint venture’s short history.

The poster boy that led the club to its only premiership in 2005 was out the door after falling out with club management.

“The thing I was frustrated with was that I agreed to a contract here for five years,” Marshall said.

“After that the CEO moved on and the new CEO didn’t want to honour that contract. That was probably the hardest thing to take for me. In saying that, I needed the change. I needed to grow up and get out of here. I feel like I’m in a good place now and happy to be back.

“When it comes to the club, I always still supported the club and it always held a place in my heart. I never ever actually hated the club. It was just some of how I was treated that frustrated me. But I think everything happens for a reason and I had to go through all those changes to find my feet again and find a bit of motivation.”

One of Marshall’s biggest regrets about how he left the club in 2013 was his decision to announce his signing with the Auckland Blues wearing their jersey while still having another month to play with the Tigers.

“I’d probably do a lot of things different,” he said.

“The whole kerfuffle of wearing the Auckland Blues jersey when I left was probably the biggest regret the way that played out. Looking back, I can see why people were so angry about it. I don’t regret going to union, though. It gave me a chance to get away from here. You can get comfortable somewhere and I think that happened the back end of my time here.

“But this is where I’m from. I walk in here and feel like I belong here. I don’t walk here and feel like I’m new. The other day they played a video of the club’s history, and I was in that video.

"This is home.”
http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2017 ... s_hom.html
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Unread post by Earl » Fri 24 Nov, 2017 10:14 pm

Benji is a champion isn't he.

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