Team-first attitude driving Packer

User avatar
willow
Member
Member
Posts: 30088
Joined: Fri 10 Jul, 2009 9:28 pm
Location: Perth

Team-first attitude driving Packer

Post by willow » Fri 19 Jan, 2018 9:28 pm

Courtesy of the official Wests Tigers website:

Team-first attitude driving Packer
Author Wests Tigers
Fri 19 Jan 2018, 10:47 AM

We sat down with new recruit Russell Packer — as with all players — and asked him about the year that was, his return to Test football and the year that lies ahead.

Specifically, we asked him about teamwork and leadership, with Ivan Cleary speaking previously about the 28-year-old and what he brings on and off the field as a leader.

Packer’s words are below — unedited and unchanged.

“I’m very excited to be here and feel like we’ve got a mix in the squad. We’ve got a lot of experience and a lot of hungry young dudes and a lot of hungry old guys too so hopefully we push each other to be better and those performances show through when we play. I’m happy to be here and be part of something that is going to build in to something that is consistently good — that is the plan and what we’re working towards.

You just gotta lead by example on and off the field. I don’t think that many people think they want to lead, they just either are or they aren’t. I just try and do everything I can to go the hardest I can and that’s it — just keep putting in that effort and people around you will do the same and keep pushing each other to be better. That’s what leadership is — pushing yourself to be better and pushing others around you. If they believe in what you’re up to, they’ll follow you; if they don’t, they won’t. It’s as simple as that.

Ivan mentions it a lot that there’s really good competition in the team and that’s good. You need people pushing each other to be better, and that’s what a competitive squad does. If everyone is fit and strong, our levels will all be raised by each other’s and that’s pretty much what you want to be a part of.

When everyone is pushing each other physically and doing football stuff better too, it’s a great environment to be in because you really grow. I’ve still got a bit to do to catch up because of the World Cup break, but I’ll just go as hard as I can. I’m really excited to be around this group of boys.

There’s a lot of movement, so we’re all a part of the rebuild. I guess every squad in the NRL is a new squad regardless of how long people have been involved but probably more so this year with the recruits that have come in here, myself included. I think it’s a good opportunity for us to build something together and that’s the exciting thing. We want to cultivate that good culture here and put in the hard work at training, work hard for each other when we play and let the results fall how they will. I want to win. I want to win more than I lose, but the key is to be consistently good and that will happen.

It’s a new opportunity for me, so first and foremost, I’ve got to build up relationships with all the boys here and earn their trust. I’m just looking to do my thing when I play — put in as much effort as I can and I think everyone will be able to see how hard I’m trying.

That’s all I can ask for myself, not just in footy but in everything across the board.

Hopefully all of our fans can see a team that’s trying their best in every opportunity that they get and works hard for each other no matter the circumstances. I think they’ll see individuals that are willing to push themselves for the cause of the team and I think that blueprint will translate in to results. We want to be a team that plays like a team and plays for each other, and we’ve got an opportunity to make that happen.”


clontarfkid
Forum Suppoter
Forum Suppoter
Posts: 765
Joined: Mon 13 Jul, 2009 3:47 pm

Post by clontarfkid » Fri 19 Jan, 2018 9:51 pm

Impressive indeed.
Compare that to his predecessor...our former captain..who couldnt do much better than "it is what it is"...

User avatar
Geo.
Forum Suppoter
Forum Suppoter
Posts: 25448
Joined: Fri 10 Jul, 2009 10:55 pm
Location: Sandy Point NSW..

Post by Geo. » Fri 19 Jan, 2018 10:03 pm

750k a year helps too...
Ivan's Laws

1. You are either on the Bus or you are off..
2. The Star of the Team is the Team
3. Be the player your teammates want to play with..
Tiger Watto wrote:
Fri 03 Nov, 2017 8:07 am
Geo nailed it...

User avatar
old man tiger
Forum Suppoter
Forum Suppoter
Posts: 822
Joined: Tue 14 Jul, 2009 10:37 am

Post by old man tiger » Fri 19 Jan, 2018 10:36 pm

Geo. wrote:
Fri 19 Jan, 2018 10:03 pm
750k a year helps too...
It does, but it's nice to see people like to win more than they lose. Let's face it, this hasn't been our club's strong point.

User avatar
Tacky
Member
Member
Posts: 1731
Joined: Sun 26 Mar, 2017 8:11 pm

Post by Tacky » Fri 19 Jan, 2018 11:13 pm

I didn't think Packer was smarter than Woods but, there you go, the evidence is staring me right in the face. Even more excited for next season now.
WTF's self proclaimed #1 anarchist. President of the Michael Chee-Kam fan club


AnnandaleTiger
Member
Member
Posts: 261
Joined: Fri 31 Mar, 2017 9:49 am

Post by AnnandaleTiger » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 12:59 pm

Packer has a uni degree, talks clearly with well thought out sentences and seems to be very aware of how his messages will be perceived by media and fans.

Woods didn’t have many (any) of these qualities.

User avatar
Tiger Steve
Member
Member
Posts: 360
Joined: Wed 29 Mar, 2017 5:30 pm
Location: Chatswood West

Post by Tiger Steve » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 1:44 pm

AnnandaleTiger wrote:
Sat 20 Jan, 2018 12:59 pm
Packer has a uni degree, talks clearly with well thought out sentences and seems to be very aware of how his messages will be perceived by media and fans.

Woods didn’t have many (any) of these qualities.
I would not be at all surprised if Packer is named captain. He ticks a lot of boxes imo

magpiecol
Member
Member
Posts: 2794
Joined: Mon 13 Jul, 2009 3:02 pm

Post by magpiecol » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 2:15 pm

AnnandaleTiger wrote:
Sat 20 Jan, 2018 12:59 pm
Packer has a uni degree, talks clearly with well thought out sentences and seems to be very aware of how his messages will be perceived by media and fans.

Woods didn’t have many (any) of these qualities.
And he hated his barber.

clontarfkid
Forum Suppoter
Forum Suppoter
Posts: 765
Joined: Mon 13 Jul, 2009 3:47 pm

Post by clontarfkid » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 4:06 pm

Well..theres a coupla things I didn't know...
Firstly,Packer is quite articulate...regardless of how much hes paid.
Secondly,...were paying him $750k....really? know they were desperate times for WT after the "not so big 3" departed,,but.....?Having said that,he is a current Kiwi international(tho on their disgraceful RLWC performance that doesn't mean too much).Hurts me to say it,but woods' minutes played and offloads make him a considerably more valuable player.
Lastly,it wld be a great redemption story to make Packer captain,..but personally I'm just not ready for a recently incarcerated person to be the face of WT regardless of his achievements.
Appreciate not everyone concurs...

Russell
Member
Member
Posts: 3441
Joined: Sat 10 Dec, 2011 6:46 pm

Post by Russell » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 4:23 pm

clontarfkid wrote:
Sat 20 Jan, 2018 4:06 pm
Well..theres a coupla things I didn't know...
Firstly,Packer is quite articulate...regardless of how much hes paid.
Secondly,...were paying him $750k....really? know they were desperate times for WT after the "not so big 3" departed,,but.....?Having said that,he is a current Kiwi international(tho on their disgraceful RLWC performance that doesn't mean too much).Hurts me to say it,but woods' minutes played and offloads make him a considerably more valuable player.
Lastly,it wld be a great redemption story to make Packer captain,..but personally I'm just not ready for a recently incarcerated person to be the face of WT regardless of his achievements.
Appreciate not everyone concurs...
People keep saying 750 - last credible figure I heard was 670.

Obviously, for some once guilty - always guilty.

gallagher
Member
Member
Posts: 4197
Joined: Mon 13 Jul, 2009 1:18 pm

Post by gallagher » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 4:24 pm

AnnandaleTiger wrote:
Sat 20 Jan, 2018 12:59 pm
Packer has a uni degree, talks clearly with well thought out sentences and seems to be very aware of how his messages will be perceived by media and fans.

Woods didn’t have many (any) of these qualities.
But he's a better player. Should never have been captain though.

Im looking forward to see how Packer goes, i love loose cannons in the front row.

User avatar
innsaneink
Forum Suppoter
Forum Suppoter
Posts: 25575
Joined: Fri 10 Jul, 2009 9:49 pm
Location: ...ahead of you....

Post by innsaneink » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 5:28 pm

gallagher wrote:
Sat 20 Jan, 2018 4:24 pm
AnnandaleTiger wrote:
Sat 20 Jan, 2018 12:59 pm
Packer has a uni degree, talks clearly with well thought out sentences and seems to be very aware of how his messages will be perceived by media and fans.

Woods didn’t have many (any) of these qualities.
But he's a better player. Should never have been captain though.

Im looking forward to see how Packer goes, i love loose cannons in the front row.
With the ball...defensively he was average.
We have big minutes and meters to cover tho with his absence

User avatar
beachtiger
Forum Suppoter
Forum Suppoter
Posts: 231
Joined: Mon 13 Jul, 2009 9:12 am
Location: Sunshine Coast

Post by beachtiger » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 8:04 pm

I don’t think comparing Packer to Woods is a fair comparison as he wasn’t brought in to replace him. If we are going to compare any player to Woods it should be Matulino as he is the player that will replace Woods.

If we are going to look at comparisons then we should look at front row as a whole, Woods/seumanufangi vs Matulino/Packer, in my opinion as a pairing we have upgraded.

Needaname
Member
Member
Posts: 539
Joined: Sun 24 Apr, 2016 1:02 pm

Post by Needaname » Sat 20 Jan, 2018 11:52 pm

Does it really matter how much we paid for our front row?
Does it really matter how much we paid for anyone?
If our club / coaching staff are happy with the squad put together and we manage to be competitive what's it matter what some individuals are costing.
It's a team sport after all and we've managed to put together a pretty decent squad.
Attitude costs less than talent but I'm my opinion is more valuable.

User avatar
Tiger Come Lately
Forum Suppoter
Forum Suppoter
Posts: 1726
Joined: Mon 29 Aug, 2016 8:52 am

Post by Tiger Come Lately » Sun 21 Jan, 2018 9:26 am

I hope he is good for our team. Speaks well.

User avatar
Harvey
Member
Member
Posts: 2757
Joined: Mon 22 Jun, 2015 10:01 pm
Location: Leumeah

Post by Harvey » Sun 21 Jan, 2018 10:03 am

I think Twal is more like Woods. Big motor, big minutes, big stats. Neither is dynamic or explosive, Twal would miss less tackles.

clontarfkid
Forum Suppoter
Forum Suppoter
Posts: 765
Joined: Mon 13 Jul, 2009 3:47 pm

Post by clontarfkid » Sun 21 Jan, 2018 10:09 am

Does price matter...well,yes and no.It creates expectations.
Performance is always the sole judgement criterion,but ........Ill be expecting a lot more from expensive players like say Reynolds on $750k than Benji on $200k...and for that reason Ill be very disappointed if Reynolds fails to fire.
Benji at that price is a speculative gamble like Idris last year.
Ditto to Packer...whatever weve paid him(and its a lot ), I expect outperformance vs Ava for example...and same applies for Matalino and to a lesser extent Brooks and McQueen
And BTW,Ava was an ok front rower who ran it up hard but was defensively vulnerable ...he started before Grant who we kept

User avatar
GNR4LIFE
Member
Member
Posts: 19357
Joined: Mon 28 Feb, 2011 5:57 pm

Post by GNR4LIFE » Sun 21 Jan, 2018 1:00 pm

clontarfkid wrote:
Sun 21 Jan, 2018 10:09 am
Does price matter...well,yes and no.It creates expectations.
Performance is always the sole judgement criterion,but ........Ill be expecting a lot more from expensive players like say Reynolds on $750k than Benji on $200k...and for that reason Ill be very disappointed if Reynolds fails to fire.
Benji at that price is a speculative gamble like Idris last year.
Ditto to Packer...whatever weve paid him(and its a lot ), I expect outperformance vs Ava for example...and same applies for Matalino and to a lesser extent Brooks and McQueen
And BTW,Ava was an ok front rower who ran it up hard but was defensively vulnerable ...he started before Grant who we kept
Packerlino are leaps and bounds above Ava. You could argue neither are as good as Woods, but as a combination they are superior to Woods and Ava. I think they will be 2 of our best this year.

Post Reply
cron