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Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Fri 02 Feb, 2018 2:35 pm
by colmcd
diedpretty wrote:
Fri 19 Jan, 2018 11:53 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Fri 19 Jan, 2018 12:48 pm
Nelson wrote:
Fri 19 Jan, 2018 12:16 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Fri 19 Jan, 2018 10:36 am
I thought we all were agreed first time round that Benji was a 6 , not a 7
He was a 6 then but he's probably a 7 now. His best season in the relatively recent past was in 2015 as halfback for the Dragons when he finished 2nd in the Dally M count.
Yes but he had quality 6's outside him in Widdop and Milford who have good running games and can be creative

Don't think Josh fits the mould of Widdop or Milford , that's the problem

Not saying Josh isn't a good player , just a different player that's all

If you want a better combination of the two combinations Brooks and Marshall would be better than Marshall and Reynolds
I'm hoping Reynolds is allowed to play his running game the way he did a few years ago before Des wanted him as a structured ball playing 5/8. He was always a running 5/8.
Which is interesting as Cleary wants to throw the ball around too. It's why I see Reynolds as more Center then 5/8 because his biggest weakness is his throwing ball playing game. He is tough as nails, a leader, small and runs through gaps but isn't passing the ball enough and because he is small he needs to pass higher to get the ball received. Likewise why I don't like him as Hooker, Hooker needs to get the ball out, that was Robbie's biggest problem, Ball Hog.

Now I love Reynolds. I think we should have signed Reynolds and bagged Graham at 250K (I had that pricepoint for him... Eastwood probably 100K or less).

Good player, lets see how Reynolds fits. Totally agreed though that Marshall and Brooks would be our best attacking pair.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Fri 02 Feb, 2018 7:11 pm
by Hbom
colmcd wrote:
Fri 02 Feb, 2018 2:35 pm
diedpretty wrote:
Fri 19 Jan, 2018 11:53 pm
happy tiger wrote:
Fri 19 Jan, 2018 12:48 pm
Nelson wrote:
Fri 19 Jan, 2018 12:16 pm


He was a 6 then but he's probably a 7 now. His best season in the relatively recent past was in 2015 as halfback for the Dragons when he finished 2nd in the Dally M count.
Yes but he had quality 6's outside him in Widdop and Milford who have good running games and can be creative

Don't think Josh fits the mould of Widdop or Milford , that's the problem

Not saying Josh isn't a good player , just a different player that's all

If you want a better combination of the two combinations Brooks and Marshall would be better than Marshall and Reynolds
I'm hoping Reynolds is allowed to play his running game the way he did a few years ago before Des wanted him as a structured ball playing 5/8. He was always a running 5/8.
Which is interesting as Cleary wants to throw the ball around too. It's why I see Reynolds as more Center then 5/8 because his biggest weakness is his throwing ball playing game. He is tough as nails, a leader, small and runs through gaps but isn't passing the ball enough and because he is small he needs to pass higher to get the ball received. Likewise why I don't like him as Hooker, Hooker needs to get the ball out, that was Robbie's biggest problem, Ball Hog.

Now I love Reynolds. I think we should have signed Reynolds and bagged Graham at 250K (I had that pricepoint for him... Eastwood probably 100K or less).

Good player, lets see how Reynolds fits. Totally agreed though that Marshall and Brooks would be our best attacking pair.
I am so confused. Just me?

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Fri 02 Feb, 2018 7:56 pm
by Needaname
I suggest you guys either wait to see what Reynolds can offer the team in broken play or go back and watch a couple of games, from this year even; the dogs may of had poor attack but it certainly didn’t come as a result of a lack of attack from Reynolds end.
Reynolds flaw is he can’t pass a super long ball. Can throw a cut out but it will never be a torpedo. But stating he is incapable of moving the ball around in attack is just not correct.
See for yourselves. He sets up the bulldogs centres and backrowers with many a good sharp ball. He does this on the run. He just won’t come up with anything from a standing start.
But the last time we had a player do that in a season and create over 20 try assists he was labelled a failure in that position.
That was Benji in 2012 by the way.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 8:40 am
by AJ*
Spartan117 wrote:
Mon 22 Jan, 2018 10:42 am
Benji is a contracted Channel Nine Personality....

Still doesn't hurt..... and

I hope he is going well.
Pretty sure that's no longer the case. He was part of the channel 7 commentary during the World Cup

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:19 am
by Russell
Needaname wrote:
Fri 02 Feb, 2018 7:56 pm
I suggest you guys either wait to see what Reynolds can offer the team in broken play or go back and watch a couple of games, from this year even; the dogs may of had poor attack but it certainly didn’t come as a result of a lack of attack from Reynolds end.
Reynolds flaw is he can’t pass a super long ball. Can throw a cut out but it will never be a torpedo. But stating he is incapable of moving the ball around in attack is just not correct.
See for yourselves. He sets up the bulldogs centres and backrowers with many a good sharp ball. He does this on the run. He just won’t come up with anything from a standing start.
But the last time we had a player do that in a season and create over 20 try assists he was labelled a failure in that position.
That was Benji in 2012 by the way.
I think you are are correct Mate, I don't have that many concerns over Reynolds.

He will be really good as well for Brooks imo.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:29 am
by supercoach
Benji will play the same role he did the Bronks. Be the fall back man for either injuries or poor form. I dont expect to see him in the top side come round one, although early season games tend to be high scoring affairs, so maybe he might be picked as no 14 to create some attack if required

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:31 am
by Masterton
colmcd wrote:
Fri 02 Feb, 2018 2:35 pm
I see Reynolds as more Center then 5/8 because his biggest weakness is his throwing ball playing game. He is tough as nails, a leader, small and runs through gaps but isn't passing the ball enough and because he is small he needs to pass higher to get the ball received.
Ahhh, that's why players like Sterlo & Alf & Ricky were terrible ballplayers. Too small.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 11:26 am
by Sco77y
Masterton wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:31 am
colmcd wrote:
Fri 02 Feb, 2018 2:35 pm
I see Reynolds as more Center then 5/8 because his biggest weakness is his throwing ball playing game. He is tough as nails, a leader, small and runs through gaps but isn't passing the ball enough and because he is small he needs to pass higher to get the ball received.
Ahhh, that's why players like Sterlo & Alf & Ricky were terrible ballplayers. Too small.
Cronk and Thurston are shorter - must be among the worst in the comp then. Anyway, Reynolds is actually a good sized half regardless, I always thought..

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 12:18 pm
by Tacky

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 4:44 pm
by colmcd
Sco77y wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 11:26 am
Masterton wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:31 am
colmcd wrote:
Fri 02 Feb, 2018 2:35 pm
I see Reynolds as more Center then 5/8 because his biggest weakness is his throwing ball playing game. He is tough as nails, a leader, small and runs through gaps but isn't passing the ball enough and because he is small he needs to pass higher to get the ball received.
Ahhh, that's why players like Sterlo & Alf & Ricky were terrible ballplayers. Too small.
Cronk and Thurston are shorter - must be among the worst in the comp then. Anyway, Reynolds is actually a good sized half regardless, I always thought..
My mistake, I always thought Reynolds was a short person like Chris Sandow (where the height mismatch between him and Sutton was an issue at Souths.).
Ok Reynolds is 1.83 and our tallest half. Marshall is 1.82 and Brooks is 1.79 so they should be passing at around the same height. Daane Milne is at 183 and Esan Marsters is at 187. Tui being shorter then the rest at 1.77.
Hoping this means they can all pass the ball easily to each other.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 4:51 pm
by Geo.
Maybe they should set up the Rex Mossop pass the ball comp at training..practice hitting the 3's n 5's for the taller guys..the 7's n 10's for the normal heights and below that for the short asses...

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 5:27 pm
by king sirro
colmcd wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 4:44 pm
Sco77y wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 11:26 am
Masterton wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:31 am
colmcd wrote:
Fri 02 Feb, 2018 2:35 pm
I see Reynolds as more Center then 5/8 because his biggest weakness is his throwing ball playing game. He is tough as nails, a leader, small and runs through gaps but isn't passing the ball enough and because he is small he needs to pass higher to get the ball received.
Ahhh, that's why players like Sterlo & Alf & Ricky were terrible ballplayers. Too small.
Cronk and Thurston are shorter - must be among the worst in the comp then. Anyway, Reynolds is actually a good sized half regardless, I always thought..
My mistake, I always thought Reynolds was a short person like Chris Sandow (where the height mismatch between him and Sutton was an issue at Souths.).
Ok Reynolds is 1.83 and our tallest half. Marshall is 1.82 and Brooks is 1.79 so they should be passing at around the same height. Daane Milne is at 183 and Esan Marsters is at 187. Tui being shorter then the rest at 1.77.
Hoping this means they can all pass the ball easily to each other.
This is just weird analogy Col. IMO height has zero effect on passing unless its under 8's. All in the wrist brother.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 5:35 pm
by cochise
colmcd wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 4:44 pm
Sco77y wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 11:26 am
Masterton wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:31 am
colmcd wrote:
Fri 02 Feb, 2018 2:35 pm
I see Reynolds as more Center then 5/8 because his biggest weakness is his throwing ball playing game. He is tough as nails, a leader, small and runs through gaps but isn't passing the ball enough and because he is small he needs to pass higher to get the ball received.
Ahhh, that's why players like Sterlo & Alf & Ricky were terrible ballplayers. Too small.
Cronk and Thurston are shorter - must be among the worst in the comp then. Anyway, Reynolds is actually a good sized half regardless, I always thought..
My mistake, I always thought Reynolds was a short person like Chris Sandow (where the height mismatch between him and Sutton was an issue at Souths.).
Ok Reynolds is 1.83 and our tallest half. Marshall is 1.82 and Brooks is 1.79 so they should be passing at around the same height. Daane Milne is at 183 and Esan Marsters is at 187. Tui being shorter then the rest at 1.77.
Hoping this means they can all pass the ball easily to each other.
This is one of the weirdest posts I have ever read. I have never heard anyone ever make the point that players of different height have difficulty passing to each other.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 5:36 pm
by cochise
king sirro wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 5:27 pm
colmcd wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 4:44 pm
Sco77y wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 11:26 am
Masterton wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:31 am


Ahhh, that's why players like Sterlo & Alf & Ricky were terrible ballplayers. Too small.
Cronk and Thurston are shorter - must be among the worst in the comp then. Anyway, Reynolds is actually a good sized half regardless, I always thought..
My mistake, I always thought Reynolds was a short person like Chris Sandow (where the height mismatch between him and Sutton was an issue at Souths.).
Ok Reynolds is 1.83 and our tallest half. Marshall is 1.82 and Brooks is 1.79 so they should be passing at around the same height. Daane Milne is at 183 and Esan Marsters is at 187. Tui being shorter then the rest at 1.77.
Hoping this means they can all pass the ball easily to each other.
This is just weird analogy Col. IMO height has zero effect on passing unless its under 8's. All in the wrist brother.
I agree

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 7:15 pm
by Harvey
Tyson Gamble is 189cm. Why did we sign him? If he is going to have a future at the club, we need to get some taller outside backs.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:35 pm
by happy tiger
king sirro wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 5:27 pm
colmcd wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 4:44 pm
Sco77y wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 11:26 am
Masterton wrote:
Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:31 am


Ahhh, that's why players like Sterlo & Alf & Ricky were terrible ballplayers. Too small.
Cronk and Thurston are shorter - must be among the worst in the comp then. Anyway, Reynolds is actually a good sized half regardless, I always thought..
My mistake, I always thought Reynolds was a short person like Chris Sandow (where the height mismatch between him and Sutton was an issue at Souths.).
Ok Reynolds is 1.83 and our tallest half. Marshall is 1.82 and Brooks is 1.79 so they should be passing at around the same height. Daane Milne is at 183 and Esan Marsters is at 187. Tui being shorter then the rest at 1.77.
Hoping this means they can all pass the ball easily to each other.
This is just weird analogy Col. IMO height has zero effect on passing unless its under 8's. All in the wrist brother.
Yep , too right KS

Having strong wrists and soft hands is the key , much like a spin bowler

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 9:41 pm
by Mighty Tiger
My take is Benji is very serious about his return and doesn’t want to be known for what happened before. I suspect he is a man on a mission and wouldn’t surprise me if he is named round 1 in the squad.

Reynolds will be a great buy, he won’t stiffle the attack but allow Brooks/Benji to expand. He doesn’t need to do long balls he needs to find his hole runners on the edge or inside. With potential of Tui, Aloia & Mahe outside him gaps will open.

Re: BENJI IMPRESSES TIGERS

Posted: Mon 05 Feb, 2018 11:09 pm
by tigerap
Benji has to understand why he is here....I’m concerned he hasn’t got it.

Benji is not here to take someone’s starting spot, sorry Benj #6 or #7 are slatted for someone else....Benji is here to mentor first and foremost, secondly here is here for backup, this is it for Benji, so why would the club invest in a starting spot for him over Reynolds and Brooks( who must have a breakout year)...sorry Benj don’t kidyourself or the fans and your teammates understand why you are here